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In article <4f0452d7$0$2523$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


> On 03/01/2012 22:38, Chris Newman wrote:

> > Using the "Filer" app on this Orange phone I can see 4 folders/directories
> > containing bits as follows:-
> > Android
> > 	Data
> [etc]

> Normal. Some apps use SD instead of internal storage - especially things 
> like Google's Navigate which may download/unpack a fair amount of data 
> for the spoken navigation messages.

Ta. That clears that up
> > LOST.DIR   seems to be empty

> Normal. This is created by the automatic integrity check on "mounting" 
> the SD card (at boot, or after disconnecting from the computer), because 
> we all know how well Microsoft can be trusted to manage it's own disc 
> format without screwing up...

> If there's a disc error, you (usually) won't be notified, however files, 
> bits of files, or anything recovered will be placed in LOST.DIR.

Ditto
> > z7logs     9 log files   eg  270.log.2.Lck 95.9kb 03/02/2012

> No idea. <looks>

> Looks like you have bundled software (email, social networking, etc) by 
> Seven - www.seven.com - which leaves logfiles around.

is this something Orange buys in for their phones?

> > I presume I'm just looking at the stuff on the SD card.

> Correct.

That's OK then


> > (or has the filer not differentiated?).

> Without putting the phone into debug mode and using adb, you *cannot* 
> access the internal disc. There's little there you could do anyway.

I'll leave that well alone then.

> > I suppose, if I run out of space I could save all the stuff on the SD to my
> > computer, put in an SD card of greater capacity, format it in the phone&
> > then transfer my files back.

> ?

> Firstly, why format? SD cards usually come pre-formatted. 

Didn't know whether there were different formats around for SD cards. (please
excuse my ignorance.) Are they Fat 32?


> In order not to start the phone without its data files, here's how I 
> went 2Gb->4, and later 4->8.

> I put the new microSD into my computer (via SD adaptor), and connected 
> the phone as a USB device. I drag-dropped all the files from phone to 
> new SD. Phone was disconnected and turned off. Then the cards swapped. 
> And the phone turned back on.
> My stock MP3 player/WinAMP playlist was lost, however everything else 
> seemed okay.

That seems reasonable.


> > I tried to look for that in Settings but can't even find a way to stop the
> > mail downloading automatically when I switch the phone on.

> My mistake - I was thinking of my old Nokia. The *stock* email client 
> will download when it can, but also it will leave messages on the server.
> There's an option (Manage accounts -> [account] -> Other Settings) to 
> delete manually deleted messages from the server. Useful for handling spam.

Can't find that here. I've searched through all the menus. It looks as though
I am accessing my mail provider (gmail in this case) through the Orange app
that came pre-installed on the machine. In the idiots guide it says I can
change the incoming & outgoing servere settings. I remember doing that when I
set the ccount up but that option no longer appears on any of the menus so I
can't check or modify those it would seem. The whole app seems pretty klunky.
 As I said before, I think I will scrap that, as it seems to be an extra you
have to pay for, & just access my Google account on the net. I seldom use it
on the phone anyway, the bulk being done on the desktop machine.
I had a look at the Seven web pages & non of the apps have the same icons as
my phone.

> > That's the orange mail app.

> ?!? Not the stock mail app? I've not seen an Orange custom job (despite 
> being on Orange!).
> [if this app is a Seven app, then this could explain the 7z... log file]


> > When the free trial runs out

> WTF is with the free trials? Free trial for something that duplicates 
> basic Android functionality?

> Does the San Fran II even *have* the stock email software inside?

Interestingly enough!!!! there is the email app icon pre-installed so it
appears on the home page (that's the Orange one I think) but amongst the apps
stored on the apps screen there is the Orange app I've just mentioned & anapp
called Google mail which, when accessed asks you to create a Google account
or sign in if you have one. Maybe I should be exploring this. Confused???
I'll say!!
> > I shall just use one of my gmail accounts to access via the web.

> ...it ought to have the GMail app as well, although I find the UI so 
> horrible I try to avoid using it.

Oh! perhaps I won't bother then....

Many thanks for you thoughts,

-- 
Chris Newman

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  Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-24 06:31 +0100
    Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-24 17:15 +0000
      Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-24 20:53 +0100
        Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-26 16:02 +0000
          Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-27 01:32 +0100
            Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-31 00:35 +0000
              Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-31 05:45 +0100
                Re: Smartphone druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-12-31 11:01 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-31 18:01 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-01 06:44 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 21:20 +0000
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                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-06 14:44 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 21:38 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 14:23 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-07 14:57 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-08 17:34 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-09 20:02 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-10 17:40 +0000
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                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-12 16:11 +0000
      Re: Smartphone Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-30 21:08 +0000
        Re: Smartphone "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-12-31 00:14 +0100
        Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-31 00:56 +0000
          Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-31 06:48 +0100
        Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-31 18:01 +0000
          Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-06 08:07 +0100
            Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 12:02 +0000
              Re: Smartphone Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-08 14:16 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 16:12 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-08 16:59 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-08 18:19 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 18:00 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-08 18:17 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-08 17:39 +0100
            Re: Smartphone Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 20:13 +0000
              Re: Smartphone druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 21:22 +0000
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