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Re: Smartphone

From Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject Re: Smartphone
Date 2012-01-08 16:12 +0000
Organization timil.com
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In article <524e5dff0asee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
   Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:

[snip Android]

> As a matter of curiosity, what is all this memory actually
> used for?

> Is it something like windows which seems to run faster if
> there is more RAM, even if there is no apparent reason for
> that?

Not so much. It's that some applications and bits of others are running
all the time and therefore need to be in Active Memory (AM). When this
goes below about 15MB the phone reports low memory and some functions -
like downloading new apps and email - stop working. Though some apps can
be stored on the microSD card instead, this is not a total solution when
AM on this hTC Desire starts out at 'only' 150MB . If I was to install
all the upgrades to the system apps which have to be in AM (Maps,
facebook, Twitter, Market, and flash player) alongside all the debris
left by apps moved to SD, I would have a constant memory problem and not
of the senior variety I am more used to.

Flash can go **** itself - its mostly used by adverts - so I don't
upgrade that. This save a huge chunk of my phone's memory and my life:
some readers will know how often the Market wants to update Flash.

> I take it that SD card memory is more akin to the hard
> drive? I have never rellay been sure what that id for
> either; I have a couple of phones that came with SD cards,
> but there is so much main memory free that they seem
> pointless to me.

By the time you have taken a few hundred photos and videos and have
downloaded your music collection, you may wish it had a much bigger
microSD card than the 4GB here. I have transferred only a handful of mp3
music  albums and have only 1.61GB left.

The only partial cure to the memory low problem I have discovered seems
to be to uninstall and reinstall every app. 

As a consequence, I am not impressed by Android's memory management, nor
the bloat of its apps. I didn't know Android would be that tedious but
still prefer it to the iPhone, as does a friend who has both: he loves
his Desire and hates his company iPhone.

T

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Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-23 23:32 +0000
  Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-24 06:31 +0100
    Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-24 17:15 +0000
      Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-24 20:53 +0100
        Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-26 16:02 +0000
          Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-27 01:32 +0100
            Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-31 00:35 +0000
              Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-31 05:45 +0100
                Re: Smartphone druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-12-31 11:01 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-31 18:01 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-01 06:44 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 21:20 +0000
                Re: Smartphone cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-01-04 09:44 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-06 14:44 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 21:38 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 14:23 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-07 14:57 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-08 17:34 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-09 20:02 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-10 17:40 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-12 16:23 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-12 16:11 +0000
      Re: Smartphone Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-30 21:08 +0000
        Re: Smartphone "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-12-31 00:14 +0100
        Re: Smartphone Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-31 00:56 +0000
          Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-31 06:48 +0100
        Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-31 18:01 +0000
          Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-06 08:07 +0100
            Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 12:02 +0000
              Re: Smartphone Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-08 14:16 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 16:12 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-08 16:59 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-08 18:19 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 18:00 +0000
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-08 18:17 +0100
                Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-08 17:39 +0100
            Re: Smartphone Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 20:13 +0000
              Re: Smartphone druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 21:22 +0000
            Re: Smartphone Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-10 20:17 +0100

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