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Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott is a Liar !!!

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On 7/6/24 10:17 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 7/6/2024 7:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 7/6/24 7:54 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>
>>> (a) You determine that you need groceries
>>> (b) You report this need
>>> (c) then you go to the store to buy them
>>>
>>> (a) HHH determines that it needs to abort DDD
>>> (b) HHH reports this this need (as text before the action)
>>> (c) then HHH aborts DDD
>>>
>>
>> And I, being willful, am not FORCED to do that sequence. 
> 
> *Sure you are. This cannot work*
>  >> (c) then you go to the store to buy them
>  >> (b) You report this need
>  >> (a) You determine that you need groceries
> 
> 

Sure I can, I can decide to go to the store just because I feel like it.

While there, I can remember things I might have needed.

When I get home, I might notice some things I need to remember for next 
time I go to the store.


None of this matter though, as what we were talking about is that the 
programm HHH doesn't have any choices, it just runs through the 
instructions of the code to compute the answer it is programmed to do.

Yes, in one sense the term "decider" is a bit of a misnomer if you try 
to think about it anthropomorphically. The program doesn't "think" about 
what it is doing and "weigh" the evidence to make a decision. All that 
work was done by the programmer who made the program. The program is 
just an automaton doing exactly as it was programmed, Maybe we can think 
of it doing some "artificial thought" (artificial as it isn't really 
thought, just a mechinized action that sort of mimics it)

They are called deciders, because, if they work right, we can feed in 
inputs and they will spit out the decision of whether that input meets 
the programmed condition. Of course, we need to be sure the decider was 
programmed correctly to trust it.

Or, just as humans can make a wrong decision if our logic or inputs are 
good enough, the programatic decider can make wrong decisions if theur 
programming is wrong.

And, it turns out, there are tasks that just can not be correctly 
programmed to handle all possible inputs, like halting.

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                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-04 15:18 -0500
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                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 09:05 -0500
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                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 10:54 -0500
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                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-06 11:09 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 08:01 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott who doesn't under stand Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 10:28 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-06 17:00 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 10:03 -0500
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                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-06 17:18 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 10:10 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 11:24 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-06 15:26 +0000
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 11:28 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 13:23 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-06 17:29 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 11:30 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 13:25 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-06 20:55 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 14:14 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 15:49 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 16:27 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 16:02 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 17:06 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 16:08 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 17:31 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 16:40 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 17:51 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 16:55 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 18:16 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 17:20 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 18:23 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 17:44 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 18:49 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 18:09 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 19:21 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 18:28 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 19:30 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 18:54 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 20:20 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 19:26 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 20:50 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar! olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 19:58 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 21:27 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar !!! olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 20:31 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar !!! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 21:42 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar !!! olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 20:49 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Olcott is a Liar !!! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 22:09 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar !!! olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 21:17 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott is a Liar !!! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 22:30 -0400
                Richard is a Liar olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 21:44 -0500
                Re: Richard is a Liar Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 23:07 -0400
                Re: Richard is a Liar olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 22:36 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-07 07:13 -0400
                Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 08:11 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-07 13:15 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 08:37 -0500
                Re: Olcott IS a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-07 13:28 -0400
                Re: Richard is a Liar Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-08 10:48 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-07 10:19 +0000
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 08:58 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Olcott is a LIAR. Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-07 13:42 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-08 10:34 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-07 08:41 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 08:46 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-07 13:28 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-08 15:08 +0000
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 10:56 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 10:24 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-08 15:50 +0000
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott lies Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-08 19:26 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 11:07 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-08 18:16 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 12:36 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-09 09:14 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 09:14 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-09 22:51 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-10 10:18 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-10 08:37 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-10 16:11 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-10 09:17 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-10 16:46 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-10 18:35 +0000
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-10 18:27 +0000
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-11 09:56 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-11 09:40 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-12 10:49 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-12 08:07 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-13 10:48 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-13 07:07 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-13 09:15 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-13 13:20 +0000
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-14 10:43 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-14 09:15 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-15 10:15 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-15 07:55 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-13 07:15 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-13 14:28 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-13 14:38 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Petr Olcott --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-13 09:15 -0400
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                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-11 09:50 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-11 09:16 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-11 22:08 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-12 10:55 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-12 08:07 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-13 10:46 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-13 06:57 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-13 09:15 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-14 10:56 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-14 09:26 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-15 10:19 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-15 07:59 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-09 10:56 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 09:06 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-09 22:51 -0400
                a complete emulation of this input could be done --- Liar olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 22:18 -0500
                Re: a complete emulation of this input could be done --- Liar Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-10 07:24 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 10:04 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-08 18:04 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott found lying. Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-08 19:26 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-08 16:25 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-05 10:50 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-05 10:02 +0000
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 07:22 -0500
      Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-05 09:49 +0000
        Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 07:20 -0500
          Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-05 12:26 +0000
            Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 07:43 -0500
              Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-05 16:02 +0200
              Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-05 10:56 -0400
              Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-06 09:33 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 07:54 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-06 10:28 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-07 10:29 +0300
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 08:52 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-07 13:42 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-08 11:01 +0300
          Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-05 14:29 +0200
            Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 08:04 -0500
              Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-05 16:10 +0200
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 09:13 -0500
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-05 11:02 -0400
                Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-05 17:59 +0200
              Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-05 10:59 -0400
          Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-05 10:52 -0400
  Re: Liar detector: Peter OLCOTT YES! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-03 19:18 -0400
    Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-03 19:36 -0500
      Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-03 21:12 -0400
        Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-03 20:30 -0500
          Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-03 21:53 -0400
            Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this Barb Knox <Barb@sig.below> - 2024-07-09 18:09 +1200
              Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-09 09:48 +0300
                Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 09:31 -0500
                Re: Peter Olcott seems to continue to blatantly lie Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-09 22:51 -0400
                Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-10 10:06 +0300
                Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-10 08:35 -0500
                Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-10 18:25 +0000
                Re: Peter Olcott seems to continue to blatantly lie Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-10 20:01 -0400
                Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-11 10:01 +0300
              Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-07-09 10:58 +0200
              Re: Peter Olcott seems to continue to blatantly lie Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-09 07:29 -0400
              Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-07-09 13:29 +0100
                Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- A clearer explanation for Ben olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 09:03 -0500
              Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 08:27 -0500
  Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-04 09:02 +0300

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