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Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 7/2/2015 12:36 PM, J0HNS0N wrote:

>> No one makes anyone buy an Android phone. Perhaps you guys would be
>> happier with an Apple product where getting access to the file system
>> is very difficult. And as I recall from my Apple days they never asked
>> my permission for anything. I'm guessing they just took it.
>
>I think I'd like the iPhone, but I can get all the phone service I need 
>with Android and Tracfone on a cheap phone and $8/month.

Good for you. It's nice to have a choice isn't it.

>Some people I 
>know with iPhones are paying more than ten times that much, albeit for 
>better phones and services that I don't need.

iPhones have nothing to do with it.

The service cost per line is exactly the same for my wife's iPhone as
it is for my Android phone.

My *guess* would be that the super cheap plans don't offer the iPhone
because those who go for that type of service likely couldn't or don't
want to afford an iPhone.

>The business model of some modern American Internet companies, including 
>Google, is to provide services to users for free but collect data from 
>those users and sell it to undisclosed buyers for whatever purpose they 
>want.

If the service if free you're likely the product. 

Most people including me knew that when we signed up.

But I can honestly say that I have never gotten any spam from anybody
that I can trace back to Google in the many years I've been using
them. 

That's more than I can say for many businesses I have to pay to use
(car dealerships, hotels, theme parks etc). For those I am very happy
to have Gmail's exceptional filter services to kill their spam.

>However, if you think it's appropriate for Google, Apple, and Microsoft 
>to do whatever they want, including selling undisclosed parts of our 
>information to undisclosed buyers for undisclosed purposes, then surely 
>it must also be appropriate for us to exercise the same freedom in how 
>we use their services.  That includes using our own security software, 
>like firewalls, to stymie their intrusions.

Amen. Knock yourself out brother!!  And good luck to you. 

BTW do you use a charge card. Did you know they do the same thing?

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Permissions  F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-01 23:22 +1000
  Re: Permissions J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-01 15:08 -0700
  Re: Permissions Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 16:03 -0400
    Re: Permissions J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-02 15:08 -0700
      Re: Permissions Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 20:26 -0400
        Re: Permissions F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-03 11:02 +1000
          Re: Permissions J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-02 23:03 -0700
        Re: Permissions The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 18:39 -0700
        Re: Permissions J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-02 23:03 -0700
        Re: Permissions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-03 19:08 +0000
  Re: Permissions F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-03 11:04 +1000

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