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Re: Space and spacetime

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Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> W dniu 21.06.2024 o 16:14, gharnagel pisze:
> >
> > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >
> > > A day is a day, Harrie.
> > 
> > No, it's not.  Wozzie deleted where I explained that

> Put your explaination straight into your
> dumb, fanatic ass, where it belongs.

An autistic "information engineer" who can't understand
metaphor gets really asinine when his fuzzy-thinking is
questioned.  It figures.

> If I said "3 days ago" you wouldn't
> ask what I meant, would you?

Now the autistic ass dissembles, equating himself with
"an observer moving across the solar system at c/2."

Why does he think that HE is the one flying at c/2?

> You're not THAT stupid, are you?

Apparently, Wozzie IS that stupid :-))

> You're just pretending stupider than
> you are to dodge the question. Well,
> a hint for you: how was "second"
> defined in the  physics of your
> idiot guru? I mean THAT day.

The real idiot here is Wozzie-fool who thinks his
poorly thought-out riddles have any real meaning.
He just tries to muddy the waters of rational
thinking.  His ego is much bigger than his whole brain.

Autistic Wozzie-fool now descends into soapy mouthwash
territory.  Deleted.

> > > Prove that something is valid when it is valid?
> > 
> > Of course.  How does one KNOW that it's valid 
>
> I don't have to know if it's valid to know
> that it is valid if/when it is valid.
> "It is valid in its apply range" is
> a simple truism, Harrie.

Wozzie is dead wrong.  "How do we know what we know"
is a very serious field of study.

https://iep.utm.edu/epistemo/

"we must determine the nature of knowledge; that is, what
does it mean to say that someone knows, or fails to know,
something? This is a matter of understanding what knowledge
is, and how to distinguish between cases in which someone
knows something and cases in which someone does not know
something. While there is some general agreement about some
aspects of this issue, we shall see that this question is
much more difficult than one might imagine."

> You're an idiot so you don't realize that.

Only an autistic "information engineer" wouldn't question
what he thinks he knows.

> > > > Wozzie lies ALL of the time.  And he just did it again.
> > >
> > > Oh, did I? You DO lie 100% of time, Harrie?
> > 
> > See?  Wozzie did it again!  He said I lied MOST of the time

> I said you don't lie 100% of time and you called me a liar...

Of course.  Wozzie is a congenital liar.

>  >> One that rejects an obvious lie of a religious
> > > maniac insisting that The Nature itself is
> > > speaking to him and his idiot gurus.
> > 
> > Wozzie appears to be oblivious to finer sensibilities.  I speak
> > metaphorically

> And I speak directly - you lie like a fanatic
> idiot you are.

Wozzie is projecting again, i.e., lying :-))

> > > > > That's the specialization of dealing
> > > > > with information and its various constructs.
> > > > > No way I'm an invincible expert, of course...
> > > > > we could discuss, if you weren't such an
> > > > > arrogant not-even-layman idiot.
> > > >
> > > > Nice example of his prejudice again :-))
> > >
> > > Just some sad truth, Harrie.
> > 
> > I'm afraid Wozzie is resistant to truth.  Part of his problem
> > when dealing with physics questions is that he appears to be
> > mathematically incompetent.

> Speaking of mathematics - it's always good to remind
> that your bunch of idiots had to announce its oldest
> part false, as it didn't want to fit the madness
> of your insane guru.

Wozzie proves once again that he is mathematically incompetent.
After all, he claimed that the Lorentz transform was correct then
denied what it derived mathematically.

> > > If LT were designed for an ether theory
> > > the "obvious" c+v=c interpretation of The
> > > Shit's worshippers can't be that obvios,
> > > don't you think, Harrie, poor halfbrain?
> > 
> > Wozzie can't help himself from scatology and denigration.
> > His parents never brought him up right, never washed his mouth
> > out with soap when he behaved rudely.
> > 
> > Anyway, his little diatribe makes no sense.  He seems to believe
> > that "c+v=c" is an "interpretation" rather than a mathematical
> > derivation. 

> Tell me, poor halfbrain, was the RELATIVISTIC
> formula of velocity adding a part of Lorentz's
> ETHER theory?
> Yes or no?

Autistic Wozzie-fool seems to think that something that's derived
from a set of equations is "adding to it."

But let's get to the point here:  the equations of LET are the
Lorentz transformation equations, which are valid in SR, also.
Wozzie seems conflicted about that.  He decries them when used
by Einstein but embraces them when enfolded by an ether.

>   Refer back to the quote by Heinlein.

Yup.  He also said that deriving something was just finding out
what you already knew.  Meaning, of course, that it was all there
in the original equations, implied, which is the case with relativistic
velocity addition.  As anyone would know if he weren't mathematically
incompetent.

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