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Re: Space and spacetime

From hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Space and spacetime
Date 2024-06-22 18:47 +0000
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Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> W dniu 22.06.2024 o 15:54, gharnagel pisze:
> >
> > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >
> > > You're pretending even stupider
> > > than you are to dodge.
> > 
>> No matter how many times Wozzie tells lies, i doesn't
> > make them true.  His parents must be chagrinned at
> > his abysmal behavior.
>
> And why won't you stop your iditic dodging
> and answer what are the prediction of the moronic
> physics of your moronic guru for my example?

Wozzie "question" was "What does an observer going at
c/2 through the solar system measure as the length of
a day?"

Since the observer is not on earth, a "day" is not well
defined.  I asked him if it was a day on earth, Mars,
Jupiter, what?  Also, since velocity is relative, what is
the c/s with respect to?  Autistic Wozzie-fool has refused
to answer these pertinent questions, proving his dishonesty
by asking stupid and irrelevant questions in return:

> > > You must define "clearly and honestly". And "define".
> > > And "must".
> > 
> > Such terms are human terms, and those that are fully human
> > understand them implicitly.  Terms like "speed" and "time"
>
> are the terms of physicists, i.e. Gods.
> I'm getting it.

??  Wozzie makes no sense, as usual.

Then he pivots to a different question:

> > > > > So, according to you and your idiot gurus -
> > > > > in LET every observer, stationary in ether or not -
> > > > > would observe light moving at speed c. Right?
> > > >
> > > > What's the matter, mathematically-incompetent Wozzie,
> > > > can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
> > > > for yourself?

And dishonest Wozzie projects his incompetence on others:

And then he pivots to a third question:

"Is the RELATIVISTIC formula of velocity adding a part of
Lorentz's ETHER theory?  Yes or no"

So it's become quite confusing just which question Wozzie
wants answered.

> > > The matter is that mathematically-incompetent Harrie
> > > can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
> > > for me.
> > 
> > I offered to derive the LTE for Wozzie,
>
> But can't deal with a set of assumptions
> different than The Shit of your idiot guru.
> It's not very complicated, but - well -
> you're an idiot.

Wozzie-liar is projecting again.

> > > A lie, of course. First - Lorentz invented his
> > > equations for his ether theory,  then - your
> > > idiot guru came with his absurd postulates.
> > 
> > So the "absurd" postulates result in the LTE  exactly as
> > Lorentz invented them out of whole cloth, so how could they
> > possibly be absurd
>
> Simply.

Yes, Wozzie is a simpleton.

> > > Unlike the Holy Postulates,  told your
> > > idiot gurus by Nature itself when She
> > > spoke to them. Right, Harrie?
> > 
> > Postulates are human constructs also, but they can be tested
> > against [nature].
>
> Only such an idiot can believe and repeat such
> an absurd lie.

So Wozzie denies that human constructs (like the constancy of the
speed of light) can't be tested against nature?  What is the matter
with this demented fool?

> But - see: 0 meridian has something in common with both The Shit
> of  your idiot guru and Lorontz ether theory, after all...

So Wozzie believes that 0 meridian is a fundamental property of
nature, like the speed of light?  This moron has gone totally off
the rails.  Python, call that nurse NOW!

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