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Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust

From Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Newsgroups comp.compilers
Subject Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust
Date 2025-05-14 20:01 +0000
Organization Compilers Central
Message-ID <25-05-007@comp.compilers> (permalink)
References <25-05-004@comp.compilers> <25-05-005@comp.compilers> <25-05-006@comp.compilers>

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On 2025-05-14, arnold@freefriends.org <arnold@freefriends.org> wrote:
> In article <25-05-005@comp.compilers>,
> Derek  <derek-nospam@shape-of-code.com> wrote:
>>I suspect that the same is happening with Rust. If so, how does using
>>Rust make the code safer than using C without any checking switched
>>on?
>
> Rust catches many problems at compile time.  I am not at all a Rust
> expert, or even a novice, but I don't think Rust does runtime
> bounds checking, since it relies on compiler analysis instead.

How would it be safe if you could write a Rust program that asks the
user to input a random decimal number, and then uses it an index to
access an array, without any check?

The compiler will eliminate bounds checks at compile time if it can
infer they are unnecessary; e.g. a loop sets up a dummy variable to step
over the correct range, and does not mess with it otherwise.

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Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-09 12:27 -0400
  Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust Derek <derek-nospam@shape-of-code.com> - 2025-05-13 21:30 +0100
    Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust arnold@freefriends.org - 2025-05-14 08:21 +0000
      Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-05-14 20:01 +0000
        Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at - 2025-05-15 07:48 +0000
      Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-05-15 11:52 -0400
      Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net - 2025-05-16 15:42 +0000
        Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-05-16 17:57 +0000

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