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Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust

From Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Newsgroups comp.compilers
Subject Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust
Date 2025-05-16 17:57 +0000
Organization Compilers Central
Message-ID <25-05-012@comp.compilers> (permalink)
References <25-05-004@comp.compilers> <25-05-005@comp.compilers> <25-05-006@comp.compilers> <25-05-011@comp.compilers>

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On 2025-05-16, cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
> In article <25-05-006@comp.compilers>,  <arnold@freefriends.org> wrote:
>>In article <25-05-005@comp.compilers>,
>>Derek  <derek-nospam@shape-of-code.com> wrote:
>>>I suspect that the same is happening with Rust. If so, how does using
>>>Rust make the code safer than using C without any checking switched
>>>on?
>>
>>Rust catches many problems at compile time.  I am not at all a Rust
>>expert, or even a novice, but I don't think Rust does runtime
>>bounds checking, since it relies on compiler analysis instead.
>
> Other way 'round, mostly.  Array bounds checking is performed at
> runtime, but if the compiler can prove that the bounds check is
> superfluous (trivial example: the index is the constant 0 for a
> non-empty array) then it can elide the code that does the check.

The logic doesn't even have to be specific to array bounds checking.

If we know that "i" is in the range 0 to 9, then "if (i < 10) S;"
is dead code, whether appearing literally that way in the source
code, or whether such a test is generated for an array access.

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Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-09 12:27 -0400
  Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust Derek <derek-nospam@shape-of-code.com> - 2025-05-13 21:30 +0100
    Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust arnold@freefriends.org - 2025-05-14 08:21 +0000
      Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-05-14 20:01 +0000
        Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at - 2025-05-15 07:48 +0000
      Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-05-15 11:52 -0400
      Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net - 2025-05-16 15:42 +0000
        Re: Paper: PR2: Peephole Raw Pointer Rewriting with LLMs for Translating C to Safer Rust Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-05-16 17:57 +0000

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