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Re: COBOL and tricks

From	Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: COBOL and tricks
Date	2022-08-01 08:09 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 00:38:37 -0400
"25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> wrote:

>    But it's the *correct* viewpoint, it IS "programming",
>    creating a predictable, useful, train of events through
>    carefully (soldered) logical design 

	Yes there are similarities between the design of electronic
hardware, the design of software, the design of mechanical systems and so
forth but similarities do not make them the same thing. We have words to
distinguish them because although they are all branches of *engineering*
and thus embody common principles they are different disciplines no matter
how similar. It is a mistake to conflate similar things instead of
recognising both the similarities and the differences.

	Now STFU about it and say something interesting please.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-22 13:03 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "G.K." <spam@example.invalid> - 2022-07-22 09:20 -0500
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              Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-07-20 10:06 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-20 17:16 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-07-20 20:09 +0100
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                Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-20 23:09 +0000
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                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-25 00:02 -0400
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                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-26 01:35 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-26 01:28 -0400
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                Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-26 20:43 +0000
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                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-27 21:28 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-27 11:39 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-26 21:52 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-26 22:26 +0100
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                Re: COBOL and tricks Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-31 21:27 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-31 18:05 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-08-01 02:05 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-31 21:54 -0400
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                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-01 22:59 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-08-02 09:42 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-02 09:23 -0700
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                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-26 16:20 +0100
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                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-26 16:17 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-26 21:58 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-26 22:19 +0100
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                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 01:59 -0400
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                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-27 18:50 +0100
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                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-27 19:09 +0100
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                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-27 13:48 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-27 10:14 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-27 15:20 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-27 15:19 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-26 13:49 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-26 20:25 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-27 23:00 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-28 07:01 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-28 15:10 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-28 18:11 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-29 13:02 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-31 22:40 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-28 12:13 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-29 13:03 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-29 15:23 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-31 23:23 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-01 09:45 -0500
                Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-01 14:50 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-01 14:51 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-08-01 14:18 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-01 18:38 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-08-01 20:55 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 01:21 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-01 15:40 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2022-08-01 16:07 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-01 20:33 +0000
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                Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-08-01 19:47 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-08-01 15:58 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-01 18:53 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:41 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
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                Re: COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-01 17:05 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-02 11:05 -0500
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 01:05 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-02 11:12 -0500
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-02 09:29 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 00:42 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-02 23:47 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-02 09:23 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 00:51 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:48 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 19:11 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 01:54 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-26 13:49 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-27 22:48 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2022-09-13 19:56 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-09-14 14:05 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-27 21:37 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-28 13:02 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-28 23:40 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-29 15:54 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-31 23:47 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2022-07-29 17:02 -0500
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-28 12:13 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-28 19:49 +0000
                Re: ancient I/O, was COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-07-29 18:37 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-28 16:35 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-28 17:52 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-29 00:23 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2022-07-29 09:15 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-29 08:13 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-29 23:57 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-30 08:13 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-30 15:04 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 21:07 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-07-31 12:55 -0500
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-31 19:32 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-07-31 19:13 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-07-31 19:17 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2022-07-31 16:45 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-01 00:38 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 08:09 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-01 11:02 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 12:02 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-01 17:35 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-01 18:06 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 19:05 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:35 +0100
                Re: boot me, COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-08-01 21:10 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-01 18:53 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:37 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-08-02 09:39 +0100
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-08-02 17:05 +0000
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 01:05 -0400
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-03 11:51 -0500
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 22:11 -0400
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-05 06:52 +0100
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-06 00:30 -0400
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-07 22:36 +0000
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-07 20:27 -0400
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-08 06:09 +0000
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-08-13 14:53 -0400
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-13 19:44 +0000
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2022-08-13 16:51 -0400
                Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-14 14:34 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-01 08:19 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-01 14:00 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-01 14:46 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-29 08:09 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-29 00:00 -0400
                Re: different languages, was COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-07-29 18:55 +0000
                Re: different languages, was COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 00:53 -0400
                Re: different languages, was COBOL and tricks Timothy McCaffrey <timcaffrey420@gmail.com> - 2022-08-04 07:52 -0700
                Re: different languages, was COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-04 17:00 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2022-07-29 16:41 -0500
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 01:03 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-30 08:16 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 19:50 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-30 14:56 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 20:35 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-31 21:51 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-31 21:26 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 02:07 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-02 14:30 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2022-08-02 15:09 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 01:07 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-03 13:41 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 01:31 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-04 06:27 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-04 08:23 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-04 18:05 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 23:35 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-05 16:45 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-05 21:50 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-06 02:21 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 23:29 -0400
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-08-05 03:33 +0000
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-05 14:05 +0000
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-05 16:01 +0000
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-05 16:45 +0000
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-08-05 13:13 -0400
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-05 19:14 +0000
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-08-05 23:20 -0400
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-05 21:40 +0000
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Ibmekon <Ibmekon@google.com> - 2022-08-05 23:35 +0100
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> - 2022-08-05 17:51 -0500
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Ibmekon <Ibmekon@google.com> - 2022-08-06 00:30 +0100
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> - 2022-08-06 13:32 -0500
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-06 07:06 +0000
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-06 06:56 +0000
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Ibmekon <Ibmekon@google.com> - 2022-08-06 17:39 +0100
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> - 2022-08-06 13:30 -0500
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-05 19:12 +0000
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-05 21:03 +0100
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-05 21:45 -0400
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-08-13 14:58 -0400
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-06 02:19 +0100
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-05 21:44 -0400
                Re: cars and COBOL and tricks J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-08-13 15:03 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-06 02:15 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 01:03 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-28 23:43 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-29 15:23 -0700
                Re: old firms, was COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-07-29 22:58 +0000
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 01:04 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-06 00:06 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 00:32 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-02 09:23 -0700
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 00:46 -0400
                Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-08-04 10:34 +0100
                Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 11:07 -0400
        Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-20 11:42 +0100
          Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-20 10:04 -0700
          Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-20 17:16 +0000
            Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-25 00:23 -0400
              Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-25 05:45 +0000
                Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-26 02:46 -0400
                Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-26 20:43 +0000
    Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-07-20 18:43 -0400
      Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-21 06:01 +0100
        Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-21 17:42 +0000
          Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-21 19:52 +0100
  Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-07-20 18:41 -0400
    Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-26 23:19 -0400

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