Re: Please help PC guy with friend's Imac.

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Please help PC guy with friend's Imac.
Date	2016-04-03 10:19 +1200
Organization	Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID	<030420161019076244%YourName@YourISP.com> (permalink)
References	(1 earlier) <slrnnfuf7g.18dh.g.kreme@amelia.local> <2016040121255630105-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <iakufb909f04oe0b870fl7npoor7ml3kk3@4ax.com> <020420161746211660%YourName@YourISP.com> <i040gbtm1n8qm6fgichs665kahad1dv7kl@4ax.com>

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In article <i040gbtm1n8qm6fgichs665kahad1dv7kl@4ax.com>, micky
<NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.system, on Sat, 02 Apr 2016 17:46:21 +1200, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >In article <iakufb909f04oe0b870fl7npoor7ml3kk3@4ax.com>, Micky
> ><NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Pulling the hard drive might be a good idea too.  I have a SATA/IDE to
> >> USB adapter, a cable with a power supply for the harddrive, and surely
> >> I can get some PC software to read the email files (Mac Mail), and the
> >> file files. 
> >
> >A Windoze PC can't read a Mac formatted drive without extra driver
> >software. If you install that, then you can read the drive and see the
> >files, but you won't be able to access any that are in Mac application
> >only formats, and that includes Mail emails, AppleWorks documents, etc.
> >(at least not without a lot of extra hassle converting, importing,
> >...).
> 
> Well how about this?  Instead of continuing to try to log into his
> account, I change everything to my account, and forward all the
> important email and send all the important files as attachments?  
> 
> To his brother, maybe some of it to myself, and some to an organization
> he was helping to run (they're the ones who can use the files).    
> 
> Won't the email be converted automatically?

Of course, if you email them from the Mac's Mail application. The
problem is the emails aren't stored in any way easily read by a PC
(even if the PC is set-up to read the Mac hard drive).

As long as you can get the Mac working, you can of course forward the
emails, or export them as plain text or PDFs. There's probably ways,
with extra effort, to export the emails in a format that can be
imported into Windows Outlook.

> If the attached files will be illegible to a PC, I could get something
> to convert them first to PDF.    Or maybe to plain text????  Is Mac
> plain text the same as PC plain text? 

Again, as long as you can get the Mac working, it should be fairly easy
(if time consuming).

Mac OS X applications can easily create PDFs directly from the Print
window, although it will depend on what version of OS X the Mac is
running and the application as to how well that works - old versions
and some applications have a nasty habit of creating PDFs that use only
images (any text is turned into an image, meaning it's not easily
extractable as text).

Some applications will be able to save to other formats. AppleWorks,
for example, can save its text documents as Microsoft Word documents
and its spreadsheet documents as Microsoft Excel documents - although
depending on the complexity of the documents, some bits may be lost or
the Word document a bit messy.

Plain text is plain text ... most modern computer applications can
handle either "Mac" or "Windows" format. Even if they can't, at worst
you'll probably get some garbage characters and perhaps paragraphs not
separated properly.

It all depends on what applications were being used and what types of
documents created. Maybe he was using Mac Outlook for emails instead of
Mac Mail, for example, and Mac Word for wordprocessing.

The biggest cross-platform conversion issue is usually databases - if
he used one. There's no version of Microsoft Access for Macs and
there's no database application I've come across that can export the
entire database (data and structure) as an Access document. Best you
can do is export the data to a text file and import that into a newly
created Windows database. If he had databases created in FileMaker Pro,
then there is a Windows version of that, which makes transferring the
databases very easy.

> Come to think of it, for a few months a couple years ago, he used to
> send me, as attachments, letters he mailed out on occasion to
> organization members, for me to edit a little better, and I would send
> them back to him, and he would mail them.  So there must be some level
> of interlegibility.             I don't remember why he couldn't finish
> editing them (some technical reason) but when I look at them again, and
> the emails he sent them with, I probably will.   (This is why I save all
> my email except spam and a little more.) 

If he sent you Microsoft Word documents which you then re-saved in the
silly new .docx format, then it's very possible he couldn't open them -
old versions of Microsoft Word (whether on Mac or Windows) can't open
.docx files. Same with the new Excel .xlsx and Powerpoint .pptx
formats.

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