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Re: spreadsheet ergonomics

From	owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: spreadsheet ergonomics
Date	2017-04-01 05:22 +0000
Organization	O.W.L.
Message-ID	<00b90q.ah33@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 3/31/17, 4:19 PM, in article ablaico3.ss@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/31/17, 4:48 AM, in article ab003g.hi4@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> https://vid.me/UgNo
>>>> Spread your work out how you want it with sc.
>>>> There are two views of the main sheet (green), and two sets (yellow
>>>> and blue) of other sheets.  Data enterened into any of the
>>>> auxilliary sheets gets totaled and sent to the main sheet.
>>>> 
>>> Right... you can have related tables, but you can only have one table per
>>> window, right? You cannot, for example, have someone open a page and get
>>> something like this (hmmm, though I had an old video of this... maybe not,
>>> so made a new one):
>>> 
>>>     <https://youtu.be/V2bRLDuaVOk>
>> 
>> We've been over the embedding of windows in X11.  xterm has it as an
>> option, and xdotool allows it for most any window.  Of course, this is
>> window embedding, not document embedding, but you can simulate document
>> embedding by using a frame and sizing/positioning the embedded window
>> to the frame, then having text appear to wrap around the embedded window
>> by wrapping around the frame.
> 
> Right, you can do some rather extreme and bizarre work arounds to get
> similar end results... sort of.
> 

Nothing bizarre about it at all.  It's not much different from your
embedded tables, which are also in frames (or whatever Apple calls
the containers).

https://vid.me/Al6B

That's the main.sc sheet from earlier, now embedded in a scribus window,
and taking data from the other sheets.  Editing the other sheets shows
those updates in the scribus sc window.  Both local and remote editing
demonstrated.

Printed docs are static anyway, so it doesn't matter how you get to 
the result.  Documents shared for editing can just share the whole
process if necessary. 

> Again, though, nothing wrong with sc and while Numbers does plenty it does
> not, sc is a MUCH more powerful tool for "real" number crunching (as is even
> Excel).
> 

Why do you say that?

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spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-03-31 11:48 +0000
  Re: spreadsheet ergonomics chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-31 09:20 -0500
    Re: spreadsheet ergonomics chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-31 10:07 -0500
  Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-31 12:23 -0700
    Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-03-31 23:19 +0000
      Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-31 19:08 -0700
        Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-01 05:22 +0000
          Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-31 22:50 -0700
            Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-01 09:23 +0000
              Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-01 09:50 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-02 04:45 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-01 23:34 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-02 08:58 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 08:59 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 00:14 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 17:33 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 01:46 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 19:24 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 04:53 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 10:20 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 19:40 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 10:53 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 19:38 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 13:01 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 20:54 +0000
          Re: spreadsheet ergonomics DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-01 11:47 -0400
            Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-01 11:21 -0500
              Re: spreadsheet ergonomics DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-02 10:44 -0400
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-02 15:02 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 13:35 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-02 15:39 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 13:52 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-03 07:49 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2017-04-02 22:42 +0100
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Joe <Negrojoe@cottonpickers.edu> - 2017-04-02 21:57 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 15:46 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Joe <Negrojoe@cottonpickers.edu> - 2017-04-02 23:00 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 16:10 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-03 01:24 +0200
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics flatfish+++ <flatfish@cutey.com> - 2017-04-02 19:31 -0400
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 16:40 -0700
                Snit digest 386 / 2017-04-03 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-03 07:56 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-03 09:47 +0200
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics flatfish+++ <flatfish@cutey.com> - 2017-04-03 12:17 -0400
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 10:57 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 11:34 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 16:34 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-02 19:49 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 18:00 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-02 21:36 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 19:45 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-03 08:09 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 10:43 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 11:05 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-03 21:08 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-03 08:02 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 11:48 -0700
            Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-01 09:56 -0700
              Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 10:12 -0700
            Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-02 05:01 +0000
  Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-01 04:53 -0400
    Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-01 08:30 -0500
    Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-02 05:00 +0000
      Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-02 09:01 -0400
        Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-02 20:41 +0000
          Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 13:57 -0700
            Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Joe <Negrojoe@cottonpickers.edu> - 2017-04-02 21:10 +0000
              Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 14:22 -0700

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