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Re: Breaking the law politely

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On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:01:14 -0000 (UTC), Incubus
<incubus9536612@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2021-04-15, Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> wrote:
>> On 15/04/2021 14:15, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2021 01:42 pm, Pancho wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 15/04/2021 12:38, Pamela wrote:
>>> 
>>> [ ... ]
>>> 
>>>>> Why are there few similar videos involving white civilians? I've
>>>>> seen many white posters say if they're stopped they just comply even
>>>>> if it seems unreasonable.  But blacks do it differently. ...
>>>>> There is no doubt many American blacks are highly suspicious of the
>>>>> police and the police history contains many instances of brutality.
>>>>> However that does not give civilians the right to resist but many
>>>>> black civilians do so.  Some do it as a reflex and others do it from
>>>>> training such as that video.  Surely neither is legitimate.
>>>>
>>>> Black civil disobedience towards the police is a way of showing 
>>>> dissatisfaction. Civil disobedience has always been a core weapon for 
>>>> instigating change. A core mechanism that the underprivileged use to 
>>>> fight oppressive authority.
>>> 
>>> It is not oppressive to enforce the laws against theft, robbery, 
>>> assaults, murders, drug dealing, etc.
>>> 
>>
>> Gosh, a typical straw-man. I never said it was, but it might be.
>>
>> For instance would it be oppressive for the police to give you a penalty 
>> every time you broke an law, whilst not doing so for others. For 
>> instance if you got a penalty every time you drove 21mph in a 20 mph zone?
>>
>> It is clear that many members of the black community believe they suffer 
>> oppressive behaviour from the police even when they are law abiding.
>
>Perception can be wrong, though, particularly if you have been brought up
>believing something that you never question.  A black client of a law firm I
>worked for was pulled over by the feds because he was driving erratically.  He
>blew a positive breath test.  He was on record telling his eight year old son
>that when he is older, he can look forward to being pulled over just because he
>is black.
>
>"Muh oppression" and "racism" is a standard tactic among the black criminal
>fraternity for not having to feel responsible for any crimes they have
>committed.  They can just tell themselves that white people would have gotten
>away with it.

paranoia sets up dangerous positive feedbacks

the black is paranoid of the police, so acts negative/
    suspicious/uncooperative....so the police learn to
    expect it...so they in turn become nervous/irritable
thence black/gypsies or other minorities in turn learn
    to distrust police(and other would-be 'authorities')


this is a generalized problem in human behaviour

you cannot stop this until people learn better
    people skills
thus such skills are better taught systematically in society

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Re: Breaking the law politely abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2021-04-15 17:42 +0200
  Re: Breaking the law politely Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2021-04-15 17:56 +0000
    Re: Breaking the law politely Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-04-15 19:31 +0100
      Re: Breaking the law politely Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2021-04-16 10:43 +0000
        Re: Breaking the law politely Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-04-16 12:26 +0100
          Re: Breaking the law politely Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> - 2021-04-16 13:28 +0100
      Re: Breaking the law politely JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> - 2021-04-16 14:17 +0100
        Re: Breaking the law politely abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2021-04-16 15:51 +0200
          Re: Breaking the law politely JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> - 2021-04-16 16:06 +0100
            Re: Breaking the law politely Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2021-04-16 16:52 +0000
              Re: Breaking the law politely JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> - 2021-04-16 20:45 +0100
                Re: Breaking the law politely Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2021-04-19 09:16 +0000
        Re: Breaking the law politely Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-04-16 15:24 +0100
          Re: Breaking the law politely JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> - 2021-04-16 16:10 +0100
            Re: Breaking the law politely Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-04-16 17:46 +0100
              Re: Breaking the law politely JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> - 2021-04-16 20:42 +0100
                Re: Breaking the law politely Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-04-17 10:37 +0100
                Re: Breaking the law politely JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> - 2021-04-17 18:00 +0100

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