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| From | "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac |
| Subject | Re: Screenshot! |
| Date | 2026-05-26 14:56 +0100 |
| Organization | Retired |
| Message-ID | <n7ln3qFrmsvU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <n7e2roFlopsU1@mid.individual.net> <n7ibteFbki3U1@mid.individual.net> <6a146180$1$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <n7js4qFiu1iU1@mid.individual.net> <6a14e3fe$0$21958$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
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On 26/05/2026 01:06, Brock McNuggets wrote: > On May 25, 2026 at 2:09:45 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote > <n7js4qFiu1iU1@mid.individual.net>: > >> On 25/05/2026 15:49, Brock McNuggets wrote: > > ... >>>>> >>>>> That has NOTHING to do with EtreCheck. Again: >>>>> >>>>> You: In the old days, the developer implied that dragging his App to the >>>>> Trash/Bin removed all trace of it from one's computer. >>>>> >>>>> Me: When? Never on macOS... even Classic Mac. So when? Apple IIe? >>>>> >>>>> What "old days" did a developer say dragging his app via dragging to Trash >>>>> removed all traces? The answer is: NEVER. This has NEVER been how macOS, or >>>>> even Classic Mac, worked. >>>> >>>> OK - I didn't get a Mac until 2009 >>> >>> That STILL does not answer the question. >> >> Sorry! > >>> You: In the old days, the developer implied that dragging his App to the >>> Trash/Bin removed all trace of it from one's computer. >>> >>> Me: When? Never on macOS... even Classic Mac. So when? Apple IIe? >>> >>> So when? When do you think dragging an app to the Trash (Bin) removed all >>> traced? >> >> When the App was downloaded from the Apple App Store. > > That is not how it has ever worked. Not even if you go back to the Classic Mac > days. And this is by design. A benefit to users. If nothing else the > Preferences (plist) file stays so if you download it again it remembers your > preferences. OK - My AI enquiries agree with you! >>>>>>>>> Are you OK? You’re not making any sense or understanding anything being >>>>>>>>> said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bit sore yesterday and today from having yet another Covid jab! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Glad you are getting it... sorry you are sore. >>>>>> >>>>>> I only have them to please my wife! 🤣 >>>>> >>>>> She is wise. >>>> >>>> She is ..... she's stayed married to me for nearly 60 years!!! >>> >>> Well, never said she was perfect. :) >>> >>> Seriously, that is amazing. >> >> We're simply lucky that we have lived or so long! 🙂 > > And have built a strong bond. And that takes work and dedication. You have > every right to be proud. Thanks. >>>>>>>>> You talked about deleting an app. You went on about files being left behind >>>>>>>>> — as is the norm on macOS. But your comments were not tied to any real >>>>>>>>> understanding. Then you jumped to how a developer changed his tune but when >>>>>>>>> asked about that changed topics to him releasing other software. When this >>>>>>>>> was noted you made a bizarre jump to modern apps not being compiled on >>>>>>>>> now-ancient OSs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Seriously, are you OK? You’re clearly not making a lick of sense and can’t >>>>>>>>> follow a discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wonder if anyone else has noticed! 😅 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does not matter to me. But to get back to the topic (I hope): You keep going >>>>>>> on about files being left behind when you uninstall an app. You try to >>>>>>> differentiate between those from the Apple Store and those note. What point >>>>>>> are you trying to make? I get you are focused on EtreCheck leaving old scan >>>>>>> results, and admit that is a bit uncommon (but not a concern), but on the >>>>>>> bigger picture what is your point? I keep asking and you just change the >>>>>>> topic. >>>>>> >>>>>> This all goes back a very long time. EtreCheck was, at first, available >>>>>> on the Apple App Store. That was proof that John Daniel had been >>>>>> 'vetted' by Apple and 'Notarized'. Then it was no longer available there. >>>>>> Now taht Mr. Daniel has another software - Storeograph - availble from >>>>>> the Apple App Store it is confirmation, once again, that JD has been >>>>>> investigated, approved and "Notarized" by Apple. >>>>> >>>>> Being on the Apple App Store, or being notarized by Apple in general,does not >>>>> mean Apple has in any significant way investigated, endorsed, or certified a >>>>> developer’s trustworthiness in the way you are implying. >>>>> >>>>> You said he changed his tune. Releasing a new app does not show that. >>>> >>>> Although he still refuses to "talk" to me, he has listened to my >>>> comments and adjusted what is said on his website! >>> >>> Before you said he did NOT change anything. >> >> Maybe I did. Mabe you misunderstood. <shrug> > > Fair. Not going to dig back. You have clarified... though seems his change was > to place it in an easier to see place, not to mention it at all (he has done > that for a long time). I think arrogance had a part to play. >>>>>>> Then you spoke of the developer changing his tune. You did this in >>>> relation to >>>>>>> his having the old scan results but have said that is not it. You then changed >>>>>>> the topic to him having other software. Again: how did he change his tune? >>>>>> >>>>>> At www.etrecheck.com it is now explained that old reports *ARE* retained. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Uninstall: >>>>>> >>>>>> To uninstall EtreCheckPro, just drag the EtreCheckPro.app file to the Trash. >>>>>> >>>>>> EtreCheckPro saves all generated reports automatically under the >>>>>> Previous reports item in the File menu. This will open a Finder window >>>>>> showing all previous reports. These can be managed with the Delete >>>>>> previous report item in the File menu." >>>>>> >>>>>> THAT paragraph is *NEW*! >>>>> >>>>> The earliest WBM archive of that page. 22 October 2022. >>>> >>>> You need to be more thorough in your research! >>>> >>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20221022023945/https://www.etrecheck.com/en/details.html >>>>> >>>>> The text was a bit different but the idea has been there since at least then. >>>> >>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20140705061537/http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck >>> >>> The point is the comment -- with slightly different wording -- has been on the >>> site for a long time. With an explanation of why and how to remove the old >>> data. Where it saved makes perfect sense. Would be good if this was noted in >>> the app. Maybe it is? >> >> It *IS* mentioned now - but it didn't used to be! > > It was on the page I pointed to back in 2022. It was. Rarely have I looked. >>>>>> https://www.etrecheck.com/en/details.html >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope that clarifies matters for you. >>>>> >>>>> It shows the developer has been very open about the old reports for a long >>>>> time. It is a non-issue. >>>> >>>> As I've mentioned before, my original nym when posting on the ASC forums >>>> was HunterBD. >>>> >>>> Here's one of my first discussions about EtreCheck:- >>>> >>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6781873?answerId=27530552022&sortBy=rank#27530552022 >>> >>> It is amazing how long you have had this issue with pushing concerns in such >>> an irrational way -- have you ever sought help on your issue here? >> >> I'm pretty sure I have, but you have always been interested in your own >> agenda, not with mine! > > I am happy to look at other issues... but I am NOT interested in your > borderline harassment of developers. As I have noted, you cause harm and I do > not agree with that. Only "bad guys" need fear me! -- Kind regards, David
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