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| From | "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac |
| Subject | Re: Screenshot! |
| Date | 2026-05-25 22:09 +0100 |
| Organization | Retired |
| Message-ID | <n7js4qFiu1iU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 25/05/2026 15:49, Brock McNuggets wrote: > On May 25, 2026 at 12:26:38 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote > <n7ibteFbki3U1@mid.individual.net>: > >> On 24/05/2026 23:41, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>> On May 24, 2026 at 3:23:32 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote >>> <n7hc34F705nU1@mid.individual.net>: >>> >>>> On 24/05/2026 23:00, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>> On May 24, 2026 at 1:48:38 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote >>>>> <n7h6h6F64ueU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>>> >>>>>> On 24/05/2026 15:53, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 15:16, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 14:40, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2026 at 6:23:58 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <n7gcffF24o0U2@mid.individual.net>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 13:59, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> .[....] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please answer the questions? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please - RESTATE your question >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You: In the old days, the developer implied that dragging his App to the >>>>>>>>>>> Trash/Bin removed all trace of it from one's computer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Me: When? Never on macOS... even Classic Mac. So when? Apple IIe? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please answer this question. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why didn’t you answer the question? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Definitely macOS >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/xKDRp0x4/Screenshot-2026-05-24-at-15-00-28.png >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You: The developer has changed his tune - at last! 😁 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Me: How? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please answer this question. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why didn’t you answer the question? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Once again, he now has a notarized App in the App Store again >>>>>>>>>> (Storeograph) so he MUST be a good guy! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I did answer; I'm saddened that you didn't understand that EtreCheck was >>>>>>>> not compiled until after macOS was developed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What? Where did you get that? LOL! >>>>>> >>>>>> I helped him during his development phase! >>>>> >>>>> Good grief. Where did you get the idea that ANYONE thought EtreCheck was >>>>> compiled before macOS was developed? You are not focusing at all on what is >>>>> being said. >>>> >>>> Let me quote what *YOU* said:- >>>> >>>> "Me: When? Never on macOS... even Classic Mac. So when? Apple IIe?" >>>> >>>> Does that help?!!! >>> >>> That has NOTHING to do with EtreCheck. Again: >>> >>> You: In the old days, the developer implied that dragging his App to the >>> Trash/Bin removed all trace of it from one's computer. >>> >>> Me: When? Never on macOS... even Classic Mac. So when? Apple IIe? >>> >>> What "old days" did a developer say dragging his app via dragging to Trash >>> removed all traces? The answer is: NEVER. This has NEVER been how macOS, or >>> even Classic Mac, worked. >> >> OK - I didn't get a Mac until 2009 > > That STILL does not answer the question. Sorry! > You: In the old days, the developer implied that dragging his App to the > Trash/Bin removed all trace of it from one's computer. > > Me: When? Never on macOS... even Classic Mac. So when? Apple IIe? > > So when? When do you think dragging an app to the Trash (Bin) removed all > traced? When the App was downloaded from the Apple App Store. >>>>>>> Are you OK? You’re not making any sense or understanding anything being >>>>>>> said. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bit sore yesterday and today from having yet another Covid jab! >>>>> >>>>> Glad you are getting it... sorry you are sore. >>>> >>>> I only have them to please my wife! 🤣 >>> >>> She is wise. >> >> She is ..... she's stayed married to me for nearly 60 years!!! > > Well, never said she was perfect. :) > > Seriously, that is amazing. We're simply lucky that we have lived or so long! 🙂 >>>>>>> You talked about deleting an app. You went on about files being left behind >>>>>>> — as is the norm on macOS. But your comments were not tied to any real >>>>>>> understanding. Then you jumped to how a developer changed his tune but when >>>>>>> asked about that changed topics to him releasing other software. When this >>>>>>> was noted you made a bizarre jump to modern apps not being compiled on >>>>>>> now-ancient OSs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seriously, are you OK? You’re clearly not making a lick of sense and can’t >>>>>>> follow a discussion. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if anyone else has noticed! 😅 >>>>> >>>>> Does not matter to me. But to get back to the topic (I hope): You keep going >>>>> on about files being left behind when you uninstall an app. You try to >>>>> differentiate between those from the Apple Store and those note. What point >>>>> are you trying to make? I get you are focused on EtreCheck leaving old scan >>>>> results, and admit that is a bit uncommon (but not a concern), but on the >>>>> bigger picture what is your point? I keep asking and you just change the >>>>> topic. >>>> >>>> This all goes back a very long time. EtreCheck was, at first, available >>>> on the Apple App Store. That was proof that John Daniel had been >>>> 'vetted' by Apple and 'Notarized'. Then it was no longer available there. >>>> Now taht Mr. Daniel has another software - Storeograph - availble from >>>> the Apple App Store it is confirmation, once again, that JD has been >>>> investigated, approved and "Notarized" by Apple. >>> >>> Being on the Apple App Store, or being notarized by Apple in general,does not >>> mean Apple has in any significant way investigated, endorsed, or certified a >>> developer’s trustworthiness in the way you are implying. >>> >>> You said he changed his tune. Releasing a new app does not show that. >> >> Although he still refuses to "talk" to me, he has listened to my >> comments and adjusted what is said on his website! > > Before you said he did NOT change anything. Maybe I did. Mabe you misunderstood. <shrug> >>>>> Then you spoke of the developer changing his tune. You did this in >> relation to >>>>> his having the old scan results but have said that is not it. You then changed >>>>> the topic to him having other software. Again: how did he change his tune? >>>> >>>> At www.etrecheck.com it is now explained that old reports *ARE* retained. >>>> >>>> "Uninstall: >>>> >>>> To uninstall EtreCheckPro, just drag the EtreCheckPro.app file to the Trash. >>>> >>>> EtreCheckPro saves all generated reports automatically under the >>>> Previous reports item in the File menu. This will open a Finder window >>>> showing all previous reports. These can be managed with the Delete >>>> previous report item in the File menu." >>>> >>>> THAT paragraph is *NEW*! >>> >>> The earliest WBM archive of that page. 22 October 2022. >> >> You need to be more thorough in your research! >> >>> https://web.archive.org/web/20221022023945/https://www.etrecheck.com/en/details.html >>> >>> The text was a bit different but the idea has been there since at least then. >> >> https://web.archive.org/web/20140705061537/http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck > > The point is the comment -- with slightly different wording -- has been on the > site for a long time. With an explanation of why and how to remove the old > data. Where it saved makes perfect sense. Would be good if this was noted in > the app. Maybe it is? It *IS* mentioned now - but it didn't used to be! >>>> https://www.etrecheck.com/en/details.html >>>> >>>> I hope that clarifies matters for you. >>> >>> It shows the developer has been very open about the old reports for a long >>> time. It is a non-issue. >> >> As I've mentioned before, my original nym when posting on the ASC forums >> was HunterBD. >> >> Here's one of my first discussions about EtreCheck:- >> >> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6781873?answerId=27530552022&sortBy=rank#27530552022 > > It is amazing how long you have had this issue with pushing concerns in such > an irrational way -- have you ever sought help on your issue here? I'm pretty sure I have, butyou have always been interested in your own agenda, not with mine! -- Kind regards, David
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