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Re: Screenshot!

From "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Screenshot!
Date 2026-05-25 08:26 +0100
Organization Retired
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On 24/05/2026 23:41, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On May 24, 2026 at 3:23:32 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
> <n7hc34F705nU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 24/05/2026 23:00, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On May 24, 2026 at 1:48:38 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>> <n7h6h6F64ueU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 24/05/2026 15:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 15:16, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 14:40, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2026 at 6:23:58 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <n7gcffF24o0U2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 13:59, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> .[....]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please answer the questions?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please - RESTATE your question
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You: In the old days, the developer implied that dragging his App to the
>>>>>>>>> Trash/Bin removed all trace of it from one's computer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Me: When? Never on macOS... even Classic Mac. So when? Apple IIe?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please answer this question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why didn’t you answer the question?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Definitely macOS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/xKDRp0x4/Screenshot-2026-05-24-at-15-00-28.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You: The developer has changed his tune - at last! 😁
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Me: How?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please answer this question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why didn’t you answer the question?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once again, he now has a notarized App in the App Store again
>>>>>>>> (Storeograph) so he MUST be a good guy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did answer; I'm saddened that you didn't understand that EtreCheck was
>>>>>> not compiled until after macOS was developed.
>>>>>
>>>>> What? Where did you get that? LOL!
>>>>
>>>> I helped him during his development phase!
>>>
>>> Good grief. Where did you get the idea that ANYONE thought EtreCheck was
>>> compiled before macOS was developed? You are not focusing at all on what is
>>> being said.
>>
>> Let me quote what *YOU* said:-
>>
>> "Me: When? Never on macOS... even Classic Mac. So when? Apple IIe?"
>>
>> Does that help?!!!
> 
> That has NOTHING to do with EtreCheck. Again:
> 
> You: In the old days, the developer implied that dragging his App to the
> Trash/Bin removed all trace of it from one's computer.
> 
> Me: When? Never on macOS... even Classic Mac. So when? Apple IIe?
> 
> What "old days" did a developer say dragging his app via dragging to Trash
> removed all traces? The answer is: NEVER. This has NEVER been how macOS, or
> even Classic Mac, worked.

OK - I didn't get a Mac until 2009

>>>>> Are you OK? You’re not making any sense or understanding anything being
>>>>> said.
>>>>
>>>> Bit sore yesterday and today from having yet another Covid jab!
>>>
>>> Glad you are getting it... sorry you are sore.
>>
>> I only have them to please my wife!  🤣
> 
> She is wise.

She is ..... she's stayed married to me for nearly 60 years!!!

>>>>> You talked about deleting an app. You went on about files being left behind
>>>>> — as is the norm on macOS. But your comments were not tied to any real
>>>>> understanding. Then you jumped to how a developer changed his tune but when
>>>>> asked about that changed topics to him releasing other software. When this
>>>>> was noted you made a bizarre jump to modern apps not being compiled on
>>>>> now-ancient OSs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, are you OK? You’re clearly not making a lick of sense and can’t
>>>>> follow a discussion.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if anyone else has noticed! 😅
>>>
>>> Does not matter to me. But to get back to the topic (I hope): You keep going
>>> on about files being left behind when you uninstall an app. You try to
>>> differentiate between those from the Apple Store and those note. What point
>>> are you trying to make? I get you are focused on EtreCheck leaving old scan
>>> results, and admit that is a bit uncommon (but not a concern), but on the
>>> bigger picture what is your point? I keep asking and you just change the
>>> topic.
>>
>> This all goes back a very long time. EtreCheck was, at first, available
>> on the Apple App Store. That was proof that John Daniel had been
>> 'vetted' by Apple and 'Notarized'. Then it was no longer available there.
>> Now taht Mr. Daniel has another software - Storeograph - availble from
>> the Apple App Store it is confirmation, once again, that JD has been
>> investigated, approved and "Notarized" by Apple.
> 
> Being on the Apple App Store, or being notarized by Apple in general,does not
> mean Apple has in any significant way investigated, endorsed, or certified a
> developer’s trustworthiness in the way you are implying.
> 
> You said he changed his tune. Releasing a new app does not show that.

Although he still refuses to "talk" to me, he has listened to my 
comments and adjusted what is said on his website!
  >>> Then you spoke of the developer changing his tune. You did this in 
relation to
>>> his having the old scan results but have said that is not it. You then changed
>>> the topic to him having other software. Again: how did he change his tune?
>>
>> At www.etrecheck.com it is now explained that old reports *ARE* retained.
>>
>> "Uninstall:
>>
>> To uninstall EtreCheckPro, just drag the EtreCheckPro.app file to the Trash.
>>
>> EtreCheckPro saves all generated reports automatically under the
>> Previous reports item in the File menu. This will open a Finder window
>> showing all previous reports. These can be managed with the Delete
>> previous report item in the File menu."
>>
>> THAT paragraph is *NEW*!
> 
> The earliest WBM archive of that page. 22 October 2022.

You need to be more thorough in your research!

> https://web.archive.org/web/20221022023945/https://www.etrecheck.com/en/details.html
> 
> The text was a bit different but the idea has been there since at least then.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140705061537/http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck

>> https://www.etrecheck.com/en/details.html
>>
>> I hope that clarifies matters for you.
> 
> It shows the developer has been very open about the old reports for a long
> time. It is a non-issue.

As I've mentioned before, my original nym when posting on the ASC forums 
was HunterBD.

Here's one of my first discussions about EtreCheck:-

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6781873?answerId=27530552022&sortBy=rank#27530552022

-- 
Kind regards,
David

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