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Re: Last chance for Windows

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On 31/01/2025 21:30, David wrote:
> On 31/01/2025 18:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> FromTheRafters wrote on 1/31/25 9:08 AM:
>>> on 1/31/2025, David supposed :
>>>> On 31/01/2025 12:41, Chris wrote:
>>>>> John C. <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> First of all, please note that I'm *not* asking for help in 
>>>>>> dealing with
>>>>>> any of the issues I mention in this post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know why I'm bothering to write this. I guess I'm just
>>>>>> exasperated with all the problems I've been having with Windows 10 
>>>>>> Pro.
>>>>>> In all the time I've been using Windows (since 3.0), it's never been
>>>>>> this bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently I am suffering from a corrupt user account profile. I don't
>>>>>> know how this occurred, but I do know how to deal with it. And it's a
>>>>>> huge task migrating doing so, involving migration of settings to a 
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> account. But this isn't the only issue I'm experiencing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have a corrupt install of OneDrive on my system. This 
>>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>>> malware is definitely installed, but I can't remove it because 
>>>>>> it's not
>>>>>> listed in Programs and Features or Settings/Apps. Thus, I can't
>>>>>> uninstall it. And yes, this Microsoft malware exists on my SSD but
>>>>>> attempting to simply delete its folders fails. And no, I don't have a
>>>>>> malware infection from another source.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This second problem is so bad, that I'm now going to have to do a
>>>>>> completely fresh reinstall of W10 Pro and all my programs. I know 
>>>>>> how to
>>>>>> do this, so PLEASE, no advice. I already have researched this ad 
>>>>>> nauseum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here's what I have to say:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO, here are reasons why Windows has reached a point where it's no
>>>>>> longer a viable operating system for me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Windows code has gotten so complex that at this point, it's 
>>>>>> impossible
>>>>>> for Microsoft to maintain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Forced updates have cause issues for so many end-users, that many
>>>>>> people have simply given up and moved to either Apple or Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Feature elimination and overall regressions in functionality have 
>>>>>> led
>>>>>> to to a failure on the part of the OS to do its job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Microsoft's not-so-hidden agendas of:
>>>>>> 1. being so obsessed with maximizing their profits that they see end
>>>>>> users basically only as opponent to that goal
>>>>>> 2. acquiring information about end users WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION
>>>>>> 3. cooperating with three-letter-agencies around the world to provide
>>>>>> them with that information
>>>>>>
>>>>>> continually lead to their making seriously bad OS development 
>>>>>> choices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And now, on top of all this, Microsoft has been taken over by the
>>>>>> country of India. If you don't believe me, of course you're free to
>>>>>> disagree but IMO you're simply wrong. This takeover is blatantly 
>>>>>> obvious
>>>>>> to anybody with half a brain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At any rate, this fresh reinstall of Windows that I'm about to embark
>>>>>> upon is the last chance I will be giving to Microsoft and Windows. 
>>>>>> If it
>>>>>> fails for *any* reason, I will follow others in migrating away it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would certainly recommend macOS because for those of us that have 
>>>>> to use
>>>>> MS tools for work they are much more stable on macOS. I think it's 
>>>>> to do
>>>>> with the fact they can't have hooks all over the OS like they do in 
>>>>> windows
>>>>> so stick to their corner and just work. That does include oneDrive and
>>>>> Sharepoint.
>>>>
>>>> As you know, Chris, I migrated to macOS when I bought my first iMac in
>>>> 2009. Just as you say, for the most part, my Mac "just works"!
>>>>
>>>> What I did NOT realise, until this past week, is that Microsoft's
>>>> oneDrive is the equivalent of Apple's iCloud!
>>>
>>> Equivalent meaning 'cloud storage' then yes.
>>>
>>>> Am I right in thinking that neither Microsoft, nor any third-party 
>>>> scanner, can access and scan for malware any file stored in/on 
>>>> 'oneDrive'?
>>>
>>> Unless the scanner also cracks the encryption, which they cannot, 
>>> scanning won't find anything. You should decrypt and scan locally 
>>> before executing.
>>>
>>>> In other words, a great place for malware to hide!
>>>
>>> Data at rest cannot do anything untoward.
>>
>> OneDrive
>>   => Files are scanned by the Exchange Platform's Windows Defender 
>> Storage when uploaded, opened, and downloaded. If Windows is the 
>> upload source or download recipient, Windows Security(included 
>> Defender) also scans the files(before upload, before local save or 
>> sync). Additionally, unless excluded, automatic Windows Security 
>> 'Quick Scan', or manual 'Full Scan', scans OneDrive local 
>> folder(existing, synced files). Windows Security 'Custom Scan' scans 
>> the user choice of files and/or folders.
> 
> Of this I was completely unaware.
> 
> If Microsoft can do this (and I have no reason to doubt your word) it
> doesn't take too much imagination to recognise that, if they wish,
> Microsoft can monitor and understand everything that a computer user
> does if the user connects their computer to the Internet.
> 
> 
>> Windows 10 group removed. Not Win10 unique, its been the same for 
>> OneDrive and SkyDrive ever since the backend server was switched to 
>> the Exchange Platform circa Win8 release and backported to support 
>> Windows 7(OneDrive installable program) and Microsoft Win7 included 
>> Security Essentials.
> 
> Thank you. Two groups added and Windows 10 replaced.
> 
> If Microsoft can, and DOES, do this, why does Apple not have a similar 
> ability?
> 
> *Somebody* might know!

Does Microsoft REALLY scan OneDrive for malware?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OneDrive

OneDrive doesn't sound NEARLY as safe from prying eyes as the Apple iCloud!

-- 
David

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