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Re: Last chance for Windows

From Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.security, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Last chance for Windows
Organization Southern Nevada Institute of Technology
References <vniav6$3fcf0$1@dont-email.me> <vnj3a8$3k7in$1@dont-email.me> <m04to1FbmpkU1@mid.individual.net> <m05713FdbhdU1@mid.individual.net>
Date 2025-02-01 01:21 +0000
Message-ID <679d772c$1$2873008$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink)

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On Jan 31, 2025 at 5:09:07 PM MST, "David" wrote
<m05713FdbhdU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 31/01/2025 21:30, David wrote:
>> On 31/01/2025 18:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>>> FromTheRafters wrote on 1/31/25 9:08 AM:
>>>> on 1/31/2025, David supposed :
>>>>> On 31/01/2025 12:41, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> John C. <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> First of all, please note that I'm *not* asking for help in
>>>>>>> dealing with
>>>>>>> any of the issues I mention in this post.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't know why I'm bothering to write this. I guess I'm just
>>>>>>> exasperated with all the problems I've been having with Windows 10
>>>>>>> Pro.
>>>>>>> In all the time I've been using Windows (since 3.0), it's never been
>>>>>>> this bad.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Currently I am suffering from a corrupt user account profile. I don't
>>>>>>> know how this occurred, but I do know how to deal with it. And it's a
>>>>>>> huge task migrating doing so, involving migration of settings to a
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> account. But this isn't the only issue I'm experiencing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I also have a corrupt install of OneDrive on my system. This
>>>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>>>> malware is definitely installed, but I can't remove it because
>>>>>>> it's not
>>>>>>> listed in Programs and Features or Settings/Apps. Thus, I can't
>>>>>>> uninstall it. And yes, this Microsoft malware exists on my SSD but
>>>>>>> attempting to simply delete its folders fails. And no, I don't have a
>>>>>>> malware infection from another source.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This second problem is so bad, that I'm now going to have to do a
>>>>>>> completely fresh reinstall of W10 Pro and all my programs. I know
>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>> do this, so PLEASE, no advice. I already have researched this ad
>>>>>>> nauseum.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So here's what I have to say:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> IMHO, here are reasons why Windows has reached a point where it's no
>>>>>>> longer a viable operating system for me:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Windows code has gotten so complex that at this point, it's
>>>>>>> impossible
>>>>>>> for Microsoft to maintain.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Forced updates have cause issues for so many end-users, that many
>>>>>>> people have simply given up and moved to either Apple or Linux.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Feature elimination and overall regressions in functionality have
>>>>>>> led
>>>>>>> to to a failure on the part of the OS to do its job.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Microsoft's not-so-hidden agendas of:
>>>>>>> 1. being so obsessed with maximizing their profits that they see end
>>>>>>> users basically only as opponent to that goal
>>>>>>> 2. acquiring information about end users WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION
>>>>>>> 3. cooperating with three-letter-agencies around the world to provide
>>>>>>> them with that information
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> continually lead to their making seriously bad OS development
>>>>>>> choices.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And now, on top of all this, Microsoft has been taken over by the
>>>>>>> country of India. If you don't believe me, of course you're free to
>>>>>>> disagree but IMO you're simply wrong. This takeover is blatantly
>>>>>>> obvious
>>>>>>> to anybody with half a brain.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> At any rate, this fresh reinstall of Windows that I'm about to embark
>>>>>>> upon is the last chance I will be giving to Microsoft and Windows.
>>>>>>> If it
>>>>>>> fails for *any* reason, I will follow others in migrating away it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would certainly recommend macOS because for those of us that have
>>>>>> to use
>>>>>> MS tools for work they are much more stable on macOS. I think it's
>>>>>> to do
>>>>>> with the fact they can't have hooks all over the OS like they do in
>>>>>> windows
>>>>>> so stick to their corner and just work. That does include oneDrive and
>>>>>> Sharepoint.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you know, Chris, I migrated to macOS when I bought my first iMac in
>>>>> 2009. Just as you say, for the most part, my Mac "just works"!
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I did NOT realise, until this past week, is that Microsoft's
>>>>> oneDrive is the equivalent of Apple's iCloud!
>>>> 
>>>> Equivalent meaning 'cloud storage' then yes.
>>>> 
>>>>> Am I right in thinking that neither Microsoft, nor any third-party
>>>>> scanner, can access and scan for malware any file stored in/on
>>>>> 'oneDrive'?
>>>> 
>>>> Unless the scanner also cracks the encryption, which they cannot,
>>>> scanning won't find anything. You should decrypt and scan locally
>>>> before executing.
>>>> 
>>>>> In other words, a great place for malware to hide!
>>>> 
>>>> Data at rest cannot do anything untoward.
>>> 
>>> OneDrive
>>>   => Files are scanned by the Exchange Platform's Windows Defender
>>> Storage when uploaded, opened, and downloaded. If Windows is the
>>> upload source or download recipient, Windows Security(included
>>> Defender) also scans the files(before upload, before local save or
>>> sync). Additionally, unless excluded, automatic Windows Security
>>> 'Quick Scan', or manual 'Full Scan', scans OneDrive local
>>> folder(existing, synced files). Windows Security 'Custom Scan' scans
>>> the user choice of files and/or folders.
>> 
>> Of this I was completely unaware.
>> 
>> If Microsoft can do this (and I have no reason to doubt your word) it
>> doesn't take too much imagination to recognise that, if they wish,
>> Microsoft can monitor and understand everything that a computer user
>> does if the user connects their computer to the Internet.
>> 
>> 
>>> Windows 10 group removed. Not Win10 unique, its been the same for
>>> OneDrive and SkyDrive ever since the backend server was switched to
>>> the Exchange Platform circa Win8 release and backported to support
>>> Windows 7(OneDrive installable program) and Microsoft Win7 included
>>> Security Essentials.
>> 
>> Thank you. Two groups added and Windows 10 replaced.
>> 
>> If Microsoft can, and DOES, do this, why does Apple not have a similar
>> ability?
>> 
>> *Somebody* might know!
> 
> Does Microsoft REALLY scan OneDrive for malware?

Been covered: it is encrypted so it cannot be scanned.

> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OneDrive
> 
> OneDrive doesn't sound NEARLY as safe from prying eyes as the Apple iCloud!

It likely is not. Apple focuses heavily on privacy (and even they make goofs).


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