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Re: Last chance for Windows

From David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.security, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Last chance for Windows
Date 2025-02-04 22:45 +0000
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On 01/02/2025 08:24, David wrote:
[....]

> Have you ever reviewed the work of Patrick Wardle?
> 
> Do you read articles like this?
> https://9to5mac.com/2025/01/02/what-malware-your-mac-can-remove/
> 
> Patrick Wardle is a well-respected security researcher with extensive 
> experience in macOS security. His research has demonstrated that Macs 
> **can** be vulnerable to malware, particularly through social 
> engineering, supply chain attacks, and unpatched vulnerabilities. While 
> macOS has strong built-in security features (such as Gatekeeper, 
> XProtect, and System Integrity Protection), these defenses are *not 
> foolproof*
> 
> The Apple Support Communities View
> 
> Many contributors to the Apple Support Communities forums believe that 
> third-party antivirus (AV) software is unnecessary for macOS, often 
> arguing that:
> 1. **macOS has built-in security** that is sufficient for most users.
> 2. **AV software can cause system slowdowns** and compatibility issues.
> 3. **Mac malware is rare compared to Windows malware** and is usually 
> preventable by practicing good security hygiene.
> 4. **Some AV software itself can be invasive** and may create more 
> security risks than it mitigates.
> 
> My View
> 
> Both perspectives have merit. Whether a Mac user *needs* additional 
> anti-malware software depends on their use case.
> 
> - **If you only download software from the Mac App Store or trusted 
> sources, avoid shady websites, and practice good security habits, 
> Apple's built-in defenses may be sufficient.**
> - **If you frequently install third-party software, open email 
> attachments from unknown sources, or engage in high-risk activities 
> (e.g., software development, cybersecurity research), additional 
> security layers may be justified.**
> 
> For *everyday users*, I think using tools like Malwarebytes (free for 
> manual scans) or Patrick Wardle’s free security tools (e.g., LuLu, 
> KnockKnock, and RansomWhere?) can add lightweight protection without 
> causing system slowdowns.
> 
> For power users or businesses, tools like Objective-See’s security 
> suite, ClamXAV, or even a full-fledged enterprise solution might be 
> warranted.
> 
> *Would you agree with this balanced approach*?

I really would welcome your further thoughts!

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