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Re: Can a Machine become self-aware?

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Jan Panteltje wrote:
> 
> >The Starmaker wrote:
> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 07:51:19 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are you aware Jan that not only
> >>> you have 'no self-awareness' but also
> >>> you have no free will?
> >>
> >>
> >> That which you believe is "self-awarness"...
> >> according to Albert Einstein is simply an..."optical delusion".
> >>
> >> And Albert Einstein also said:"...I do not believe in free will."
> >
> >----------------------------------------
> >
> >How could he say that, if he had no free will?
> 
> Albert E. was a fraud.
> The religious fanatic YouWitz genocide club worships him as a got
> because he wrote a letter to president Roosevelt to make a bomb to commit genocide on Japanese civilians.
> Albert One Stone's way of reasoning was already proven wrong by Alain Aspect many years ago.
> 
> To keep it simple again, the simplest explanation I come up with is:
> Le Sage particles (that cause gravity) travel at the speed of light,
> and some state of those particles (spin?) is what we experience as EM radiation.
> So basically EM radiation and gravity are passed on by the same particle.
> If you mess with electrons then you give locally a spin? (have an effect on) the Le Sage particles
> and those modified particles is what we perceive as light.
> Yet those modified gravity particles transfer a mechanical force too (solar sail).
> Very simple, explains everything.
> In deep space (as far as we know about it) the flux of Le Sage particles compresses matter...
> Near a heavy object (earth) this flux is lower (Le Sage particle partly intercepted by Earth) and matter gets less compressed, electron orbits get wider,
> the pendulum becomes longer, clocks move slower.
> Very simple.
> At some point all Le Sage particle are intercepted in case of an ever larger mass, no singularities! No silly divide by zero crap.
> No strings attached.
> Simple mechanics.,
> 
> Do I have free will? Am I free Willy? Maybe its because I come from a family of watch makers?
> Frauds like Albert E are a disgrace to science and a big hurdle that you humming beans will have to overcome
> to UNDERSTAND nature.
> Where do Le Sage particles come from? From inside processes in stars or other celestial objects?
> If so the universe should push itself apart!
> Is seems to do so.
> If Le Sage particles (and so light) are the same thing, then gravity should move at the speed of light.
> It seems that has been confirmed.
> What keeps the electron moving around the nucleus in atoms?
> What is 'charge'? only a small step for men to open the eyes and now SEE.
> I have always been a rebel.
> 
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage%27s_theory_of_gravitation


a rebel with the optical delusion of self-awarness...


so the gorilla looks in the mirror but the
mirror is broken..
who is the third gorilla

am i 3?



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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