Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, alt.atheism
Subject	Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
Date	2024-05-31 12:11 -0700
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Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 22:16:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <66595D33.145C@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Attila < wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> >> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> >> >> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
> >> >> >> >> existence of any god.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have not looked everywhere.  Have you?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
> >> >>
> >> >> Probably not.  What are the conditions for obtaining one?  I
> >> >> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
> >> >> >you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
> >> >> >what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "Oh, look!  A pile of poop!  That proves there is a god!"
> >> >> "Oh, look!  A rock!  That proves there is a god!"
> >> >> "Oh, look!  A bug!  That proves there is a god!"
> >> >> "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
> >> >>
> >> >> Take your pick.  For some that is all the evidence that is
> >> >> needed.
> >> >
> >> >I think you are not understanding...
> >>
> >> So you say.  I require a bit more.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >God is everywhere, but
> >> >You cannot look everywhere at once.
> >> >
> >> >I didn't say "Look over there."
> >> >
> >> >If you look over there you might see a rock..
> >> >
> >> >but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
> >> >
> >> >God is everywhere, not ...over there.
> >> >
> >> >A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
> >>
> >> I rest my case.
> >
> >
> >I have to applaud your efforts on your search for God and seeing ... A
> >ham sandwich!
> 
> What makes you think I am searching for any god?
> 
> The ham sandwich is what some others accept as sufficient
> evidence.  Thus proving nuts are everywhere.

Chock full o'Nuts is that heavenly coffee!...


Since your quest to find proof of God led you to a...ham sandwich, I
have to go by what your eyes see.

Maybe you found God in a ham sandwich.


So, to continue, I need to use your ham sandwich as proof of God.


If you go to the store
to buy Ham, and you get home
and realize you forgot to
buy the bread...

and you take the Ham out
of the packaging
and eat it, it's not
a ham sandwich.

You need at least
two slices of bread
to make a ham sandwich.

If you have 
two slices of bread
you can make the
ham sandwich,
a chicken sandwich
a grilled cheese sandwich
a BLT
a hamburger sandwich
even
a hotdog sandwich!

So, a sandwich
is a ...creation.

It's an arrangement...

you create a sandwich
that looks like a
sandwich...

I mean, you saw a
ham sandwich
which means it had to
have at least two
slices of bread on it
to be considered
a sandwich...
a ham sandwich.

It is simply
a creation, an
arrangement
of materials on
earth to create
what appears
to you to be
a ham sandwich.

You change the
arrangement and
it could easily be
a hotdog sandwich.

Now, look out your
window...do you see
that tree over there?

It's not a tree.








  











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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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