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Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> On 12/22/2023 11:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
> > perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?
> 
> This "quote" doesn't make sense. Are you again playing around with what
> Sagan said or didn't say? :)
> 
> Did you get your quotes, all, from Cosmos or did you use earlier stuff
> published by him as well?
> 
> Cosmos was printed in 1980, a few years _after_ Russian probes on Venus
> reported what was going on and that the possibility of life in those
> condition were zilch.


This post is about the word "perhaps". You're unable to focus.

Do I gotta post the whole book so you can get unfocus again?

The absence of anything to see on Venus led some scientists to 
the curious conclusion that the surface was a swamp, like the 
Earth in the Carboniferous Period. The argument—if we can 
dignify it by such a word—went something like this: 

“I can’t see a thing on Venus.” 

“Why not?” 

“Because it’s totally covered with clouds.” 

“What are clouds made of?” 

“Water, of course.” 

“Then why are the clouds of Venus thicker than the 
clouds on Earth?” 

“Because there’s more water there.” 

“But if there is more water in the clouds, there must be 
more water on the surface. What kind of surfaces are very- 
wet: 

swamps. 

And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and 
perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus? Observation: There was ab- 
solutely nothing to see on Venus. Conclusion: It must be covered 
with life. The featureless clouds of Venus reflected our own 
predispositions. We are alive, and we resonate with the idea of 
life elsewhere. But only careful accumulation and assessment of 
the evidence can tell us whether a given world is inhabited. 
Venus turns out not to oblige our predispositions.





Does that help you understand the word "perhaps"?





PERHAPS


per·haps
/p?r'(h)aps/
adverb
used to express uncertainty or possibility.

https://www.google.com/search?q=define+perhaps


Perhaps.

Carl Sagan was a con artist. Instead of saying "possibility", he
would say over and over..."perhaps".


They say that Carl Sagan only wrote one science fiction book, Contact.

Cosmos is one of the bestselling science books of all time!

Is it science fiction or non-fiction????

Perhaps it's really a science fiction book.


just a few Quotes from the book Cosmos by Carl Sagan:



In all the galaxies, there are
perhaps as many planets as stars

Perhaps many stars have planetary systems rather like
our own: at the periphery, great gaseous ringed planets and icy
moons, and nearer to the center, small, warm, blue-white, cloud-
covered worlds.

 Perhaps some day we will know them.

Perhaps the origin and evolution of life is, given enough
time, a cosmic inevitability.

The fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a
Great Designer; perhaps some species are destroyed when the
Designer becomes dissatisfied with them, and new experiments
are attempted on an improved design.


 We know from the fossil record that the origin of life
happened soon after, perhaps around 4.0 billion years ago, in the
ponds and oceans of the primitive Earth.

Perhaps there are
many other planets that today have abundant microbes but no
big beasts and vegetables.

Isaac Newton was perhaps
the greatest scientific genius who ever lived.

 Perhaps it was
a spaceship of some unimaginably advanced extraterrestrial

And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?

Perhaps there was an engineering failure just at the moment of
touchdown. Or perhaps there is something particularly danger-
ous about the Martian surface.

Perhaps there are large lifeforms on Mars, but not in our two
landing sites. Perhaps there are smaller forms in every rock and
sand grain.

perhaps even many of the same
basic molecules, such as proteins and nucleic acids—but put to-
gether in unfamiliar ways. Perhaps organisms that float in dense
planetary atmospheres will be very much like us in their atomic
composition, except they might not have bones and therefore
not need much calcium. Perhaps elsewhere some solvent other
than water is used.

 Perhaps time itself
has many potential dimensions, despite the fact that we are con-
demned to experience only one of them.

magic gravity machine—a device with which we could control
the Earth’s gravity, perhaps by turning a dial.

But perhaps more interesting is the question of higher dimen-
sions. Could there be a fourth physical dimension?



I'm not even halfway with these "perhaps"/ uncertainty or possibility
quotes from this just one book Cosmos...


There is nothing in Carls Sagan book Cosmos that is truly non-fiction.


It's ALL science fintion!


magic gravity machine?

dats non-fiction, right?  give me a break!



There is a higher  fourth physical dimension.'...


That's the signpost up ahead—your next stop, the Twilight Zone!





 



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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