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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800 |
| Last post | 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800 |
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ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
Re: ww2 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
Re: ww3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
Re: ww3 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-20 14:26 +0100
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-21 07:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-22 09:19 +0100
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-23 11:54 +0100
Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-23 14:12 +0100
Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-23 22:15 +0100
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 14:15 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-24 09:01 +0100
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 10:35 -0800
Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-24 20:49 +0100
Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-25 10:29 +0100
Re: ww3 Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:01 +0000
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-25 12:14 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:16 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:18 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:22 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:12 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:50 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:51 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:39 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:45 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 23:02 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:03 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:08 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:11 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:13 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:41 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 07:04 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:51 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 13:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:05 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 20:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-19 20:49 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:18 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:56 -0500
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0700
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 23:06 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-13 10:46 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 02:23 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:09 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 21:27 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:25 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:24 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:36 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:50 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:11 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:12 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 12:53 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:10 -0700
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:15 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:45 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:58 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-22 05:39 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 02:50 -0600
Re: ww3 patdolan@comcast.net (patdolan) - 2025-01-19 03:01 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0036oj5oomu74gj9cni2tbgu1l8kp3dr2j@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660218 |
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:39:51 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:19 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> You didn't understand, what I tried to explain. >>> >>> If you (Nato in this case) have troops in the eastern Ukraine, you need >>> to support them somehow. >>> >>> To do this, you need some kind of base in that region, where supply >>> could land. >>> >>> You could supply your bases by land, air or sea. >> >> It is you who does not understand. By international treaty, a NATO member >> controls the Bosporus and three NATO members have ports on the Black. Four NATO >> members share land borders with Ukraine. >> >> Yes, NATO will supply it's bases by land, air and sea. It's western supply and >> logistics vs Russian supply and logistics. >> > >Once the Nato does, we have WWIII. So? >The Russians will inevitably sink all NATO warships, entering the Black >Sea (treaty or not), because they would regard this as Nato attack on >the Russian main land. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! They can't even keep their own ships afloat in the Black! LOL! >In case of Nato I wouldn't sail there, because the Russians have all >means necessary to destroy Nato ships and have incentive to do that. NATO has no need to place ships in the Black since there are so many NATO land bases within easy reach of most of Russia west of the Urals. Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey already have their Navies in place there should any naval action be needed. Not that it would. Ukraine, a nation without a navy has already defeated the Russian Black Seafloor Fleet. >Possibly the Russians have mercy with smaller boats, sailing to Romania. > >But if a carrier shows up there, they would sink it. Again, you prove your ignorance. Not only are carriers not allowed through the Bosporus, there is no need of any carriers in the Black. >Maybe I'm wrong, Of course you are. >because in the end I'm not an expert. You're not even a dilettante. You're nothing but ignorant. >But I would not recommend to check that out. In order to sink a ship, Russia will first need working ship attack missiles.
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <5gntnjtjmsktqi4e59rnh959jaaqf16liu@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660168 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >The option 'sea' is hindered by the Russian control over the black sea >(caused by Russian batteries on the Crimean peninsula). LOL! Such is Russia's control over the Black that it's fleet is hiding in the Sea of Azov! LOL!
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <luepfdFib4lU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660177 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:21 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> The option 'sea' is hindered by the Russian control over the black sea >> (caused by Russian batteries on the Crimean peninsula). > > LOL! Such is Russia's control over the Black that it's fleet is hiding in the > Sea of Azov! LOL! > Russians do not need ships, because they can place their batteries on the Krim. This peninsula is unsinkable, while Nato ships are not. Therefore it is an unsymmetrical situation, where the Russians have all the advantages and Nato has very few. It's similar to chess, where you have a certain kind of defense system. This is already in place, well manned and well armed. It would be REALLY silly, if western military would ignore the possibility, that Russians have prepared already for a war in the Black Sea. (btw: Russians are experts in chess) TH
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vluhtd$onb3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #660219 |
Thomas Heger wrote: >> >> LOL! Such is Russia's control over the Black that it's fleet is >> hiding in the >> Sea of Azov! LOL! >> > > Russians do not need ships, because they can place their batteries > on the Krim. > > This peninsula is unsinkable, while Nato ships are not. > > Therefore it is an unsymmetrical situation, where the Russians > have all the advantages and Nato has very few. > The Romanian, Bulgarian, and Turkish navies are hiding in the Mediterranean with no access to the Black Sea. And because none of these three have any land near the Black Sea where they could build missile batteries. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1f36oj98pajvbb2100o86togf9lcnjgtb7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660219 |
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:46:39 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:21 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> The option 'sea' is hindered by the Russian control over the black sea >>> (caused by Russian batteries on the Crimean peninsula). >> >> LOL! Such is Russia's control over the Black that it's fleet is hiding in the >> Sea of Azov! LOL! >> > >Russians do not need ships, because they can place their batteries on >the Krim. Not that putting them there is helpful. Ukraine keeps knocking them out. >This peninsula is unsinkable, while Nato ships are not. You really have a fascination for sailors. One more time, why would NATO need aircraft carriers in the Black, even if they were allowed to move them there? >Therefore it is an unsymmetrical situation, where the Russians have all >the advantages and Nato has very few. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! NATO has 31 member states plus the active support of dozens of others. Russia has Iran, North Korea and Nicaragua. <giggle> >It's similar to chess, where you have a certain kind of defense system. > >This is already in place, well manned and well armed. > >It would be REALLY silly, if western military would ignore the >possibility, that Russians have prepared already for a war in the Black Sea. If they were prepared for war in the Black Sea, they would not have abandoned Sevastopol and hidden their fleet in the Azov and Novorossiysk. >(btw: Russians are experts in chess) War is not chess.
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0nllnjlgqim75idc0vino0m4tocrnfscip@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660086 |
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >the Ukrainian military. That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. -- Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide." Well, they did. Get over it.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu3schFphgoU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660117 |
Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >> the Ukrainian military. > > That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. > > "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. > The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret service in the World: the KGB. The KGB had agents everywhere. And there is absolutely no reason at all to think, that they had no agents in the Ukraine. Actually nothings would be easier than that, because Ukraine is just 'next door', was formerly part of the same nation USSR, they share the same history and speak mostly the same language. To place a new FSB-agent there wouldn't cost much more than a train ticket and a false passport. TH
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6dsrnjd9k4ukogs15ud51fkat35jdqmn0d@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660139 |
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 06:28:52 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >>> the Ukrainian military. >> >> That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. >> >> "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. >> >The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >service in the World: the KGB. > >The KGB had agents everywhere. And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible example of KGB/Russian incompetence. >And there is absolutely no reason at all to think, that they had no >agents in the Ukraine. And no reason to think Ukraine has no agents in Russia. Lots of sabotage going on deep in the country. >Actually nothings would be easier than that, because Ukraine is just >'next door', was formerly part of the same nation USSR, they share the >same history and speak mostly the same language. So do the US and Canada but you don't see us invading them. >To place a new FSB-agent there wouldn't cost much more than a train >ticket and a false passport. Then we can just watch and wait for him to do something stupid - which shouldn't take long.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu6pldF90rcU13@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660161 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 04:34 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 06:28:52 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: >>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>> >>>> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >>>> the Ukrainian military. >>> >>> That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. >>> >>> "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. >>> >> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >> service in the World: the KGB. >> >> The KGB had agents everywhere. > > And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible > example of KGB/Russian incompetence. Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. For instance, most chess world-champions in history were actually Russians. I personally guess, that KGB was successful in a lot of cases, but not with everything they tried. But KGB kept silent, even after the operations, hence we cannot really know, how successful they have been. But my guess is: they have been quite successful. > >> And there is absolutely no reason at all to think, that they had no >> agents in the Ukraine. > > And no reason to think Ukraine has no agents in Russia. Lots of sabotage going > on deep in the country. Sure, but western agent were not very often successful in the former USSR. Don't know why, because that is not really my field of expertise. But I have heard, that Russians were quite good in detecting agents. > >> Actually nothings would be easier than that, because Ukraine is just >> 'next door', was formerly part of the same nation USSR, they share the >> same history and speak mostly the same language. > > So do the US and Canada but you don't see us invading them. I have heard recently, the new president wants just that. (He also allegedly wants Greenland for some odd reasons.) >> To place a new FSB-agent there wouldn't cost much more than a train >> ticket and a false passport. > > Then we can just watch and wait for him to do something stupid - which shouldn't > take long. I don't know, but I would guess, that tons of Russian agents are already operating in the Ukraine. TH
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vllfc8$2n7ub$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #660167 |
Thomas Heger wrote: >>> >>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >> >> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as >> the most visible >> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. > > Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. Are they hiding under my bed? -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu99i1Fm4jfU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660170 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 10:09 schrieb Siri Cruise: > Thomas Heger wrote: >>>> >>>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >>> >>> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the >>> most visible >>> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. >> >> Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. > > Are they hiding under my bed? > Certainly not. Nobody wants to hide there. TH
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mintnj1aspm3vn8ld18p0lobonv71tgmru@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660167 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:00:49 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 04:34 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 06:28:52 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: >>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >>>>> the Ukrainian military. >>>> >>>> That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. >>>> >>>> "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. >>>> >>> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >>> service in the World: the KGB. >>> >>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >> >> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible >> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. > >Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. Being smart in Russia gets you a one way ticket to the gulag or a bullet in your brain at the Czar's pleasure. This is why Russians are so stupid. They've been killing off their best and brightest for decades on account of suspected loyalty issues.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <677F11CB.359C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #660178 |
Governor Swill wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:00:49 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > > >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 04:34 schrieb Governor Swill: > >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 06:28:52 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> > >>> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: > >>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of > >>>>> the Ukrainian military. > >>>> > >>>> That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. > >>>> > >>>> "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. > >>>> > >>> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret > >>> service in the World: the KGB. > >>> > >>> The KGB had agents everywhere. > >> > >> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible > >> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. > > > >Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. > > Being smart in Russia gets you a one way ticket to the gulag or a bullet in your > brain at the Czar's pleasure. > > This is why Russians are so stupid. They've been killing off their best and > brightest for decades on account of suspected loyalty issues. Maybe you've been Governor too long and don't understand Russian mentality..but, anyone suspected of loyalty issues should be shot on sight retgardless of their best brigntness. Trump wants only Loyal people around him, not smarty pants. If you're not loyal, I'd be happy to throw you and your mother out the window...women first of course. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <luepl9Fib4lU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660178 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:23 schrieb Governor Swill: >>>> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >>>> service in the World: the KGB. >>>> >>>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >>> >>> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible >>> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. >> >> Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. > > Being smart in Russia gets you a one way ticket to the gulag or a bullet in your > brain at the Czar's pleasure. Well, what you describe was Stalin. But Stalin wasn't Russian. He was actually a professional bank robber from Georgia. They don't have a Czar in Russia neither. ... TH
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pn36oj5roj7scu048i0iahi0v3bp78l30h@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660220 |
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:49:47 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:23 schrieb Governor Swill: > >>>>> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >>>>> service in the World: the KGB. >>>>> >>>>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >>>> >>>> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible >>>> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. >>> >>> Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. >> >> Being smart in Russia gets you a one way ticket to the gulag or a bullet in your >> brain at the Czar's pleasure. > >Well, what you describe was Stalin. So Putin's staircases, open windows and radioactive poisons don't count? Btw, where is Navalny? >But Stalin wasn't Russian. He was actually a professional bank robber >from Georgia. > >They don't have a Czar in Russia neither. Yeah, they do, and his name is Vladimir Putin.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ltpj44F3s91U10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660001 |
Am Mittwoch000001, 01.01.2025 um 10:58 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 00:14:34 -0700, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> Most likely Trump already amde a peace deal with Putin, otherwise >> >> Which he can't legally do as a civilian. > > Stop knee jerking, people. Trump is sending signals that he is possibly even > more hawkish than Biden on Ukraine. Kellogg has stated that the planned peace > proposition requires Russia and Ukraine to both lay down they arms. Refusal by > either side carries consequences. If Ukraine refuses to engage in peace talks, > the US will stop supporting them. Otoh, if Russia refuses to engage in peace > talks, Trump will arm Ukraine to the teeth without restrictions. > Putin said on TV, that he wanted to start peace talks. It were the Ukrainians, who rejected peace talks. The Ukrainians wanted to 'win', but have no real chance against the superpower Russia. Whether or not the Nato had, that would be a good question. I would think, that Russia is already in a very good strategic position and even the entire Nato cannot push them back from there. The reason: Russia could sent many million soldiers very easily to the front, while Nato troops had to be brought there. This is difficult, because the Nato would need ships, but the Russians control the Crimean peninsula and with it the entire Black Sea. Now Nato troops could only be brought by ship over the Baltic Sea. But that is very narrow, shallow and too far away. So, in effect, Nato troops could only come from the west on land, e.g. from Poland. But that would be LOOOOOOONG (!!!) and dangerous (!!!!) walk, because Ukraine is very large and flat and provides no mountains as protective cover at all. Travel by air is also not recommended, because Russia has state of the art air defense systems. The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are mostly old. But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly difficult to defeat. TH
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qtnlnjl6miu3iujfoimlgrf4lqs8g4mbo3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660065 |
On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are mostly old. >But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly difficult >to defeat. Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at the parade? -- Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide." Well, they did. Get over it.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu3te8FphgoU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660119 |
Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are mostly old. >> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly difficult >> to defeat. > > Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at the parade? > I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. TH
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vlimt8$23v7r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #660141 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> >> wrote: >> >>> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are >>> mostly old. >>> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly >>> difficult >>> to defeat. >> >> Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at >> the parade? >> > > I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. > > That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. > > TH > > Some assembly required. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu6ns4F90rcU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660144 |
Am Dienstag000007, 07.01.2025 um 08:59 schrieb Siri Cruise: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: >>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>> >>>> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are mostly old. >>>> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly difficult >>>> to defeat. >>> >>> Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at the >>> parade? >>> >> >> I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. >> >> That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. >> >> TH >> >> > > Some assembly required. > But tanks are very difficult to build. I've heard, it would take two years to build one. It it's also very expensive. TH
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