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| Started by | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-10-05 16:55 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-11-02 10:38 +0100 |
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Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-10-05 16:55 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-10-05 17:29 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-10-05 18:57 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-06 18:32 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2023-10-06 13:46 -0300
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-06 12:41 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-10-06 16:20 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-14 09:22 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-10-14 14:13 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-14 15:07 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-15 07:59 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 10:49 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-14 15:03 +0200
Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-14 06:04 -0700
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-15 08:00 +0200
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Reilies Bahmutov <orem@moeaueva.eb> - 2023-10-15 09:17 +0000
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 16:20 -0500
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-16 07:25 +0200
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Randale Babaitsev <bavv@bsrbiiva.va> - 2023-10-16 17:12 +0000
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-16 20:40 -0500
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Dono at work Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-17 08:42 +0200
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Dono at work Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-17 19:40 -0500
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Thaddeus Gorbachov <hdat@ecaagduh.dh> - 2023-10-17 13:05 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 07:45 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-15 22:09 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 15:22 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 22:08 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-17 08:50 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-17 11:31 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-18 07:53 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-18 10:53 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-18 02:34 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-19 10:29 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-19 12:04 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-21 06:48 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-21 10:55 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-10-21 12:53 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-21 20:50 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-21 17:18 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-22 10:38 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 08:45 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 18:18 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-23 15:33 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 08:36 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 08:05 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-23 08:36 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 09:37 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-24 09:04 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Hilton Babloev <ovlb@lnltoltl.ot> - 2023-10-24 12:09 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-24 18:44 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 15:32 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-25 14:49 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-26 07:40 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 07:31 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-27 11:58 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-27 07:09 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-28 07:38 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 09:13 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-29 08:46 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-10-29 15:17 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 22:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-30 08:25 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-03 01:03 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-03 08:53 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-03 11:50 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-05 07:48 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-05 10:52 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-01-13 07:59 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-30 08:12 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-31 07:50 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-31 08:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-31 11:07 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-01 07:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-11-01 10:50 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Aldo Gorbunov Posadov <svog@lgoavuod.bs> - 2023-11-01 21:56 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-02 07:59 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-02 08:49 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-03 01:06 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-03 08:45 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-03 12:07 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 18:07 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-04 08:41 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Phong Abulmambetoff <buhm@fehumhof.ma> - 2023-11-04 09:41 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-05 07:38 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Kyl Babadzhan <zbah@dblankly.ka> - 2023-11-05 13:19 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Meredith Vyskrebtsov <yses@veshrmhe.hv> - 2023-11-05 13:33 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-05 08:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-05 10:41 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-06 09:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-06 15:09 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-07 08:44 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-07 09:11 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-08 07:43 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 08:45 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-09 07:42 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-09 13:19 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 11:35 -0800
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-10 09:08 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-12 01:16 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-12 14:13 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Randolph Tchekomasov <ndop@trsehaho.co> - 2023-11-07 11:23 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-08 07:42 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Stanton Behoev <nteo@htnbbhhn.et> - 2023-11-08 11:49 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-09 07:47 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 18:08 -0600
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-08 02:48 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-09 07:56 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-31 10:43 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-21 17:09 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-21 17:28 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Humberto Babakhanoff <khub@ofahorak.hu> - 2023-10-22 12:52 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Daryll Shahtmeister <ihsa@eidssrii.hs> - 2023-10-18 11:50 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-11-02 12:09 +1100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-02 08:21 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-11-02 10:38 +0100
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| From | Randolph Tchekomasov <ndop@trsehaho.co> |
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| Date | 2023-11-07 11:23 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <uid6ob$1blfg$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #623790 |
Thomas Heger wrote: >> No, not so. The closest is to have a hypothesis on how something >> happens, but the hypothesis has no value until you perform an >> observation or experiment which supports (or refutes) it. > > Sure, the hypothesis needs to fit to the observations. you don't need obs to have a hypothesis. That's why you have hypothesis and not facts. ๐ง๐ฟ๐๐บ๐ฝ_๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐ฝ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ๐_๐๐ผ_๐ญ๐ฒ๐น๐ฒ๐ป๐๐ธ๐โ๐_๐ถ๐ป๐๐ถ๐๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป_๐๐ผ_๐จ๐ธ๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ_โ_๐บ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฎ The former US president has reportedly turned down the Ukrainian leaderโs offer of a meeting in Kiev https://r%74.com/news/586717-trump-declines-zelensky-invitation/ Oh, so Trump has a great respect for the gay actor "President" Zelensky, the ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐?? Now, why am I not surprised? Because, as I have said before, Donald Trump is arguably the most pro_๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ president in U.S. history. Donald Trump grew up with ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐s, associated with them, gave money to their causes, and employed them. Trumpโs daughter Ivanka converted to ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ism in 2008 before marrying ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish real estate developer Jared Kushner. She married an Orthodox ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐. They now have three children. Kushner was also part of a group that bought ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ insurer Phoenix for $500 million. Donald Trump speaks with pride concerning his ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish grandchildren. Ivanka is said to contribute to Chabad, to ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish Ritual Baths [mikvaoth], and to ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish Medical Emergency Aid services. Ivanka observes the Sabbath and the dietary laws. The eldest son of Donald is Donald Trump Jr. He married model Vanessa Kay Haydon who is reported to be of ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish and Danish descent. They have 5 children. Another son of Donald, Eric Frederick Trump, married Lara Lea Yunaska under a "crystal-embellished chuppah" i.e., a ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish marriage canopy. Lara Lea is also reported to be ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish and worked for a ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish news service. Donald Trump continued the family tradition of investing in ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish causes but extended it to Palestine as well. In the 1980s the ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ish residents of Northern Sinai were forced to relocate as a result of the peace agreement with Egypt. Trump donated to their resettlement, and also gave generously to the ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐s expelled from Gush Katif in 2005. More controversially, Trump donated $10,000 to American Friends of Beit El Institutions, a fund for religious institutions in Samaria, effectively taking sides in the political dispute in Palestine regarding the legitimacy of ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐โs settlements in Palestine and Samaria. It is also well-known that Donald Trump has been a long-time friend of ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ polaker Prime Minister ๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ท๐ฎ๐บ๐ถ๐ป_๐ก๐ฒ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐๐ฎ๐ต๐ , but it is less known that this friendship began with Fred Trump, the presidentโs father, who befriended ๐ก๐ฒ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐๐ฎ๐ต๐ while he was the ๐ธ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ_๐ด๐ผ๐ polaker Ambassador to the United Nations in Manhattan.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-11-08 07:42 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <kr0op4FcmifU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #623792 |
Am 07.11.2023 um 12:23 schrieb Randolph Tchekomasov: > Thomas Heger wrote: > >>> No, not so. The closest is to have a hypothesis on how something >>> happens, but the hypothesis has no value until you perform an >>> observation or experiment which supports (or refutes) it. >> >> Sure, the hypothesis needs to fit to the observations. > > you don't need obs to have a hypothesis. That's why you have hypothesis > and not facts. > The facts are, what you observe, while the hypothesis is the explanaition for these facts, by which you explain how these facts came into existence. The hypothesis requires some kind of creativity and the facts don't. That's why any idiot can collect facts, while it's not easy to recontruct the correct story from evidence. TH ...
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| From | Stanton Behoev <nteo@htnbbhhn.et> |
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| Date | 2023-11-08 11:49 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <uifsjq$1kclp$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #623810 |
Thomas Heger wrote: >>> Sure, the hypothesis needs to fit to the observations. >> >> you don't need obs to have a hypothesis. That's why you have hypothesis >> and not facts. > > The facts are, what you observe, while the hypothesis is the > explanaition for these facts, by which you explain how these facts came > into existence. you are fooling around. You said ๐ป๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐_๐๐ผ_๐ณ๐ถ๐_๐๐ต๐ฒ_๐ผ๐ฏ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป. Also, facts are rather events, which don't need explanation.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-11-09 07:47 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <kr3df2Fqg41U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #623816 |
Am 08.11.2023 um 12:49 schrieb Stanton Behoev: > Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>> Sure, the hypothesis needs to fit to the observations. >>> >>> you don't need obs to have a hypothesis. That's why you have hypothesis >>> and not facts. >> >> The facts are, what you observe, while the hypothesis is the >> explanaition for these facts, by which you explain how these facts came >> into existence. > > you are fooling around. You said ๐ป๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐_๐๐ผ_๐ณ๐ถ๐_๐๐ต๐ฒ_๐ผ๐ฏ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป. Also, facts are > rather events, which don't need explanation. > Who cares, what you regard as necessary? TH
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-11-08 18:08 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <uih7tt$196f7$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #623810 |
On 11/8/23 00:42, Thomas Heger wrote: > That's why any idiot can collect facts, while it's not easy to > recontruct the correct story from evidence. It can give you a PhD in physics as well :)
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-11-08 02:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <uifegf$1gh77$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623790 |
On 11/7/2023 2:44 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am 06.11.2023 um 21:09 schrieb Volney: > >>>>> Look at the picture AGAIN: >>>>> >>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg/786px-Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg >>>>> > ... >>>>> >>>>> You need to try to locate that hand in the scence, by trying to >>>>> assume, >>>> >>>> I am not going to assume anything. I need to see it. There is no hand. >>>> >>> >>> Assumptions are a very important part of the scientific method and >>> science without assumptions is not science. >>> >>> >>> In any situation, where you try to find out something, you need to >>> make estimates about the possible solutions. >> >> No, not so. The closest is to have a hypothesis on how something >> happens, but the hypothesis has no value until you perform an >> observation or experiment which supports (or refutes) it. > > Sure, the hypothesis needs to fit to the observations. > > But 'to observe' would include to look at something, which was in this > case a certain photography. > > Therefor, I made observations (looked at that picture) and have drawn > conclusions from these observations. > > These conclusions are my hypothesis, which would fit to my observations > and were presented here for discussion. No you go off and assume this nonexistent hand belongs to some female photograph manipulator, when there is no evidence of any sort of thing. > > My hypothesis could be, nevertheless, wrong. It certainly is wrong. > But until now it is a valid > theory, unless somebody proves it wrong. No, you have to prove it valid. You have not done so. > >>> Then you examine your assumptions and select those, which are promising. >>> >>> Then you redo the step of factfinding on the background of your best >>> assumptions and derive new assumptions, which could aqgain be evaluated. >> >> Yet you haven't done that. You have a crazy hypothesis of photographic >> manipulation, which has no supporting evidence. All you have is an >> imagined "hand". > > > The photo itself is evidence enough. OK, the photograph is evidence that there is no hand there. Because I can see that there is no hand there. > > A published picture is irrevocable, because it is printed thousands of > times. > > So: what is on the picture is on it. A book, piece of paper/another book set on a piece of furniture. Probably the camera had a timer and placed on/near the furniture so that everyone in the room could be in the photo when the timer went off and snapped the picture. > > And I can see a blurry female hand in a position, where it should not > belong. > > This is a simple fact and can hardly be disputed. It is a fact that you see a hand? Sure. The human mind is "wired" to recognize certain things that aren't there. Take a yellow circle with two black dots in it and a curved black line. ๐ Voila! A smiley face! No, the mind is wired to recognize faces, it's just a yellow circle with black marks. And you see a hand where there is no hand. Anyway, that photo was taken before Hitler went on trial, so it's not from any prison.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-11-09 07:56 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <kr3dvhFqir6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #623814 |
Am 08.11.2023 um 08:48 schrieb Volney: > On 11/7/2023 2:44 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am 06.11.2023 um 21:09 schrieb Volney: >> >>>>>> Look at the picture AGAIN: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg/786px-Hitler%2C_Maurice%2C_Kriebel%2C_Hess%2C_Weber%2C_prison_de_Landsberg_en_1924.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> >> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> You need to try to locate that hand in the scence, by trying to >>>>>> assume, >>>>> >>>>> I am not going to assume anything. I need to see it. There is no hand. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Assumptions are a very important part of the scientific method and >>>> science without assumptions is not science. >>>> >>>> >>>> In any situation, where you try to find out something, you need to >>>> make estimates about the possible solutions. >>> >>> No, not so. The closest is to have a hypothesis on how something >>> happens, but the hypothesis has no value until you perform an >>> observation or experiment which supports (or refutes) it. >> >> Sure, the hypothesis needs to fit to the observations. >> >> But 'to observe' would include to look at something, which was in this >> case a certain photography. >> >> Therefor, I made observations (looked at that picture) and have drawn >> conclusions from these observations. >> >> These conclusions are my hypothesis, which would fit to my >> observations and were presented here for discussion. > > No you go off and assume this nonexistent hand belongs to some female > photograph manipulator, when there is no evidence of any sort of thing. >> >> My hypothesis could be, nevertheless, wrong. > > It certainly is wrong. > >> But until now it is a valid theory, unless somebody proves it wrong. > > No, you have to prove it valid. You have not done so. >> >>>> Then you examine your assumptions and select those, which are >>>> promising. >>>> >>>> Then you redo the step of factfinding on the background of your best >>>> assumptions and derive new assumptions, which could aqgain be >>>> evaluated. >>> >>> Yet you haven't done that. You have a crazy hypothesis of photographic >>> manipulation, which has no supporting evidence. All you have is an >>> imagined "hand". >> >> >> The photo itself is evidence enough. > > OK, the photograph is evidence that there is no hand there. Because I > can see that there is no hand there. >> >> A published picture is irrevocable, because it is printed thousands of >> times. >> >> So: what is on the picture is on it. > > A book, piece of paper/another book set on a piece of furniture. > Probably the camera had a timer and placed on/near the furniture so that > everyone in the room could be in the photo when the timer went off and > snapped the picture. No. For almost all of my life I had photography as a hobby. I had a darkroom, own numerous cameras and had a few exhibitions of my pictures. I have a lot of training in this realm and can certainly see, how a picture was made. Here I assumed a montage, because the content of the picture is total nonsense to beginn with. Also the montage itself is visible. E.g. the head and the body allegedly depicting Hitler do not fit together and you can see a thin white rim around the head. This alone would be evidence enough, but actually there is much more. This hand shows now tremendous stupidity of the fakers of this picture, because to photograph the own hand in the reproduction of a montage requires just that. ... TH
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-10-31 10:43 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <1qjb1b8.gxdq51mlgzfvN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #623479 |
Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2023-10-28 05:38:49 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > > > Am 27.10.2023 um 11:58 schrieb J. J. Lodder: > >> Dono. <eggy20011951@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:38:10?PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>> > >>>> That makes total sense to me, > >>> > >>> > >>> All along, I thought that you (and RichD) are JUST a couple of pathetic > >>> imbeciles. Now, I realize that you are plain insane. > >> > >> TH's theory posted here some time ago > >> that 'Mein Kampf' was really written by an Englishman > >> (one of the Huxleys) in English, > >> and that Hitler's version was a poor translation > >> wasn't enough to tip you off? > >> > > > > No, that was not my theory! > > > > > > My theory was, that the German version was a relatively poor > > translation from a text, which was origionally written in English. > > How is that different from what Jan said? > > > This conclusion came from a side-by-side comparison of the four English > > versions and the German version. > > > > Because I am a nativ speaker of German and speak English quite well (as > > a second language) I could find subtle inconsitencies in the > > translations, which only make sense, if one of the four English > > versions would be the actual original. > > Examples? > > > > The Huxleys came in from a different inquiry: > > > > there was a guy from New Sealand named Greg Hallet, who wrote a book > > 'Hitler was a British agent'. > > Have a look at https://kingjohnthethird.uk/ to be convinced that Greg > Hallett is a crackpot. I see a similar kind of person in another forum. Whatever the stick is, he invariably and consistently manages to get the wrong end of it. Like our TH, he is quite reliable, like a compass that always points away from the true North. Wherever he points is the wrong way. I don't know how he does it, but some people seem to have that talent, Jan
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| From | RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-21 17:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6549a57e-33de-4969-995a-0c439924da15n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #623194 |
On October 21, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> How does this strike you? A well-brought-up Canadian teenage girl, of
> Chinese ancestry, becomes starry-eyed over Mao Zedong and resolves to
> visit mainland China at all costs. She gets her wish. Not only does she
> visit, she manages to stay on as a student and even do physical labor,
> so great is her determination to be a -good Maoist- [emp. jjl] in a
> Maoist paradise, where the workers always sing, everyone is equal, and
> nobody ever goes without a meal. [she goes there, desillusionment next]
> (review of: Red China Blues_ My Long March from Mao to Now, by Jan Wong)
Elon Musk's "daughter" is a Maoist convert.
("she" was born "he")
--
Rich
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| From | RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-21 17:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <15f2cce4-46d5-47c4-bbd3-52d15aa650d3n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #623194 |
On October 21, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Not only does she visit, she manages to stay on as a student and even > do physical labor, so great is her determination to be a -good Maoist- in a > Maoist paradise, where the workers always sing, everyone is equal, and > nobody ever goes without a meal. Maoist paradise: https://www.cardcow.com/images/set44/card00184_fr.jpg Everyone is equal, everyone works physical labor, everyone is guaranteed three meals and a roof. Not sure about singing - Also the dream of a large portion of the U.S. professiorate - currently cheering Hamas - -- Rich
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| From | Humberto Babakhanoff <khub@ofahorak.hu> |
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| Date | 2023-10-22 12:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uh35u9$tq5e$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #623218 |
RichD wrote: > On October 21, J. J. Lodder wrote: >> Not only does she visit, she manages to stay on as a student and even >> do physical labor, so great is her determination to be a -good Maoist- >> in a Maoist paradise, where the workers always sing, everyone is equal, >> and nobody ever goes without a meal. > > Maoist paradise: https://www.cardcow.com/images/set44/card00184_fr.jpg > Everyone is equal, everyone works physical labor, everyone is guaranteed > three meals and a roof. Not sure about singing - > Also the dream of a large portion of the U.S. professiorate - > currently cheering Hamas - if you want to takeover the world, make it gently.
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| From | Daryll Shahtmeister <ihsa@eidssrii.hs> |
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| Date | 2023-10-18 11:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ugogpq$3q402$2@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #623081 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > The relation between relativity and Marxism is actually beyond my > intellectual horizon. (Hope this is a good reply) Both are WESTERN CRIMINALS. BOTH. Biden a depleted uraniun and a cluster bomb killer, who bombed by NATO and destroyed "peacefully" NordStream 1&2, a Jesuit criminal and Netanyahu are MURDERER. Both are terrorists and SERIAL KILLERS. B๐ถ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ป_๐ฏ๐น๐ฎ๐บ๐ฒ๐_๐ฃ๐ฎ๐น๐ฒ๐๐๐ถ๐ป๐ถ๐ฎ๐ป๐_๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ_๐๐ฎ๐๐ฎ_๐ต๐ผ๐๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐ฎ๐น_๐ฎ๐๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ธ khazar bidon vouched for Israeli innocence in the deadly strike https://r%74.com/news/585237-biden-hospital-israel-blame/ Criminals their children like cocaine In the picture: two corrupt war criminals!! deeply saddened and outragedโ by the incident, which has claimed over 500 lives.. lying SOB... Usually this insane fellow used to blame evil Putin for everything, now he switched on Palestinians, is this guy not only lost his mind he also lost his dignity. the more reason for ICC to capture them both Biden is ๐๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐น๐ ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐๐ผ๐ถ๐ฑ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐ต๐๐บ๐ฎ๐ป ๐ฒ๐บ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐๐ต๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐บ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป. In 2021, Joe Biden blocked ๐ฎ๐น๐น 3 ๐จ๐ก ๐๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ฎ๐ป ๐ถ๐บ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐ฒ in Israel i.e. he deliberately prolonged the bombing, death and destruction inflicted on Gaza by the brutal Israeli ๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ถ๐ฑ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ด๐ถ๐บ๐ฒ. Utterly shameful but no surprise. Tel Aviv thanked Biden for blocking UN statement calling for ceasefire. It's mutual backscratching. Joe Biden said: โI think itโs ๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ผ๐๐ ๐๐ถ๐บ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ ๐๐๐ผ๐ฝ... ๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ผ๐น๐ผ๐ด๐ถ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐๐๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฒ๐น ...It is the best $3 billion investment we make. Were there not an Israel, the United States of America ๐๐ผ๐๐น๐ฑ ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐๐ผ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ ๐ฎ๐ป ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฒ๐น ๐๐ผ ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ ๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐๐ ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ด๐ถ๐ผ๐ป.โ i.e. mutual back- scratching between relentless U.S. empire-building agenda and the Israeli expansionist agenda.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-11-02 12:09 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <kqgb60F62lpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #622529 |
On 06-Oct-23 10:55 am, Richard Hertz wrote: > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras > took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an > entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. > You still seem to be labouring under the impression that people care about exactly who was responsible for which discovery. Sylvia.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-11-02 08:21 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <kqh0q1Fbp8uU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #623635 |
Am 02.11.2023 um 02:09 schrieb Sylvia Else: > On 06-Oct-23 10:55 am, Richard Hertz wrote: >> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, >> Pythagoras >> took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to >> plagiarize an >> entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. >> > > You still seem to be labouring under the impression that people care > about exactly who was responsible for which discovery. Some people actually do. I have recently seen a YouTube video, which claimed, that the theory of Pythogoras stemmed actually from India and was several thousand years older than that ancient Greece, to which Pythagoras belonged. TH
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-11-02 10:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1qjkci5.6ev9l11w2rg1zN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #623635 |
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote: > On 06-Oct-23 10:55 am, Richard Hertz wrote: > > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, > > Pythagoras took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization > > to plagiarize an entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before > > his birth. > > > > You still seem to be labouring under the impression that people care > about exactly who was responsible for which discovery. Sure. And no one ever claimed that Pythagoras 'discovered' the 'Pythagorean theorem' to begin with. The best that may be attributed to him (perhaps) is the discovery of the first general proof. (perhaps the 'Euclidean proof' of Pythagoras, by direct subdivision) And more importantly, Pythagoras may be the inventor of the whole idea of formal axiomatic proof. (which is certainly not Indian or Babylonian) Jan -- https://central.edu/writing-anthology/wp-content/uploads/sites/26/2019/02/18WritingAnthology-23-268x300.png
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