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| Started by | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> |
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| First post | 2022-09-18 22:39 +0000 |
| Last post | 2022-12-07 23:06 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 290 — 33 participants |
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The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-18 22:39 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 17:14 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 17:37 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 17:55 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 23:17 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 19:32 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-09-18 20:12 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-19 09:35 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-19 09:44 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-19 09:53 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-20 13:59 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-09-20 08:23 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-09-19 12:10 +0300
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-19 11:29 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-09-19 19:42 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-09-20 13:18 +0300
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-20 15:15 -0400
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Justus Basurto <trso@subsrbob.au> - 2022-09-20 19:34 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Justus Basurto <trso@subsrbob.au> - 2022-09-20 19:47 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Justus Basurto <trso@subsrbob.au> - 2022-09-20 19:54 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-20 21:45 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Justus Basurto <trso@subsrbob.au> - 2022-09-20 21:56 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-09-20 15:47 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-20 19:51 -0400
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-21 10:59 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-09-21 06:32 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-21 23:20 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-09-21 16:53 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-21 19:29 -0400
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-09-21 23:14 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Jeiker Carboni <iree@eoaijoje.br> - 2022-09-22 14:26 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Jeiker Carboni <iree@eoaijoje.br> - 2022-09-22 15:27 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-09-20 22:42 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-09-20 22:51 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-09-23 07:03 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-23 11:50 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-09-23 07:22 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-23 12:55 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-09-24 08:21 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-23 23:59 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-09-24 09:24 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-24 11:24 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-09-25 08:44 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained "Paul B. Andersen" <pba@paulba.no> - 2022-09-25 14:56 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-09-26 20:32 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-01 07:40 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-01 00:23 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-05 08:22 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-05 11:08 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-06 08:41 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 10:35 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-07 14:06 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-08 07:19 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-08 00:09 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-08 10:27 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-08 08:54 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-09 09:10 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-16 08:15 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-16 09:14 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-16 12:59 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-16 10:37 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Jules Scotti <ujsl@ocjssuis.os> - 2022-11-16 18:40 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-18 08:33 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-20 20:56 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-23 08:55 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Everly Segreti <ille@leysgsei.re> - 2022-11-08 18:52 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-09 09:24 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Everly Segreti <ille@leysgsei.re> - 2022-11-09 16:17 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-09 12:34 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Everly Segreti <ille@leysgsei.re> - 2022-11-09 19:30 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-09 12:37 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Everly Segreti <ille@leysgsei.re> - 2022-11-10 06:21 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-09 23:19 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Everly Segreti <ille@leysgsei.re> - 2022-11-10 07:59 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Urbano Napoleoni <uiiu@ilaonpno.ai> - 2022-12-07 23:10 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-12-07 15:28 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Everly Segreti <ille@leysgsei.re> - 2022-11-10 06:47 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-10 08:34 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-12 01:32 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Stefano Martelli <ftor@asanlnit.ir> - 2022-11-12 09:06 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-12 11:27 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-13 09:58 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-13 11:17 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-14 08:11 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-14 11:31 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-15 09:20 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-16 08:06 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-16 09:12 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-16 12:56 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-17 09:03 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-17 10:22 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-18 08:03 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-20 21:01 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Blake Armanni <blea@arrkare.in> - 2022-11-21 10:41 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-21 13:37 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Blake Armanni <blea@arrkare.in> - 2022-11-21 20:33 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-23 13:21 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Forest Vaccaro <asoa@ctrsreca.vr> - 2022-11-23 19:10 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-23 09:14 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-11-17 13:10 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-17 15:07 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-18 08:10 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-09 07:57 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-08 23:15 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-09 12:03 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-10 08:21 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-12 01:55 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-20 09:19 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-20 21:18 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 22:12 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-21 08:52 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-22 08:37 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-23 18:31 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 22:32 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-24 08:49 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-25 13:08 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-09-26 08:46 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-09-26 09:25 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-26 15:42 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-09-27 08:33 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-27 13:01 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Nikki Baldini <inai@dilainii.ib> - 2022-09-27 23:17 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-09-28 08:15 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-28 00:04 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Nikki Baldini <inai@dilainii.ib> - 2022-09-28 16:10 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-28 11:55 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Nikki Baldini <inai@dilainii.ib> - 2022-09-28 19:23 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-28 12:46 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Nikki Baldini <inai@dilainii.ib> - 2022-09-28 21:28 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Nikki Baldini <inai@dilainii.ib> - 2022-09-28 21:34 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-09-28 16:17 -0500
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Urbano Napoleoni <uiiu@ilaonpno.ai> - 2022-12-07 23:25 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-12-07 15:29 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-28 11:53 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-09-29 08:48 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-09-29 10:54 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-09-30 09:12 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-01 16:05 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-02 09:58 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-02 03:34 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-03 08:55 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-03 01:02 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-06 08:21 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-06 00:57 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-06 20:04 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-06 12:00 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-07 07:21 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 14:14 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Urbano Stilo <nuor@riotlaur.iu> - 2022-10-08 03:37 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-08 08:19 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-08 03:37 -0400
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 14:29 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Michel Marconi <iinc@lcrallem.or> - 2022-10-08 22:21 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-10 08:37 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 01:56 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-11 08:03 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-11 01:06 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-11 01:25 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-12 08:17 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-11 23:32 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-12 11:27 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-13 09:33 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 13:58 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Woodrow Adessi <reds@odirsodo.er> - 2022-10-13 21:03 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-14 08:49 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-14 01:11 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-15 09:24 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 03:05 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-16 09:30 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 13:02 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 13:19 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-17 08:18 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 02:48 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-18 08:56 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 14:51 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-20 21:14 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 13:27 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-21 09:03 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-21 02:05 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-22 10:36 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Oscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn> - 2022-10-22 08:42 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-22 12:04 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Oscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn> - 2022-10-22 19:47 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-22 19:54 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-22 23:00 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-23 09:13 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-23 02:45 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-25 07:49 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-24 23:53 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-25 09:26 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-25 12:32 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-28 09:16 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 20:51 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-30 08:25 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-30 13:51 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-31 09:40 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-10-31 11:26 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-31 17:42 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-01 07:59 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-01 00:35 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-02 09:04 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-11-02 11:39 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-04 08:18 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-11-04 12:12 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-04 10:49 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-05 08:35 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-05 11:10 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-06 08:51 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 10:47 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-08 07:35 +0100
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-08 00:07 -0800
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Everly Segreti <ille@leysgsei.re> - 2022-11-08 19:28 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-26 08:48 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-22 22:31 -0400
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-22 22:57 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-23 09:24 +0200
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Oscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn> - 2022-10-23 07:46 +0000
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-23 02:48 -0700
Re: The error of relativistic physicists explained Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-23 02:51 -0700
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> |
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| Date | 2022-11-12 11:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jt9anvFr6u7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #595219 |
On 2022-11-12 06:32:53 +0000, Volney said: > On 11/10/2022 2:34 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: [ … ] > > >> His niece was actually the girl-friend of Hitler (another bad-ass of >> epic proportions). > > More made-up fantasy? The only believable part of that is that Hitler > was a bad-ass. He's probably thinking of Unity Mitford, who wasn't exactly Churchill's niece, though they were related. -- Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2022-11-13 09:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jtbpttF87h8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #595233 |
Am 12.11.2022 um 11:27 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > On 2022-11-12 06:32:53 +0000, Volney said: > >> On 11/10/2022 2:34 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > > > [ … ] >> >> >>> His niece was actually the girl-friend of Hitler (another bad-ass of >>> epic proportions). >> >> More made-up fantasy? The only believable part of that is that Hitler >> was a bad-ass. > > He's probably thinking of Unity Mitford, who wasn't exactly Churchill's > niece, though they were related. > > Unity Mitford was actually the niece of Churchill's wife Clementine Hozier. What surprised me was a striking resemblence of the alledged daughter of Hitler and Eva Braun with the young Clementine Hozier. TH
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2022-11-13 11:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tkr59t$1g3up$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #595280 |
On 11/13/2022 3:58 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am 12.11.2022 um 11:27 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >> On 2022-11-12 06:32:53 +0000, Volney said: >> >>> On 11/10/2022 2:34 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> >> >> [ … ] >>> >>> >>>> His niece was actually the girl-friend of Hitler (another bad-ass of >>>> epic proportions). >>> >>> More made-up fantasy? The only believable part of that is that Hitler >>> was a bad-ass. >> >> He's probably thinking of Unity Mitford, who wasn't exactly Churchill's >> niece, though they were related. >> >> > Unity Mitford was actually the niece of Churchill's wife Clementine Hozier. > > What surprised me was a striking resemblence of the alledged daughter of > Hitler and Eva Braun with the young Clementine Hozier. And I suppose you consider this as "proof" that this alleged daughter and Clementine Hozier are close relatives. There was someone in my school who looked almost exactly like me. No relationship, hardly knew or saw him other than us staring at each other once in a while on chance meetings (there was a 2 year grade difference). Meanwhile, my parents, siblings and myself don't look at all like each other, beyond being the same ethnicity.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2022-11-14 08:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jte81hFl8c3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #595296 |
Am 13.11.2022 um 17:17 schrieb Volney: > On 11/13/2022 3:58 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am 12.11.2022 um 11:27 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >>> On 2022-11-12 06:32:53 +0000, Volney said: >>> >>>> On 11/10/2022 2:34 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>> >>> >>> [ … ] >>>> >>>> >>>>> His niece was actually the girl-friend of Hitler (another bad-ass of >>>>> epic proportions). >>>> >>>> More made-up fantasy? The only believable part of that is that Hitler >>>> was a bad-ass. >>> >>> He's probably thinking of Unity Mitford, who wasn't exactly Churchill's >>> niece, though they were related. >>> >>> >> Unity Mitford was actually the niece of Churchill's wife Clementine >> Hozier. >> >> What surprised me was a striking resemblence of the alledged daughter >> of Hitler and Eva Braun with the young Clementine Hozier. > > And I suppose you consider this as "proof" that this alleged daughter > and Clementine Hozier are close relatives. Actually not. But it has directed me to the assumption, that 'Eva Braun' was actually Unity Midford, while the person shown in some films was not Eva Braun. The person allegedly being Eva Braun looked way too sporty and has certain habbits, which would fit to a lesbian athlet from the USA. For instance she wore bikinis, which in the 1930th were only popular in the USA. In Germany they were illegal. She also conducted a sport, which was entirely unknown in Germany at that time, called 'wake-boarding' (on a very high level, btw, because she was doing that 'free-hand'). She was also frequently acting in films, which were filmed by Eva Braun. > There was someone in my school who looked almost exactly like me. No > relationship, hardly knew or saw him other than us staring at each other > once in a while on chance meetings (there was a 2 year grade > difference). Meanwhile, my parents, siblings and myself don't look at > all like each other, beyond being the same ethnicity. The similarity is just a hint and would prove nothing. But it is certainly interesting, that 'Eva Braun' could actually be a cover for the true identity of that person. My guess for Hitler himself was 'Noel Trevenen Huxley'. TH
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2022-11-14 11:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tktqh1$1pst7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #595343 |
On 11/14/2022 2:11 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am 13.11.2022 um 17:17 schrieb Volney: >> On 11/13/2022 3:58 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>> Am 12.11.2022 um 11:27 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >>>> On 2022-11-12 06:32:53 +0000, Volney said: >>>> >>>>> On 11/10/2022 2:34 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> [ … ] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> His niece was actually the girl-friend of Hitler (another bad-ass of >>>>>> epic proportions). >>>>> >>>>> More made-up fantasy? The only believable part of that is that Hitler >>>>> was a bad-ass. >>>> >>>> He's probably thinking of Unity Mitford, who wasn't exactly Churchill's >>>> niece, though they were related. >>>> >>>> >>> Unity Mitford was actually the niece of Churchill's wife Clementine >>> Hozier. >>> >>> What surprised me was a striking resemblence of the alledged daughter >>> of Hitler and Eva Braun with the young Clementine Hozier. >> >> And I suppose you consider this as "proof" that this alleged daughter >> and Clementine Hozier are close relatives. > > Actually not. > > But it has directed me to the assumption, that 'Eva Braun' was actually > Unity Midford, while the person shown in some films was not Eva Braun. Why would you assume that? Especially since Unity Mitford attempted suicide and was in no condition to do what you claim Eva Braun did? > > The person allegedly being Eva Braun looked way too sporty and has > certain habbits, which would fit to a lesbian athlet from the USA. Guilt by association at best. > > For instance she wore bikinis, which in the 1930th were only popular in > the USA. In Germany they were illegal. As gf of Hitler, he could let her do what she wanted if it turned him on. > > She also conducted a sport, which was entirely unknown in Germany at > that time, called 'wake-boarding' (on a very high level, btw, because > she was doing that 'free-hand'). And? > > She was also frequently acting in films, which were filmed by Eva Braun. Eva Braun was in films filmed by Eva Braun? You are complaining as that would be a contradiction? What about letting someone else operate the camera? > > >> There was someone in my school who looked almost exactly like me. No >> relationship, hardly knew or saw him other than us staring at each other >> once in a while on chance meetings (there was a 2 year grade >> difference). Meanwhile, my parents, siblings and myself don't look at >> all like each other, beyond being the same ethnicity. > > > The similarity is just a hint and would prove nothing. Why do you keep hinting at similarities as being meaningful then? > > But it is certainly interesting, that 'Eva Braun' could actually be a > cover for the true identity of that person. And...? I would think due to her infamy things would be chased down leaving no (real) reason to support your kooky beliefs. > > My guess for Hitler himself was 'Noel Trevenen Huxley'. And that is a really stupid guess as well.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2022-11-15 09:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jth0fgF3om3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #595375 |
Am 14.11.2022 um 17:31 schrieb Volney: >>>>>> >>>>>>> His niece was actually the girl-friend of Hitler (another bad-ass of >>>>>>> epic proportions). >>>>>> >>>>>> More made-up fantasy? The only believable part of that is that Hitler >>>>>> was a bad-ass. >>>>> >>>>> He's probably thinking of Unity Mitford, who wasn't exactly >>>>> Churchill's >>>>> niece, though they were related. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Unity Mitford was actually the niece of Churchill's wife Clementine >>>> Hozier. >>>> >>>> What surprised me was a striking resemblence of the alledged daughter >>>> of Hitler and Eva Braun with the young Clementine Hozier. >>> >>> And I suppose you consider this as "proof" that this alleged daughter >>> and Clementine Hozier are close relatives. >> >> Actually not. >> >> But it has directed me to the assumption, that 'Eva Braun' was >> actually Unity Midford, while the person shown in some films was not >> Eva Braun. > > Why would you assume that? Especially since Unity Mitford attempted > suicide and was in no condition to do what you claim Eva Braun did? Do you really believe, what newspapers write??? Unity Mitford had no reason to commit suicide whatsoever. Actually she was rich, beautiful and famous. Now she was also pregnant from the man she loved and who was also famous. Besides of lacking motives, the entire story does not add up. E.g. why in the world would a party-girl from London would decide to dei on a desolated island in the Western Hybrides together only with a few monks? >> The person allegedly being Eva Braun looked way too sporty and has >> certain habbits, which would fit to a lesbian athlet from the USA. > > Guilt by association at best. ?? Where do you find guilt by association in that lady? >> For instance she wore bikinis, which in the 1930th were only popular >> in the USA. In Germany they were illegal. > > As gf of Hitler, he could let her do what she wanted if it turned him on. Well, yes, of course. But Bikinis were not invented then (at least in Europe). So: how would you buy one. There was a company named afaik 'Knudsen' in the USA, however, who sold them. It is therefor most likely, that athlets wearing bikinis in the 1930 would stem from the USA. >> >> She also conducted a sport, which was entirely unknown in Germany at >> that time, called 'wake-boarding' (on a very high level, btw, because >> she was doing that 'free-hand'). > > And? To become that good at a certain sport requires training. And training requires that sport ot begin with. Now I would guess, that person had at least ten years of practice in wake-boarding. But 1935 minus ten years is somewhere in the twenties, when Germany had other worries than wake-boarding and tugging young ladies around with motor boats. ... TH
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2022-11-16 08:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jtjgerFfg9pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #595410 |
Am 15.11.2022 um 09:20 schrieb Thomas Heger: ... >>> >>> She also conducted a sport, which was entirely unknown in Germany at >>> that time, called 'wake-boarding' (on a very high level, btw, because >>> she was doing that 'free-hand'). >> >> And? > > To become that good at a certain sport requires training. > > And training requires that sport ot begin with. > > Now I would guess, that person had at least ten years of practice in > wake-boarding. > > But 1935 minus ten years is somewhere in the twenties, when Germany had > other worries than wake-boarding and tugging young ladies around with > motor boats. Wake-boarding stems from Lake Tahoe in Nevada. But Nevada is way south of Germany, hence also the water is much warmer on average than German lakes. For water sports like wake-boarding, which throw you frequently into the water, you need warmer water than German lakes can provide. German lakes are usuable for such sport only for a few month in summer. But in this case you need more years, if there are only say three month a year available. The other problem was the access to tug-boats in post war Germany (WW I, of course) and to enough gasoline. Sure, a few super-rich could afford everything. But Eva Braun's family wasn't particularily rich. TH
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> |
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| Date | 2022-11-16 09:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jtjkc2Fg252U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #595468 |
On 2022-11-16 07:06:09 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > Am 15.11.2022 um 09:20 schrieb Thomas Heger: > ... >>>> >>>> She also conducted a sport, which was entirely unknown in Germany at >>>> that time, called 'wake-boarding' (on a very high level, btw, because >>>> she was doing that 'free-hand'). >>> >>> And? >> >> To become that good at a certain sport requires training. >> >> And training requires that sport ot begin with. >> >> Now I would guess, that person had at least ten years of practice in >> wake-boarding. >> >> But 1935 minus ten years is somewhere in the twenties, when Germany had >> other worries than wake-boarding and tugging young ladies around with >> motor boats. > > Wake-boarding stems from Lake Tahoe in Nevada. > > But Nevada is way south of Germany, hence also the water is much warmer > on average than German lakes. Gosh. Your understanding of the climate isn't more advanced than your understanding of Einstein's 1905 paper. New York is way south of Marseilles, where I live, but I'm in no hurry to move to New York, especially in winter (but the summer isn't any better). > > For water sports like wake-boarding, which throw you frequently into > the water, you need warmer water than German lakes can provide. > > German lakes are usuable for such sport only for a few month in summer. > > But in this case you need more years, if there are only say three month > a year available. > > The other problem was the access to tug-boats in post war Germany (WW > I, of course) and to enough gasoline. > > Sure, a few super-rich could afford everything. But Eva Braun's family > wasn't particularily rich. > > TH -- Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2022-11-16 12:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tl387k$2de5i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #595468 |
On 11/16/2022 2:06 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am 15.11.2022 um 09:20 schrieb Thomas Heger: > ... >>>> >>>> She also conducted a sport, which was entirely unknown in Germany at >>>> that time, called 'wake-boarding' (on a very high level, btw, because >>>> she was doing that 'free-hand'). >>> >>> And? >> >> To become that good at a certain sport requires training. >> >> And training requires that sport ot begin with. >> >> Now I would guess, that person had at least ten years of practice in >> wake-boarding. >> >> But 1935 minus ten years is somewhere in the twenties, when Germany had >> other worries than wake-boarding and tugging young ladies around with >> motor boats. > > Wake-boarding stems from Lake Tahoe in Nevada. > > But Nevada is way south of Germany, hence also the water is much warmer > on average than German lakes. Everything is online these days. Google is your friend. Lake Tahoe is especially cold for the area. Today it is 52°F which is 11.1°C. "The swimming season in Lake Tahoe lasts from July to August. During those months, Lake Tahoe water temperature does not drop below 68°F and therefore suitable for comfortable swimming." https://seatemperature.info/lake-tahoe-water-temperature.html > > For water sports like wake-boarding, which throw you frequently into the > water, you need warmer water than German lakes can provide. > > German lakes are usuable for such sport only for a few month in summer. Lake Tahoe apparently only good for two months. > > But in this case you need more years, if there are only say three month > a year available. > > The other problem was the access to tug-boats in post war Germany (WW I, > of course) and to enough gasoline. > > Sure, a few super-rich could afford everything. But Eva Braun's family > wasn't particularily rich. So once again, all you have are multiple "if.. if.." guesswork, some of which we can see is false.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2022-11-17 09:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jtm85uFschpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #595505 |
Am 16.11.2022 um 18:56 schrieb Volney: > On 11/16/2022 2:06 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am 15.11.2022 um 09:20 schrieb Thomas Heger: >> ... >>>>> >>>>> She also conducted a sport, which was entirely unknown in Germany at >>>>> that time, called 'wake-boarding' (on a very high level, btw, because >>>>> she was doing that 'free-hand'). >>>> >>>> And? >>> >>> To become that good at a certain sport requires training. >>> >>> And training requires that sport ot begin with. >>> >>> Now I would guess, that person had at least ten years of practice in >>> wake-boarding. >>> >>> But 1935 minus ten years is somewhere in the twenties, when Germany had >>> other worries than wake-boarding and tugging young ladies around with >>> motor boats. >> >> Wake-boarding stems from Lake Tahoe in Nevada. >> >> But Nevada is way south of Germany, hence also the water is much >> warmer on average than German lakes. > > Everything is online these days. Google is your friend. Lake Tahoe is > especially cold for the area. Today it is 52°F which is 11.1°C. > > "The swimming season in Lake Tahoe lasts from July to August. During > those months, Lake Tahoe water temperature does not drop below 68°F and > therefore suitable for comfortable swimming." > > https://seatemperature.info/lake-tahoe-water-temperature.html >> >> For water sports like wake-boarding, which throw you frequently into >> the water, you need warmer water than German lakes can provide. >> >> German lakes are usuable for such sport only for a few month in summer. > > Lake Tahoe apparently only good for two months. Well, yes. But the US has lots of waters, which are warm enough in the winter (like in Florida for instance), while Germany hasn't. >> But in this case you need more years, if there are only say three >> month a year available. >> >> The other problem was the access to tug-boats in post war Germany (WW >> I, of course) and to enough gasoline. >> >> Sure, a few super-rich could afford everything. But Eva Braun's family >> wasn't particularily rich. > > So once again, all you have are multiple "if.. if.." guesswork, some of > which we can see is false. In this case no, since Eva Braun was working in a photo shop as laboratory assistent, what was not a very prestigious job and certainly not paid very well. Motor boats were extremely expensive in those day and most likely not available for working class people (like the family Braun). Germany itself was in disorder on that era, because Germany had just recently went through hyperinflation and huge amounts of money were lost. Prior to hyperinflation they had: the treaty of Versaille, the occupation of the Rhein area, revolts of the soldiers, the attempted coup of the Nazis and of course WW I (which Germany lost). There were other issues, too, like: reparations, occupation troups, hords of traumatised and injured veterans, massive unemployment, massive drug abuse, political turmoil and street fights of rivaling gangs of armed ex-soldiers. That was not quite the era to conduct expensive water sports, especially if you were not super-rich. TH
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> |
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| Date | 2022-11-17 10:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jtmcqqFt3brU1@mid.individual.net> |
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On 2022-11-17 08:03:05 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > > [ … ] > >>> But Nevada is way south of Germany, hence also the water is much >>> warmer on average than German lakes. >> >> Everything is online these days. Google is your friend. Lake Tahoe is >> especially cold for the area. Today it is 52°F which is 11.1°C. >> >> "The swimming season in Lake Tahoe lasts from July to August. During >> those months, Lake Tahoe water temperature does not drop below 68°F and >> therefore suitable for comfortable swimming." >> >> https://seatemperature.info/lake-tahoe-water-temperature.html >>> >>> For water sports like wake-boarding, which throw you frequently into >>> the water, you need warmer water than German lakes can provide. >>> >>> German lakes are usuable for such sport only for a few month in summer. >> >> Lake Tahoe apparently only good for two months. > > Well, yes. > > But the US has lots of waters, which are warm enough in the winter > (like in Florida for instance), Not as much as you appear to think. The Pacific Ocean off most of California (not to mention further north) is uncomfortably cold, even in summer, let alone in winter: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco" (attributed to Mark Twain). > while Germany hasn't. > [ … ] > -- Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2022-11-18 08:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jtop1aF9mouU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #595548 |
Am 17.11.2022 um 10:22 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > On 2022-11-17 08:03:05 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > >> >> [ … ] > >> >>>> But Nevada is way south of Germany, hence also the water is much >>>> warmer on average than German lakes. >>> >>> Everything is online these days. Google is your friend. Lake Tahoe is >>> especially cold for the area. Today it is 52°F which is 11.1°C. >>> >>> "The swimming season in Lake Tahoe lasts from July to August. During >>> those months, Lake Tahoe water temperature does not drop below 68°F and >>> therefore suitable for comfortable swimming." >>> >>> https://seatemperature.info/lake-tahoe-water-temperature.html >>>> >>>> For water sports like wake-boarding, which throw you frequently into >>>> the water, you need warmer water than German lakes can provide. >>>> >>>> German lakes are usuable for such sport only for a few month in summer. >>> >>> Lake Tahoe apparently only good for two months. >> >> Well, yes. >> >> But the US has lots of waters, which are warm enough in the winter >> (like in Florida for instance), > > Not as much as you appear to think. The Pacific Ocean off most of > California (not to mention further north) is uncomfortably cold, even in > summer, let alone in winter: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a > summer in San Francisco" (attributed to Mark Twain). > Yes, the Pazifik is quite cold. But the Golf of Mexico isn't. So, what? The problem with Eva Braun's identity wasn't just wake-boarding or Bikinis (both unknown in Germany at that time). One issue was, that she was acting in films, which were attributed to Eva Braun. But certainly you cannot act and film at the same time. Another was here extremely sporty behaviour. She conducted other tricks, too, which are well beyond the reach of common mortals. She also looked not quite Bavarian to me and behaved strange, when she wore one of these typical Bavarian costumes called 'Dirndl'. TH
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2022-11-20 21:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tlem5k$3kqn9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #595547 |
On 11/17/2022 3:03 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am 16.11.2022 um 18:56 schrieb Volney: >> On 11/16/2022 2:06 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>> Am 15.11.2022 um 09:20 schrieb Thomas Heger: >>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> She also conducted a sport, which was entirely unknown in Germany at >>>>>> that time, called 'wake-boarding' (on a very high level, btw, because >>>>>> she was doing that 'free-hand'). >>>>> >>>>> And? >>>> >>>> To become that good at a certain sport requires training. >>>> >>>> And training requires that sport ot begin with. >>>> >>>> Now I would guess, that person had at least ten years of practice in >>>> wake-boarding. >>>> >>>> But 1935 minus ten years is somewhere in the twenties, when Germany had >>>> other worries than wake-boarding and tugging young ladies around with >>>> motor boats. >>> >>> Wake-boarding stems from Lake Tahoe in Nevada. >>> >>> But Nevada is way south of Germany, hence also the water is much >>> warmer on average than German lakes. >> >> Everything is online these days. Google is your friend. Lake Tahoe is >> especially cold for the area. Today it is 52°F which is 11.1°C. >> >> "The swimming season in Lake Tahoe lasts from July to August. During >> those months, Lake Tahoe water temperature does not drop below 68°F and >> therefore suitable for comfortable swimming." >> >> https://seatemperature.info/lake-tahoe-water-temperature.html >>> >>> For water sports like wake-boarding, which throw you frequently into >>> the water, you need warmer water than German lakes can provide. >>> >>> German lakes are usuable for such sport only for a few month in summer. >> >> Lake Tahoe apparently only good for two months. > > Well, yes. > > But the US has lots of waters, which are warm enough in the winter (like > in Florida for instance), while Germany hasn't. > >>> But in this case you need more years, if there are only say three >>> month a year available. >>> >>> The other problem was the access to tug-boats in post war Germany (WW >>> I, of course) and to enough gasoline. >>> >>> Sure, a few super-rich could afford everything. But Eva Braun's family >>> wasn't particularily rich. >> >> So once again, all you have are multiple "if.. if.." guesswork, some of >> which we can see is false. > > In this case no, since Eva Braun was working in a photo shop as > laboratory assistent, what was not a very prestigious job and certainly > not paid very well. > > Motor boats were extremely expensive in those day and most likely not > available for working class people (like the family Braun). > > Germany itself was in disorder on that era, because Germany had just > recently went through hyperinflation and huge amounts of money were lost. > > Prior to hyperinflation they had: the treaty of Versaille, the > occupation of the Rhein area, revolts of the soldiers, the attempted > coup of the Nazis and of course WW I (which Germany lost). > > There were other issues, too, like: reparations, occupation troups, > hords of traumatised and injured veterans, massive unemployment, massive > drug abuse, political turmoil and street fights of rivaling gangs of > armed ex-soldiers. > > That was not quite the era to conduct expensive water sports, especially > if you were not super-rich. So do you have any actual *evidence* it was not Eva Braun who was the watersports athlete or just more of your paranoid "if.. if.." guesswork?
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| From | Blake Armanni <blea@arrkare.in> |
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| Date | 2022-11-21 10:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tlfkk0$3pifj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #595826 |
Volney wrote: > On 11/17/2022 3:03 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> That was not quite the era to conduct expensive water sports, >> especially if you were not super-rich. > > So do you have any actual *evidence* it was not Eva Braun who was the > watersports athlete or just more of your paranoid "if.. if.." guesswork? you are a terrorist country, let's close the discussion. It was two (2) missiles, sent by nazi gay comedian zelenske, and his regime, to kill humans in Poland. Bigger than that, directed to hit the deposed chemical *fertilizer*, prone to detonate in huge explosion, like that in Lebanon etc. The khazar zelenske is evil like shit, but all your inbreed khakhole nazis know that. The capitalist europe are killing the stupid polakers, once again. The khazar nazis are killing with your own, and the polakers weapons!! Iow, they gave the weapons, to be killed with, by the zelenske oligarch capitalist regime!! 2022.11.20 About That Missle That Fell In Poland . . . https://youtu.be/x0qIp16Cx_o"
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2022-11-21 13:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tlgggr$3rr91$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #595852 |
On 11/21/2022 5:41 AM, Blake Armanni wrote: > Volney wrote: > >> On 11/17/2022 3:03 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>> That was not quite the era to conduct expensive water sports, >>> especially if you were not super-rich. >> >> So do you have any actual *evidence* it was not Eva Braun who was the >> watersports athlete or just more of your paranoid "if.. if.." guesswork? > > you are a terrorist country, let's close the discussion. It was two (2) > missiles, sent by nazi gay comedian zelenske, and his regime, to kill > humans in Poland. Hey nymshifter, why don't you tell us about the HUNDREDS of missiles, sent by Nazi Putin and his evil 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 regime, to kill humans in Ukraine? Deliberately targeting apartment buildings, playgrounds, hospitals etc. ! And the one with the dummy nuclear warhead, what was that all about? Is 卐Путлер卐 trying to send a message "the next one will be real"?
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| From | Blake Armanni <blea@arrkare.in> |
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| Date | 2022-11-21 20:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tlgn9v$3sd0r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #595874 |
Volney wrote: > On 11/21/2022 5:41 AM, Blake Armanni wrote: >> you are a terrorist country, let's close the discussion. It was two (2) >> missiles, sent by nazi gay comedian zelenske, and his regime, to kill >> humans in Poland. > > Hey nymshifter, why don't you tell us about the HUNDREDS of missiles, > sent by Nazi Putin and his evil 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 regime, to kill humans in > Ukraine? because the "uKies" are occupying Russian Territory, committing war_crimes since 2014 coup detat, where the elected president was about to be assassinated by these nazis. Ask that ugly khazar bitch, victoria nulland "fuck_the_eu", about her *crimes_against_humanity*. Severe crimes, your deepen corrupt fascist regime calls as *tremendous_opportunity*. About 45 *bio_weapon_labs* in the nazist fictitious since 1991 "uKraine", morini. 45! On Russian territory. and ask me intelligent question, from now on. here's what a jewish man is saying about the "uKies". Killed about *_1.5_million_* Jews, while ago, morini!! Not me saying it, morini. Morini?? F.U. Zelensky! https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/DV18sM4DEGY7 Nord Stream (Sen. Ron Johnson, Victoria Nuland and Joe Biden) https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/K95EyXpmDd2E
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2022-11-23 13:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tlloas$e05f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #595888 |
On 11/21/2022 3:33 PM, Blake Armanni wrote: > Volney wrote: > >> On 11/21/2022 5:41 AM, Blake Armanni wrote: >>> you are a terrorist country, let's close the discussion. It was two (2) >>> missiles, sent by nazi gay comedian zelenske, and his regime, to kill >>> humans in Poland. >> >> Hey nymshifter, why don't you tell us about the HUNDREDS of missiles, >> sent by Nazi Putin and his evil 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 regime, to kill humans in >> Ukraine? > > because the "uKies" are occupying Russian Territory, No, they haven't occupied *any* 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 territory. A few missiles at Belgorod (future Ukraine territory after reparations?) and that's it. Ukraine has been fighting a defensive war. > committing war_crimes That's 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 doing that. Bombing Ukrainian power systems, missiles fired at apartment complexes and kindergartens, ethnic cleansing in occupied territories, torture etc. And just now they fired a missile at a maternity hospital and killed a newborn baby. Again. How's that for a 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 war crime, nymshifter? > since 2014 coup detat, where the elected president was about to be > assassinated by these nazis. Zelenskyy is the elected president now. Overwhelmingly in the last election. > "fuck_the_eu", about her *crimes_against_humanity*. That's right, the EU just voted to declare 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 a terrorist state, 80% in favor! What took them so long? > Severe crimes, your > deepen corrupt fascist regime calls as *tremendous_opportunity*. About 45 > *bio_weapon_labs* in the nazist fictitious since 1991 "uKraine", morini. > 45! On Russian territory. 45 bioweapons labs on 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 territory? 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 is now making bioweapons? Didn't 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 sign treaties not to do that? Oh that's right, 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 breaks treaties the first chance they get. > > and ask me intelligent question, from now on. > > here's what a jewish man is saying about the "uKies". Killed about > *_1.5_million_* Jews, while ago, morini!! Not me saying it, morini. > Morini?? That dog don't hunt, nymshifter. People laughed off the absurdity of "Nazis" running Ukraine long ago, with Zelenskyy and other government officials being Jewish! Jewish Nazis, nymshifter? How absurd is that? If you're looking for Nazis, look in the Kremlin. 卐Владольф Путлер卐 is using Hitler's playbook. Except it's not working.
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| From | Forest Vaccaro <asoa@ctrsreca.vr> |
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| Date | 2022-11-23 19:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tllr67$e6m5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #596021 |
Volney wrote: > On 11/21/2022 3:33 PM, Blake Armanni wrote: > > Volney wrote: > >> On 11/21/2022 5:41 AM, Blake Armanni wrote: > >>> you are a terrorist country, let's close the discussion. It was two > >>> (2) > >>> missiles, sent by nazi gay comedian zelenske, and his regime, to kill > >>> humans in Poland. > >> > >> Hey nymshifter, why don't you tell us about the HUNDREDS of missiles, > >> sent by Nazi Putin and his evil 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 regime, to kill humans in > >> Ukraine? > > > > because the "uKies" are occupying Russian Territory, > > No, they haven't occupied *any* 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 territory. A few missiles at > > > committing war_crimes > > That's 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 doing that. Bombing Ukrainian power systems, missiles this white arab imbecile, cutting papers up in small pieces out of context. You lying arab, the entire planet knows now you are a *terrorist_state*. The terrorist boris johnson is saying it openly. and stop making the gay comedian actor cocaine zelenske "president" and "jew". He is an stinking khazar goy, as written in The Bible. Read it one more time, you stupid white arab. here's what a jewish man is saying about the "uKies". Killed about *_1.5_million_* Jews, while ago, morini!! Not me saying it, morini. Morini?? F.U. Zelensky! https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/DV18sM4DEGY7 Nord Stream (Sen. Ron Johnson, Victoria Nuland and Joe Biden) https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/K95EyXpmDd2E
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2022-11-23 09:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ju633kFapi3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #595826 |
Am 21.11.2022 um 03:01 schrieb Volney: >>>> >>>> The other problem was the access to tug-boats in post war Germany (WW >>>> I, of course) and to enough gasoline. >>>> >>>> Sure, a few super-rich could afford everything. But Eva Braun's family >>>> wasn't particularily rich. >>> >>> So once again, all you have are multiple "if.. if.." guesswork, some of >>> which we can see is false. >> >> In this case no, since Eva Braun was working in a photo shop as >> laboratory assistent, what was not a very prestigious job and >> certainly not paid very well. >> >> Motor boats were extremely expensive in those day and most likely not >> available for working class people (like the family Braun). >> >> Germany itself was in disorder on that era, because Germany had just >> recently went through hyperinflation and huge amounts of money were lost. >> >> Prior to hyperinflation they had: the treaty of Versaille, the >> occupation of the Rhein area, revolts of the soldiers, the attempted >> coup of the Nazis and of course WW I (which Germany lost). >> >> There were other issues, too, like: reparations, occupation troups, >> hords of traumatised and injured veterans, massive unemployment, >> massive drug abuse, political turmoil and street fights of rivaling >> gangs of armed ex-soldiers. >> >> That was not quite the era to conduct expensive water sports, >> especially if you were not super-rich. > > So do you have any actual *evidence* it was not Eva Braun who was the > watersports athlete or just more of your paranoid "if.. if.." guesswork? > No, because I'm not a cop and do not investigate a crime scene. I look at films and ask the question, whether the alleged story told by the commentor makes sense. In case of the person called 'Eva Braun' the story didn't make sense for a great variety of reasons. In films you look, if the person behaves according to the context. In case of Eva Braun you look, if the person seen in the films fits to people from the alleged background. In case of Eva Braun this background was a young laboratory assistent in photo-shop in Munich, Bavaria. It is mainly a working class background and nothing prestigious involved. So: does the person look like a Bavarian? Answer: I would say, no, she looked Swedish or so? She behaved particularily strange, when she wore one of these typical Bavarian skirts called 'Dirndl'. Have apprentices in photo-shops usually skills in acrobatics? Answer: no, definitely not, because that profession is mainly inside and in darkness, where athlets usually don't like to work. Had that person any perticular relation with Hitler? Answer: she knew him, but apparently not as close as a girlfriend would be. It was close enough to take her as girlfried, anyhow. But the actually behaviour in close proximity showed, they had no affair with each other. Was that person engaged to any other male? Answer: no, she wasn't. Instead, I had the impression, she was in fact a lesbian. She had close contacts to dogs, children and other weman, but few to males. ... TH
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2022-11-17 13:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1q1fmsr.1d96qp214zamu3N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #595233 |
Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote: > On 2022-11-12 06:32:53 +0000, Volney said: > > > On 11/10/2022 2:34 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > > > [ … ] > > > > > >> His niece was actually the girl-friend of Hitler (another bad-ass of > >> epic proportions). > > > > More made-up fantasy? The only believable part of that is that Hitler > > was a bad-ass. > > He's probably thinking of Unity Mitford, who wasn't exactly Churchill's > niece, though they were related. Isn't that true of most of those in 'the upper classes'? Jan
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