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  Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-25 14:47 -0700
    Re: Tesla or Einstein? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-04-25 15:14 -0700
      Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-25 15:58 -0700
        Re: Tesla or Einstein? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-04-25 16:16 -0700
          Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-25 16:48 -0700
          Re: Tesla or Einstein? Dean Totolos <hcdp@xurrppjn.cn> - 2022-04-26 00:36 +0000
          Re: Tesla or Einstein? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-26 11:19 +0200
            Re: Tesla or Einstein? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 01:24 -0400
              Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 22:53 -0700
                Re: Tesla or Einstein? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-04-27 02:12 -0500
                Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 10:13 +0000
                  Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 07:42 -0700
                    Odious kapo Richard Hertz gets to eat shit "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 07:46 -0700
                    Re: Tesla or Einstein? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 12:20 -0400
                    Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 17:57 +0000
                Re: Tesla or Einstein? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 12:15 -0400
                  Re: Tesla or Einstein? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-27 22:08 +0200
                Re: Tesla or Einstein? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 19:39 -0700
              Re: Tesla or Einstein? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-04-27 02:08 -0500
                Re: Tesla or Einstein? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-27 10:26 +0200
                  Re: Tesla or Einstein? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-04-27 07:55 -0500
                    Re: Tesla or Einstein? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-27 18:59 +0200
                  Re: Tesla or Einstein? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 12:49 -0400
                Re: Tesla or Einstein? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 12:29 -0400
                  Re: Tesla or Einstein? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-04-27 13:36 -0500
              Re: Tesla or Einstein? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-27 10:26 +0200
                Re: Tesla or Einstein? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 13:01 -0400
                  Re: Tesla or Einstein? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-27 22:08 +0200
                Re: Tesla or Einstein? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-04-27 14:28 -0700
                  Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 14:57 -0700
                  Re: Tesla or Einstein? Hugh Itoh <xcrd@pbxvxqdd.pt> - 2022-04-27 22:17 +0000
    Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-25 16:58 -0700
      Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 01:38 +0000
        Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-25 21:10 -0700
          Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-25 21:58 -0700
            Re: Tesla or Einstein? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-04-25 22:19 -0700
              Re: Tesla or Einstein? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-11 09:59 +0200
            Re: Tesla or Einstein? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-04-25 22:20 -0700
            Re: Tesla or Einstein? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-26 01:36 -0400
              Re: Tesla or Einstein? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-25 22:50 -0700
              Re: Tesla or Einstein? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-11 09:38 +0200
            Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 16:04 +0000
              Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 15:57 -0700
                Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 03:27 +0000
                  Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 22:49 -0700
                    Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 10:13 +0000
          Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 15:49 +0000
    Re: Tesla or Einstein? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-04-25 17:13 -0700
      Re: Tesla or Einstein? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-04-25 18:25 -0700
        Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 01:38 +0000
          Re: Tesla or Einstein? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-04-25 20:27 -0700
            Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 15:49 +0000
    Re: Tesla or Einstein? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 01:38 +0000
      Re: Tesla or Einstein? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-26 11:19 +0200
        Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 07:46 -0700
    Re: Tesla or Einstein? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-28 07:02 +0200
      Re: Tesla or Einstein? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 22:31 -0700
        Re: Tesla or Einstein? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-28 11:32 -0700
          Re: Tesla or Einstein? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-29 07:52 +0200

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#584065 — Tesla or Einstein?

Tesla gave to the world:

- The AC energy generation and distribution grid, that lighten the world, 
  including long haul transport by using high voltage and local distribution.
   
- The brushless AC motor/AC generator, which allowed industrialization in
   scales never thought before him.

- The tuned radio, which augmented the efficiency of "brute-force" giant sparks. He even conceived the ionosphere as a mean to carry signals worldwide.

- Remote control.

- Hundred of subsystems stand-alone systems using electricity.

He did all of this in 15 years.

Meanwhile, in the same period, Einstein gave the world two relativity theories: the one that's widely used at this forum and the general relativity,
pretending to replace newtonian physics.

Measuring their importance as of today: Who shaped this world?

Tesla or Einstein?

In terms of education, both had more or less the same amount of education.
Only one excelled in mathematics, physics and engineering, ON HIS HEAD,
working COMPLETELY ALONE.

The other required the assistance (documented) of no less than 25 brighter
minds TO DO HIS WORK, which he posed as HIS OWN work, and still is claimed
as the most important scientific ever.

The first has been conveniently buried by the cabal.

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#584070

El lunes, 25 de abril de 2022 a las 17:47:43 UTC-4, Richard Hertz escribió:
> Tesla gave to the world: 

> 
> Measuring their importance as of today: Who shaped this world? 
> 
> Tesla or Einstein? 
> 

I think you have the wrong comparison. You should confront Tesla to Edison.

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#584073

On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 7:14:51 PM UTC-3, Paparios wrote:

<snip>

> I think you have the wrong comparison. You should confront Tesla to Edison.

I don't think so.

Tesla was a true polymath: experimental physicist, mathematician, engineer, philosopher, poet, humanist and more, who wanted
to be an inventor, make money and give to the world a better life.

Edison was a self-educated inventor, who became a ruthless, merciless businessman. He was an ungrateful SOB, who made
people work for him for pennies, without due rest or compensations. He wanted, with his dirty dozen investors, to rule the new
markets that technologies opened. ALL OF THEM. Curiously, he had a cut in Tesla intellectual growth, while being at Europe.

Even when orders of magnitude above, Tesla's thought processes were close to that of Graham Bell.

It's not for nothing that the fame of Tesla was worldwide, and Einstein did pay tribute to his incredible intellect, when he visited USA.

Have in mind that Tesla did EVERYTHING on his mind, along years and systemically. After he was finished, he filed for a patent.
There are books written by scholars, trying to figure out HOW did Tesla's mind worked. Some say, above genius, like a space alien.

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#584080

El lunes, 25 de abril de 2022 a las 18:58:13 UTC-4, Richard Hertz escribió:
> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 7:14:51 PM UTC-3, Paparios wrote: 
> 
> <snip>
> > I think you have the wrong comparison. You should confront Tesla to Edison.
> I don't think so. 
> 
> Tesla was a true polymath: experimental physicist, mathematician, engineer, philosopher, poet, humanist and more, who wanted 
> to be an inventor, make money and give to the world a better life. 
> 
> Edison was a self-educated inventor, who became a ruthless, merciless businessman. He was an ungrateful SOB, who made 
> people work for him for pennies, without due rest or compensations. He wanted, with his dirty dozen investors, to rule the new 
> markets that technologies opened. ALL OF THEM. Curiously, he had a cut in Tesla intellectual growth, while being at Europe. 
> 
> Even when orders of magnitude above, Tesla's thought processes were close to that of Graham Bell. 
> 
> It's not for nothing that the fame of Tesla was worldwide, and Einstein did pay tribute to his incredible intellect, when he visited USA. 
> 
> Have in mind that Tesla did EVERYTHING on his mind, along years and systemically. After he was finished, he filed for a patent. 
> There are books written by scholars, trying to figure out HOW did Tesla's mind worked. Some say, above genius, like a space alien.

At the end, Edison was more succesful than Tesla, who died almost broke having wasted all his money in not so good inventions . He however, was instrumental in the creation of the Westinghouse company and his main victory over Edison was the use of AC, intead of the DC Edison was pushing on. Edison created General Electric and bought the licenses from Westinghouse to use AC. Both companies continue to exist (with changes of names and directions).

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#584081

On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 8:18:18 PM UTC-3, Paparios wrote:
> El lunes, 25 de abril de 2022 a las 18:58:13 UTC-4, Richard Hertz escribió: 
> > On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 7:14:51 PM UTC-3, Paparios wrote: 
> > 
> > <snip> 
> > > I think you have the wrong comparison. You should confront Tesla to Edison. 
> > I don't think so. 
> > 
> > Tesla was a true polymath: experimental physicist, mathematician, engineer, philosopher, poet, humanist and more, who wanted 
> > to be an inventor, make money and give to the world a better life. 
> > 
> > Edison was a self-educated inventor, who became a ruthless, merciless businessman. He was an ungrateful SOB, who made 
> > people work for him for pennies, without due rest or compensations. He wanted, with his dirty dozen investors, to rule the new 
> > markets that technologies opened. ALL OF THEM. Curiously, he had a cut in Tesla intellectual growth, while being at Europe. 
> > 
> > Even when orders of magnitude above, Tesla's thought processes were close to that of Graham Bell. 
> > 
> > It's not for nothing that the fame of Tesla was worldwide, and Einstein did pay tribute to his incredible intellect, when he visited USA. 
> > 
> > Have in mind that Tesla did EVERYTHING on his mind, along years and systemically. After he was finished, he filed for a patent. 
> > There are books written by scholars, trying to figure out HOW did Tesla's mind worked. Some say, above genius, like a space alien.
> At the end, Edison was more succesful than Tesla, who died almost broke having wasted all his money in not so good inventions . He however, was instrumental in the creation of the Westinghouse company and his main victory over Edison was the use of AC, intead of the DC Edison was pushing on. Edison created General Electric and bought the licenses from Westinghouse to use AC. Both companies continue to exist (with changes of names and directions).

Did you know that Tesla saved Westinghouse from bankruptcy, during his duel with Edison for Niagara, by ripping off the $ 1 million 
document that Westinghouse had signed for part of his patents?

This was about 1895, and Tesla never recovered from that, economically.

In turn, Westinghouse and the company that he left when he died, did pay the hospitality of Tesla in a hotel, plus a monthly allowance
for almost 30 YEARS (1915-1943). And that was the gratitude that Tesla inspired on others.

Even when Westinghouse was a monster company, and long after his founder died, kept paying EVERYTHING that Tesla needed until
his death, after which FBI stormed the other room at the hotel he was living, which was full of undisclosed documents that Tesla
generated since mid 1920s to his death. A mystery never revealed.

Did some of them contained revelations about scalar direct energy generation and capture?

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#584084

Paparios wrote:

>> Have in mind that Tesla did EVERYTHING on his mind, along years and
>> systemically. After he was finished, he filed for a patent.
>> There are books written by scholars, trying to figure out HOW did
>> Tesla's mind worked. Some say, above genius, like a space alien.
> 
> At the end, Edison was more succesful than Tesla, who died almost broke

idiot. This is *ww3* already. You are an idiot. Did anybody armed
Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc when attacked and occupied by
the nazi nato, no. So arming the nazi "ukraine", a russian province
territory, *IS_ww3*.

Did Macron abandon French military to die in Azovstal to protect his
election campaign? https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=252706 Russia
regained control of Mariupol, Ukraine. It was learned that 
*_50_high_ranking_French_officers_* were trapped at the Azovstal 
Metallurgical Plant. It was learned that Putin opened a safe corridor, and 
Macron sent an order to ‘do not surrender’ in the election rush.

If true, I guess russia may easily start bombing the frogs.

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#584112

Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> wrote:

[-]
> At the end, Edison was more succesful than Tesla, who died almost broke
> having wasted all his money in not so good inventions.

Tesla survived for a long time on the royalties
of his commercially most succesful invention:
the first accurate and reliable car speedometer.

> He however, was instrumental in the creation of the Westinghouse company
> and his main victory over Edison was the use of AC, intead of the DC
> Edison was pushing on.

But Americans are still stuck with their puny 120 V power systems.

> Edison created General Electric and bought the
> licenses from Westinghouse to use AC. Both companies continue to exist
> (with changes of names and directions).

The problem with Edison was that he was just too dumb
to understand the complex number arithmetic and vector diagrams
involved in three-phase AC systems.

Jan

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#584212

On 4/26/2022 5:19 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> wrote:
> 
> [-]
>> At the end, Edison was more succesful than Tesla, who died almost broke
>> having wasted all his money in not so good inventions.
> 
> Tesla survived for a long time on the royalties
> of his commercially most succesful invention:
> the first accurate and reliable car speedometer.

I did not know that.
> 
>> He however, was instrumental in the creation of the Westinghouse company
>> and his main victory over Edison was the use of AC, intead of the DC
>> Edison was pushing on.
> 
> But Americans are still stuck with their puny 120 V power systems.

American household power systems have 240 volts available.  Only 
permanently wired large devices typically use it.  You won't see them 
much, but look up NEMA 6-15R and NEMA 6-20R outlets for what American 
lower current (15A and 20A) 240V outlets look like. Few houses have them.
> 
>> Edison created General Electric and bought the
>> licenses from Westinghouse to use AC. Both companies continue to exist
>> (with changes of names and directions).
> 
> The problem with Edison was that he was just too dumb
> to understand the complex number arithmetic and vector diagrams
> involved in three-phase AC systems.

More like much, MUCH too stubborn to accept the fact AC was superior 
then for the simple reason transformers could be used, therefore high 
voltage long distance power transmission could exist.  You see the same 
stubbornness from many posters here, who refuse to accept it when they 
are wrong.  You all know who you are... :-)

Plus Edison was a first class jerk.
(Edison does get the last laugh, very high voltage DC power links are 
now used for very long distance power transmission, even if they need 
converters on each end)

My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and 
insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at 
times.

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#584216

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:24:08 AM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote:

<snip>

> My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and 
> insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at 
> times.

Wash your mouth before saying anything about Tesla.

What he was is behind your comprehension, as one  ANT can think what you are.

You barely can understand that Einstein was an imbecile fraudster, a plagiarist, a thief, a deceiver, an impostor, etc, etc.

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#584220

On 4/27/2022 12:53 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:24:08 AM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and
>> insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at
>> times.
> 
> Wash your mouth before saying anything about Tesla.
> 
> What he was is behind your comprehension, as one  ANT can think what you are.
> 
> You barely can understand that Einstein was an imbecile fraudster, a plagiarist, a thief, a deceiver, an impostor, etc, etc.

Please consider seeing a professional about this rage you exhibit.

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#584232

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:24:08 AM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and 
>> insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at 
>> times.
> 
> Wash your mouth before saying anything about Tesla.
> 
> What he was is behind your comprehension, as one  ANT can think what you are.
> 
> You barely can understand that Einstein was an imbecile fraudster, a
> plagiarist, a thief, a deceiver, an impostor, etc, etc.
> 
> 

Hero worship is rampant. Mixed with “my hero can beat up your hero.”

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#584248

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:13:42 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:24:08 AM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote: 
> > 
> > <snip> 
> > 
> >> My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and 
> >> insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at 
> >> times. 
> > 
> > Wash your mouth before saying anything about Tesla. 
> > 
> > What he was is behind your comprehension, as one ANT can think what you are. 
> > 
> > You barely can understand that Einstein was an imbecile fraudster, a 
> > plagiarist, a thief, a deceiver, an impostor, etc, etc. 
> > 
> >
> Hero worship is rampant. Mixed with “my hero can beat up your hero.”
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables


Read this very carefully, Bodkin. And, besides, my "hero" is and always will be James Clerk Maxwell.

This site analyze jewish roots of the most relevant persons in many different activities (more than 1,000 are listed).
This is what's posted since 2006 about Einstein.
I call this PURE INDOCTRINATION: "The smartest man that ever lived was a Jew, Albert Einstein". THIS IS "HERO" WORSHIPPING!!

Jew or Not Jew: Choosing the Chosen People
http://www.jewornotjew.com/

Albert Einstein
March 14, 1879 – April 18, 1955

You can have Leonardo da Vinci. We won't argue about Isaac Newton. Thomas Edison can take a hike. Archimedes, Pythagoras, Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates are all too ancient to be considered. Copernicus? Galileo? Descartes? No thanks. We have Albert Einstein... the smartest man who ever lived.

The word "genius" gets thrown around so much today. That football coach is a genius! That movie director is a genius! Anyone who has an IQ over some number is a genius! The word's meaning is ever so diluted. But we're not here to argue about semantics, we're here to argue if someone is Jewish or not.

Albert Einstein: Genius. Jew.

But why such a high score for someone who was non-observant? All the proof you need is in Einstein's own quote, "A Jew who sheds his faith along the way, or who even picks up a different one, is still a Jew." Besides, anyone whose work was attempted to be discredited by the Nazis as "Jewish physics", anyone who was offered the presidency of Israel without being its citizen, anyone who has become a prototype for that overused word "genius", is clearly deserving of the perfect score.

Albert Einstein: Smartest Man Ever. Jew.

Verdict: Jew.
September 13, 2006



Isaac Newton
January 4, 1643 – March 31, 1727

Isaac Newton was not Jewish. Clearly. However, there are some connections: he knew Hebrew, was very well versed in Jewish history, and considered Christianity a derivative of Judaism.

So, we'll just slap a verdict here and go back to writing about Duffman...

One minor problem. Should we say "Not a Jew", or "Sadly, Not a Jew"? Yes, questions like these keep us awake at night.

On one hand, gravity, laws of motion, the reflecting telescope, one of the smartest men ever, etc, etc, etc. Sounds like a lock for "Sadly".

On the other hand, calculus. Thanks for that invention, Sir Isaac. We were forced to take three semesters of calculus in college. Those long nights struggling with double and triple integrals are not easily forgotten. Or forgiven.

And when, in our last calculus class ever, the professor told us that everything we'd worked so hard to learn was not only essentially useless but could be better done by computers, well...

Verdict: Not a Jew.
November 9, 2008


Not a single entry about Tesla or Maxwell.

So, it is about an abyss, where newtonians are on one side and einstenians are in the other side. No solution at sight.

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#584251 — Odious kapo Richard Hertz gets to eat shit

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:42:25 AM UTC-7, odious kapo Richard Hertz ate more shit:

> Jew or Not Jew: 

You are a jew, Dick. The odious kapo type. Every time you open your mouth, you get to eat shit. Bon appetit!

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#584267

On 4/27/2022 10:42 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:13:42 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:24:08 AM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and
>>>> insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at
>>>> times.
>>>
>>> Wash your mouth before saying anything about Tesla.
>>>
>>> What he was is behind your comprehension, as one ANT can think what you are.
>>>
>>> You barely can understand that Einstein was an imbecile fraudster, a
>>> plagiarist, a thief, a deceiver, an impostor, etc, etc.
>>>
>>>
>> Hero worship is rampant. Mixed with “my hero can beat up your hero.”

> I call this PURE INDOCTRINATION: "The smartest man that ever lived was a Jew, Albert Einstein". THIS IS "HERO" WORSHIPPING!!
> 
> Jew or Not Jew: Choosing the Chosen People
> http://www.jewornotjew.com/
> 
Just as Odd said, hero worship is rampant.

Please see a medical professional about your OCD fueled hatred for the man.

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#584295

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:13:42 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:24:08 AM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote: 
>>> 
>>> <snip> 
>>> 
>>>> My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and 
>>>> insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at 
>>>> times. 
>>> 
>>> Wash your mouth before saying anything about Tesla. 
>>> 
>>> What he was is behind your comprehension, as one ANT can think what you are. 
>>> 
>>> You barely can understand that Einstein was an imbecile fraudster, a 
>>> plagiarist, a thief, a deceiver, an impostor, etc, etc. 
>>> 
>>> 
>> Hero worship is rampant. Mixed with “my hero can beat up your hero.”
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> 
> Read this very carefully, Bodkin. And, besides, my "hero" is and always
> will be James Clerk Maxwell.

As I said. Hero worship is rampant. Mixed with “my here can beat up your
hero.”

> 
> This site analyze jewish roots of the most relevant persons in many
> different activities (more than 1,000 are listed).
> This is what's posted since 2006 about Einstein.
> I call this PURE INDOCTRINATION: "The smartest man that ever lived was a
> Jew, Albert Einstein". THIS IS "HERO" WORSHIPPING!!
> 
> Jew or Not Jew: Choosing the Chosen People
> http://www.jewornotjew.com/
> 
> Albert Einstein
> March 14, 1879 – April 18, 1955
> 
> You can have Leonardo da Vinci. We won't argue about Isaac Newton. Thomas
> Edison can take a hike. Archimedes, Pythagoras, Aristotle, Plato, and
> Socrates are all too ancient to be considered. Copernicus? Galileo?
> Descartes? No thanks. We have Albert Einstein... the smartest man who ever lived.
> 
> The word "genius" gets thrown around so much today. That football coach
> is a genius! That movie director is a genius! Anyone who has an IQ over
> some number is a genius! The word's meaning is ever so diluted. But we're
> not here to argue about semantics, we're here to argue if someone is Jewish or not.
> 
> Albert Einstein: Genius. Jew.
> 
> But why such a high score for someone who was non-observant? All the
> proof you need is in Einstein's own quote, "A Jew who sheds his faith
> along the way, or who even picks up a different one, is still a Jew."
> Besides, anyone whose work was attempted to be discredited by the Nazis
> as "Jewish physics", anyone who was offered the presidency of Israel
> without being its citizen, anyone who has become a prototype for that
> overused word "genius", is clearly deserving of the perfect score.
> 
> Albert Einstein: Smartest Man Ever. Jew.
> 
> Verdict: Jew.
> September 13, 2006
> 
> 
> 
> Isaac Newton
> January 4, 1643 – March 31, 1727
> 
> Isaac Newton was not Jewish. Clearly. However, there are some
> connections: he knew Hebrew, was very well versed in Jewish history, and
> considered Christianity a derivative of Judaism.
> 
> So, we'll just slap a verdict here and go back to writing about Duffman...
> 
> One minor problem. Should we say "Not a Jew", or "Sadly, Not a Jew"? Yes,
> questions like these keep us awake at night.
> 
> On one hand, gravity, laws of motion, the reflecting telescope, one of
> the smartest men ever, etc, etc, etc. Sounds like a lock for "Sadly".
> 
> On the other hand, calculus. Thanks for that invention, Sir Isaac. We
> were forced to take three semesters of calculus in college. Those long
> nights struggling with double and triple integrals are not easily forgotten. Or forgiven.
> 
> And when, in our last calculus class ever, the professor told us that
> everything we'd worked so hard to learn was not only essentially useless
> but could be better done by computers, well...
> 
> Verdict: Not a Jew.
> November 9, 2008
> 
> 
> Not a single entry about Tesla or Maxwell.
> 
> So, it is about an abyss, where newtonians are on one side and
> einstenians are in the other side. No solution at sight.
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#584264

On 4/27/2022 1:53 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:24:08 AM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and
>> insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at
>> times.
> 
> Wash your mouth before saying anything about Tesla.

Wash your own mouth out from all the lies you said about Einstein.

Both Einstein and Tesla were geniuses, but at least Einstein didn't 
wander into insanity and back.
> 
> What he was is behind your comprehension, as one  ANT can think what you are.
> 
> You barely can understand that Einstein was an imbecile fraudster, a plagiarist, a thief, a deceiver, an impostor, etc, etc.
> 
Einstein was more of a genius than you can ever hope for.  Too bad for 
your OCD-driven hatred!

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#584307

Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:

> On 4/27/2022 1:53 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:24:08 AM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> >> My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and
> >> insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at
> >> times.
> > 
> > Wash your mouth before saying anything about Tesla.
> 
> Wash your own mouth out from all the lies you said about Einstein.
> 
> Both Einstein and Tesla were geniuses, but at least Einstein didn't 
> wander into insanity and back.
> > 
> > What he was is behind your comprehension, as one  ANT can think what you
> > are.
> > 
> > You barely can understand that Einstein was an imbecile fraudster, a
> > plagiarist, a thief, a deceiver, an impostor, etc, etc.
> > 
> Einstein was more of a genius than you can ever hope for.  Too bad for
> your OCD-driven hatred!

Not only that, Einstein also owned more patents,

Jan

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#584333

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:53:42 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:

> ... You barely can understand that Einstein was an imbecile fraudster, a plagiarist, a thief, a deceiver, an impostor, etc, etc.

Koobee Wublee has risen from the dead!

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#584219

On 4/27/2022 12:24 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 4/26/2022 5:19 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> wrote:
>>
>> [-]
>>> At the end, Edison was more succesful than Tesla, who died almost broke
>>> having wasted all his money in not so good inventions.
>>
>> Tesla survived for a long time on the royalties
>> of his commercially most succesful invention:
>> the first accurate and reliable car speedometer.
> 
> I did not know that.
>>
>>> He however, was instrumental in the creation of the Westinghouse company
>>> and his main victory over Edison was the use of AC, intead of the DC
>>> Edison was pushing on.
>>
>> But Americans are still stuck with their puny 120 V power systems.
> 
> American household power systems have 240 volts available.  Only 
> permanently wired large devices typically use it.  You won't see them 
> much, but look up NEMA 6-15R and NEMA 6-20R outlets for what American 
> lower current (15A and 20A) 240V outlets look like. Few houses have them.


Michael, you've apparently spent most of your life in a city atmosphere,
where gas is usually available. I spent most of my life in city and
suburban settings but retired to the country in what is best described
as a "hole in the woods.

In rural America, where gas is not available, 240 volt appliances are
quite common. Fixed is the electric water heater typically 30 or 40
amps at 240 volts. More portable, using sockets and power cords with
matching plugs are electric clothes dryers (typically 240 volts at 30
amps) and electric stoves (typically 240 volts 50 or 60 amps.)

I presently live in the country and have all these appliances though I
have given some thought to switching my kitchen stove and clothes dryer
to propane gas (LPG) since I have significant storage (1450 gallons) as
I purchase a year's worth of gas when the price is at its lowest during
the summer months.

It sounds as though Lodder lives in Europe or someplace else that uses
230 volts @ 50 Hz for everything, including lamps. For the most part
those countries had stated out with 110 volt distribution to homes but
at some point they doubled the user voltage in order to save entire
countries from having to replace their distribution wires which we, in
the USA, did without flinching. Also the minimum requirement in most of
the USA is 240 Volts at 100 amperes. Such services are infrequent in
most of Europe, their minimum requirement is much smaller. BTW, when, as
a child, I lived in Europe (WW2 period) the voltage in my parents'
apartment was 110 volts. Visiting family beginning in 1986 I discovered
that the voltage had been increased to 240.

I think the residential feature of 120 volts is favorable rather than
a detriment that Lodder appears to want to insinuate. I've explained the
situation that actually doesn't belong in this newsgroup but I will
not attempt to gorge myself on the bait that Lodder has cast out.

When I was visiting my cousins in Europe one who is an electrical
engineer asked me why the USA runs on 60 Hz electric power. He
understood immediately when I mentioned that clocks run on 60's. We in
the USA maintain that 60 Hz very accurately (Europe doesn't maintain
theirs closely) and as a result we are able to use synchronous electric
motors to run our clocks directly off the power that comes into our
homes. Europe reduces the frequency of their power in order to effect
necessary brownouts, leaving themselves without that access. Of course
today, with very inexpensive battery powered clock movements it no is no
longer a worthwhile consideration.



<snip>

> My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and 
> insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at 
> times.

When I started visiting the old country, several of my transatlantic
flights were on a 747 that was named after Tesla, That's the time I
found out that Yugoslavia, Greece, and Hungary all claimed him as one of
their own and I was advised by a very pretty stewardess that Serbo-
Croation was the perfect language. She was so intent and emotional about
it I knew better than to challenge her. Of course I'd heard similar
claims from others regarding their national language. Even then I heard
AmerEnglish words cluttering their "perfect languages." <grin>

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#584224

whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> wrote:

> On 4/27/2022 12:24 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On 4/26/2022 5:19 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >> Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> wrote:
> >>
> >> [-]
> >>> At the end, Edison was more succesful than Tesla, who died almost broke
> >>> having wasted all his money in not so good inventions.
> >>
> >> Tesla survived for a long time on the royalties
> >> of his commercially most succesful invention:
> >> the first accurate and reliable car speedometer.
> > 
> > I did not know that.
> >>
> >>> He however, was instrumental in the creation of the Westinghouse company
> >>> and his main victory over Edison was the use of AC, intead of the DC
> >>> Edison was pushing on.
> >>
> >> But Americans are still stuck with their puny 120 V power systems.
> > 
> > American household power systems have 240 volts available.  Only 
> > permanently wired large devices typically use it.  You won't see them
> > much, but look up NEMA 6-15R and NEMA 6-20R outlets for what American
> > lower current (15A and 20A) 240V outlets look like. Few houses have them.
> 
> 
> Michael, you've apparently spent most of your life in a city atmosphere,
> where gas is usually available. I spent most of my life in city and
> suburban settings but retired to the country in what is best described
> as a "hole in the woods.
> 
> In rural America, where gas is not available, 240 volt appliances are
> quite common. Fixed is the electric water heater typically 30 or 40
> amps at 240 volts. More portable, using sockets and power cords with
> matching plugs are electric clothes dryers (typically 240 volts at 30
> amps) and electric stoves (typically 240 volts 50 or 60 amps.)
> 
> I presently live in the country and have all these appliances though I
> have given some thought to switching my kitchen stove and clothes dryer
> to propane gas (LPG) since I have significant storage (1450 gallons) as
> I purchase a year's worth of gas when the price is at its lowest during
> the summer months.
> 
> It sounds as though Lodder lives in Europe or someplace else that uses
> 230 volts @ 50 Hz for everything, including lamps.

Yes, of course. Hadn't you noticed?

> For the most part
> those countries had stated out with 110 volt distribution to homes but
> at some point they doubled the user voltage in order to save entire
> countries from having to replace their distribution wires which we, in
> the USA, did without flinching. Also the minimum requirement in most of
> the USA is 240 Volts at 100 amperes. Such services are infrequent in
> most of Europe, their minimum requirement is much smaller.

You clearly have no idea of what you are talking about,
or your information is way out of date.
No point in discussing ignorance.

> BTW, when, as
> a child, I lived in Europe (WW2 period) the voltage in my parents'
> apartment was 110 volts. Visiting family beginning in 1986 I discovered
> that the voltage had been increased to 240.
> 
> I think the residential feature of 120 volts is favorable rather than
> a detriment that Lodder appears to want to insinuate. I've explained the
> situation that actually doesn't belong in this newsgroup but I will
> not attempt to gorge myself on the bait that Lodder has cast out.

It wastes copper, and it is less safe because it cause more fires.
(while electrocution hardly kills anybody)

> When I was visiting my cousins in Europe one who is an electrical
> engineer asked me why the USA runs on 60 Hz electric power. He
> understood immediately when I mentioned that clocks run on 60's. We in
> the USA maintain that 60 Hz very accurately (Europe doesn't maintain
> theirs closely) and as a result we are able to use synchronous electric
> motors to run our clocks directly off the power that comes into our
> homes.

You clearly have no idea of what you are talking about,
or your information is way out of date.
No point in discussing complete ignorance.

> Europe reduces the frequency of their power in order to effect
> necessary brownouts, leaving themselves without that access. Of course
> today, with very inexpensive battery powered clock movements it no is no
> longer a worthwhile consideration.

Don't use such strange words. What is 'a brownout'.
Must be something only Americans know about.

> <snip>
> 
> > My opinion is that Tesla was right on the line between genius and 
> > insanity, and would go on both sides of it. He was quite the odd duck at
> > times.
> 
> When I started visiting the old country, several of my transatlantic
> flights were on a 747 that was named after Tesla, That's the time I
> found out that Yugoslavia, Greece, and Hungary all claimed him as one of
> their own and I was advised by a very pretty stewardess that Serbo-
> Croation was the perfect language. She was so intent and emotional about
> it I knew better than to challenge her. Of course I'd heard similar
> claims from others regarding their national language. Even then I heard
> AmerEnglish words cluttering their "perfect languages." <grin>

Yes, Serbia is on the point of declaring was on Croatia
for the crime of putting Tesla on a Euro coin.
Serbians are just like Russians: they can't accept
that others really don't want to be ruled by them.
And they think that Serbia must be all it may have been, once.

Jan

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