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The Goal of Albert Einstein

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  The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-19 10:18 -0700
    Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-19 11:54 -0700
      Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-20 10:22 -0700
    Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-20 00:19 +0000
      Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-21 23:09 +0000
        Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-21 16:15 -0700
          Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-22 00:33 +0000
            Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-21 20:39 -0700
              Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-22 04:05 +0000
                Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-21 22:55 -0700
                  Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-22 06:02 +0000
                    Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-03-22 08:10 +0000
                      Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-03-22 08:13 +0000
                        Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Peter Adams <go@here.now> - 2025-03-28 03:29 -0700
                          Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-03-28 12:42 +0000
    Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-20 10:28 -0700
      Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-21 02:47 +0000
      Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-22 15:38 -0700
    Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-21 11:47 +0100
      Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-21 10:59 -0700
        Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-21 23:54 -0700
          Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-23 10:53 -0700
            Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-23 11:35 -0700
            Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-23 23:31 -0600
        Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-22 16:09 -0700
          Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-23 22:34 -0700
        Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-24 08:17 +0100
      Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-21 11:23 -0700
      Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein neus <neus@elk.Net.inv> - 2025-03-21 20:19 +0000
        Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-21 15:25 -0700
          Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:46 -0400
        Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-22 07:35 +0100
      Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:13 -0400
        Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-25 10:40 +0100
          Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-03-25 10:27 +0000
            Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-27 08:39 +0100
              Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-03-27 12:58 +0000
                Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-27 12:49 -0400
                  Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-27 22:20 +0000
                Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-28 07:54 +0100
                  Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-28 09:40 +0000
          Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein algorithmic behavior <somefuckingguyyy@gardner.con> - 2025-03-27 09:33 -0700
            Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-28 08:03 +0100
              Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein algorithmic behavior <somefuckingguyyy@gardner.con> - 2025-03-28 08:14 -0700
                Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-28 21:11 +0000
                  Re: The Goal of Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-29 20:59 +0000

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#662060

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-03-21 23:54 -0700
Message-ID<67DE5E9C.68B7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#662026
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> > Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > > Now, I'm going to tell you something you
> > > never heard before...
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as possible.
> >
> > As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
> 
> I'm not about to give History lesson here just because you were cutting classes...
> 
> In WW2 Japan was an ally of Germany.
> 
> >
> > But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against Germany.
> 
> and he a lot of Emotions against Japan!
> 
> I got tons of stuff, angry letters, etc.



Here is a small part of a letter Einstein wrote to his angry friend in
Japan...

"I have always condemned the
use of the atomic bomb against Japan. However, I was completely
powerless to prevent the fateful decision for which I am as little
responsible as you are for the deeds of the Japanese in Korea and
China."

WHAT THE HELL DID JAPAN DO TO KOREA AND CHINA????


and why did it bother Einstein soooo much?







-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#662096

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-03-23 10:53 -0700
Message-ID<67E04A82.24F0@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#662060
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > >
> > > Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > > > Now, I'm going to tell you something you
> > > > never heard before...
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as possible.
> > >
> > > As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
> >
> > I'm not about to give History lesson here just because you were cutting classes...
> >
> > In WW2 Japan was an ally of Germany.
> >
> > >
> > > But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against Germany.
> >
> > and he a lot of Emotions against Japan!
> >
> > I got tons of stuff, angry letters, etc.
> 
> Here is a small part of a letter Einstein wrote to his angry friend in
> Japan...
> 
> "I have always condemned the
> use of the atomic bomb against Japan. However, I was completely
> powerless to prevent the fateful decision for which I am as little
> responsible as you are for the deeds of the Japanese in Korea and
> China."
> 
> WHAT THE HELL DID JAPAN DO TO KOREA AND CHINA????
> 
> and why did it bother Einstein soooo much?



Why would Albert Einstein want to drop an atomic bomb on Germany???? IT
WOULD KILL ALL HIS PEOPLE!

dat no make no sence.


Japan? He want them dead for a long time...


Japan interfered with Albert Einstein's Earth's Foreign Police.


While you people were boycotting your neigborhood strip club, he wanted
to boycott...Japan.


He's gots bigger fish to fry...








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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#662097

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-03-23 11:35 -0700
Message-ID<67E0545D.2879@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#662096
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > > > > Now, I'm going to tell you something you
> > > > > never heard before...
> > > > >
> > > > > Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as possible.
> > > >
> > > > As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
> > >
> > > I'm not about to give History lesson here just because you were cutting classes...
> > >
> > > In WW2 Japan was an ally of Germany.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against Germany.
> > >
> > > and he a lot of Emotions against Japan!
> > >
> > > I got tons of stuff, angry letters, etc.
> >
> > Here is a small part of a letter Einstein wrote to his angry friend in
> > Japan...
> >
> > "I have always condemned the
> > use of the atomic bomb against Japan. However, I was completely
> > powerless to prevent the fateful decision for which I am as little
> > responsible as you are for the deeds of the Japanese in Korea and
> > China."
> >
> > WHAT THE HELL DID JAPAN DO TO KOREA AND CHINA????
> >
> > and why did it bother Einstein soooo much?
> 
> Why would Albert Einstein want to drop an atomic bomb on Germany???? IT
> WOULD KILL ALL HIS PEOPLE!
> 
> dat no make no sence.
> 
> Japan? He want them dead for a long time...
> 
> Japan interfered with Albert Einstein's Earth's Foreign Police.
> 
> While you people were boycotting your neigborhood strip club, he wanted
> to boycott...Japan.
> 
> He's gots bigger fish to fry...


Here is just some parts of the letters..
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/07/05/2003262351



(Israel owns them now of course, dat means you won't see them all)


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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#662111

FromGronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-03-23 23:31 -0600
Message-ID<vrqqo3$7aku$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#662096
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Why would Albert Einstein want to drop an atomic bomb on Germany???? IT
> WOULD KILL ALL HIS PEOPLE!
> 
> dat no make no sence.

Then why was he living in America for so long? And
why the 1939 letter to Roosevelt urging research
and develoment towards a bomb before Germany got
further along?

https://www.atomicarchive.com/resources/documents/beginnings/einstein.html


> Japan? He want them dead for a long time...
> 
> 
> Japan interfered with Albert Einstein's Earth's Foreign Police.
> 
> 
> While you people were boycotting your neigborhood strip club, he wanted
> to boycott...Japan.

Because of what Japan was doing in Manchuria

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#662079

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-03-22 16:09 -0700
Message-ID<67DF4321.4B6A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#662026
The Starmaker wrote:

> 
> Albert Einstein rejected the presidency of Israel because they were small fries. Albert Einstein considers
> himself a...World Leader! Leader of the World...the planet Earth.
> 
> He tells the President of the United States, "Build an atomic bomb and kill those motherfuckers!"

Keep in mind, Albert Einstein considers
himself a...World Leader! Leader of the World...the planet Earth.

Albert Einstein is a self-appointed Leader of the planet Earth.

Here is a letter Einstein wrote in 1932, (that's 10 years before Japan
attacked Pearl Harbor)


. Einstein replied on April 26, 1932:
Your letter of April 20 convinced me that I had misinterpreted your
telegram and was mistaken about the character of the congress which you
suggested. 
I was under the impression that all you intended was to make a rather
impotent protest in the hope of affecting the war policy which Japan is
pursuing at the moment. 
I realize now that you are aiming at a much larger target: to help
create a more effective antiwar movement than has thus far existed. In
such an endeavor I should be glad to participate as fully as possible.
I am convinced that only one policy will prove effective: All member
states of the League of Nations and, in addition, the United States must
accept the unconditional obligation to carry
 out all decisions of the League and the International Court of
Arbitration at The Hague.
If we succeeded in convincing the more educated groups in the various
countries of the necessity of so far-reaching a renunciation of national
sovereignty, we 
would actually be accomplishing something that would be useful. Had we
been able to accomplish this in the past, Japan's insolent action could
have been prevented by 
the imposition of a boycott of all Japanese goods and ships.
During the spring Einstein received a number of messages from Barbusse
reporting sponsorship by many other prominent persons as well as 
steady progress in the organization of the congress. Attached to a
letter dated May 18, 1932, was the text of an appeal, to be signed by
all the sponsors, which 
was to serve as a public announcement. The appeal pointed out that the
war unleashed in China by Japan was unmistakably directed at the Soviet
Union "with 
the approval and connivance of the great imperialistic powers." The
thought was particularly emphasized in the first paragraph of the
appeal: "While the Disarmament Conference 

is in full swing in Geneva, Japan has hurled itself against the Asiatic
mainland. It has slaughtered countless innocent people in Chapei. It has
occupied Manchuria. 
Crudely camouflaged as an independent republic, Manchuria is clearly to
serve as a strategic base for any war against the Soviet Union. For
fifteen years the Soviet Union 
has striven to build a new world order based on a co-operative community
of workers, a reasonable distribution of national income, the pursuit of
common welfare, and the 
abolition of exploitation and oppression of man by his fellow man: in
short, on principles diametrically opposed to the anarchy of the
capitalist system. 
The Soviet Union, dedicated to its great task of socialist and human
construction, has for months heroically resisted Japanese
provocation..." -Albert Einstein -Self-Appointed Leader of the planet
Earth.

















-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#662112

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-03-23 22:34 -0700
Message-ID<67E0EF03.5B13@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#662079
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> >
> > Albert Einstein rejected the presidency of Israel because they were small fries. Albert Einstein considers
> > himself a...World Leader! Leader of the World...the planet Earth.
> >
> > He tells the President of the United States, "Build an atomic bomb and kill those motherfuckers!"
> 
> Keep in mind, Albert Einstein considers
> himself a...World Leader! Leader of the World...the planet Earth.
> 
> Albert Einstein is a self-appointed Leader of the planet Earth.
> 
> Here is a letter Einstein wrote in 1932, (that's 10 years before Japan
> attacked Pearl Harbor)
> 
> . Einstein replied on April 26, 1932:
> Your letter of April 20 convinced me that I had misinterpreted your
> telegram and was mistaken about the character of the congress which you
> suggested.
> I was under the impression that all you intended was to make a rather
> impotent protest in the hope of affecting the war policy which Japan is
> pursuing at the moment.
> I realize now that you are aiming at a much larger target: to help
> create a more effective antiwar movement than has thus far existed. In
> such an endeavor I should be glad to participate as fully as possible.
> I am convinced that only one policy will prove effective: All member
> states of the League of Nations and, in addition, the United States must
> accept the unconditional obligation to carry
>  out all decisions of the League and the International Court of
> Arbitration at The Hague.
> If we succeeded in convincing the more educated groups in the various
> countries of the necessity of so far-reaching a renunciation of national
> sovereignty, we
> would actually be accomplishing something that would be useful. Had we
> been able to accomplish this in the past, Japan's insolent action could
> have been prevented by
> the imposition of a boycott of all Japanese goods and ships.
> During the spring Einstein received a number of messages from Barbusse
> reporting sponsorship by many other prominent persons as well as
> steady progress in the organization of the congress. Attached to a
> letter dated May 18, 1932, was the text of an appeal, to be signed by
> all the sponsors, which
> was to serve as a public announcement. The appeal pointed out that the
> war unleashed in China by Japan was unmistakably directed at the Soviet
> Union "with
> the approval and connivance of the great imperialistic powers." The
> thought was particularly emphasized in the first paragraph of the
> appeal: "While the Disarmament Conference
> 
> is in full swing in Geneva, Japan has hurled itself against the Asiatic
> mainland. It has slaughtered countless innocent people in Chapei. It has
> occupied Manchuria.
> Crudely camouflaged as an independent republic, Manchuria is clearly to
> serve as a strategic base for any war against the Soviet Union. For
> fifteen years the Soviet Union
> has striven to build a new world order based on a co-operative community
> of workers, a reasonable distribution of national income, the pursuit of
> common welfare, and the
> abolition of exploitation and oppression of man by his fellow man: in
> short, on principles diametrically opposed to the anarchy of the
> capitalist system.
> The Soviet Union, dedicated to its great task of socialist and human
> construction, has for months heroically resisted Japanese
> provocation..." -Albert Einstein -Self-Appointed Leader of the planet
> Earth.

"Had we
been able to accomplish this in the past, Japan's insolent action could
have been prevented by 
the imposition of a boycott of all Japanese goods and ships." -Albert
Einstein


Or drop 2 atomic bombs on Japan...

(cause the boycott didn't work)



Albert Einstein did what Al Capone would have done, instead of
boycottying the store, he just bombed them out of business.


I like Capone's methods. 


It's ...efficient.









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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#662116

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-03-24 08:17 +0100
Message-ID<m4cf78FbrtbU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#662026
Am Freitag000021, 21.03.2025 um 18:59 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Now, I'm going to tell you something you
>>> never heard before...
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as possible.
>>
>> As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
> 
> 
> I'm not about to give History lesson here just because you were cutting classes...
> 
> 
> In WW2 Japan was an ally of Germany.
> 
> 
>>
>> But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against Germany.
> 
> and he a lot of Emotions against Japan!
> 
> I got tons of stuff, angry letters, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Actually he was born in Germany (at least that is his usual CV), but
>> didn't like Germans.
> 
> 
> a self-hating German? We got a lot of self-hating Americans...they call themselves...Demcrats.

I actually had doubts, that he was German at all.

His official CV contains situations, which I regard as simply impossible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein

Quote:

"The Einstein family moved to Italy, first to Milan and a few months 
later to Pavia, where they settled in Palazzo Cornazzani.[19] Einstein, 
then fifteen, stayed behind in Munich in order to finish his schooling."

I had doubts, that any family could leave the eldest son behind alone in 
a different country.


"On the advice of the polytechnic's principal, he completed his 
secondary education at the Argovian cantonal school (a gymnasium) in 
Aarau, Switzerland, graduating in 1896."

That would have been hard, because Gymnasium needed 13 years for 
'Abitur/Matura' in the Germany speaking countries. That would have been 
1879 +6+ 13= 1898

Well, possibly a genius could leave out a class and 'jump'. But Einstein 
missed a year of schooling, because he didn't attend school in Pavia, 
after he he moved from Munich to Italy.

To go to school in Switzerland, while his family lived in Italy is also 
a remarkable thing. I had actually doubts about the possibility to do 
that, because Swiss aren't and were not fond of foreigners, let alone 
unattended kids.

As far as I can tell, there were no entrance exams at 
German/Austrian/Swiss universities in that era, but actually I don't 
know. But at least these exams were held after the candidate has 
'Abitur/Matura' (which Einstein could not have under usual circumstances 
before the age of 18 or 19). But the story goes, that he failed the 
entrance exams at the age of 16.

Then the Swiss allowed the still unattended teenager to go to university 
in Zurich and study teaching for physics and mathematics.

Later the Swiss allowed the former German to work in the Swiss patent 
office. This would have required a certain status called 'Beamter', 
which usually requires to be a born citizen.

Now, to me it would have made more sense, if Einstein actually was a 
born Swiss, (possibly born with a different name and possibly not a Jew).



...


TH

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#662027

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-03-21 11:23 -0700
Message-ID<67DDAE8C.2229@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#662017
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> 
> I had actually doubts about his German origin and assumed, that he was
> neither a Jew (possibly a Jesuit ?) nor a German, but Swiss citizen from
> birth.


He said he was Swiss so he can avoid the draft in Germany.


he's a draft-dogger!


GIMME A SWIZZ PASSPORT!!!








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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#662035

Fromneus <neus@elk.Net.inv>
Date2025-03-21 20:19 +0000
Message-ID<6cOcnZ8dFdaGV0D6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#662017
Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
>> Now, I'm going to tell you something you
>> never heard before...
>>
>> Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as possible.
> 
> As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
> 
> But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against Germany.

----------------------------

Naturally.

Was there anybody who didn't have emotions about what Germany was doing 
at the time.

> 
> 
> ...
> 
> 
> TH

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#662038

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-21 15:25 -0700
Message-ID<vrkp0i$2gjfo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#662035
neus wrote:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Now, I'm going to tell you something you
>>> never heard before...
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as 
>>> possible.
>>
>> As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
>>
>> But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against 
>> Germany.
> 
> ----------------------------
> 
> Naturally.
> 
> Was there anybody who didn't have emotions about what Germany was 
> doing at the time.

By the time of the Manhattan Project he was an old man who did not 
understand nuclear physics as well as others. He did not express 
hate of Germany or Japan; he was a pacifist. He got involved for 
fear if Hitler had a bomb first, he would use it to kill. He 
expressed regret for signing the letter.

Only after May did the scientists realise their bomb might be used 
against the defenceless Japan.

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#662127

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-24 19:46 -0400
Message-ID<iqp3ujpat9fsliv9lse30ii8gte7po7fa3@4ax.com>
In reply to#662038
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 15:25:18 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Only after May did the scientists realise their bomb might be used 
>against the defenceless Japan.

Defenseless, my ass.

Those bombs saved at least hundreds of thousands of lives.

Those two bombs killed somewhere south of a quarter million souls.

One incendiary bombing of Tokyo killed 88,000.

Millions would have died taking the islands on foot.

How many more such bombings of cities would have been needed?  
How many more ships sunk and sailors drowned?  
How many men blown to bits or dying slowly of wounds, infection and
dehydration in the tropical heat?  

More importantly, how many children would have starved to death while
the American noose slowly tightened around their collective necks?

And today, there would be no South Korea, only a unified Communist
Korea.

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#662058

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-03-22 07:35 +0100
Message-ID<m4740nFgappU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#662035
Am Freitag000021, 21.03.2025 um 21:19 schrieb neus:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Now, I'm going to tell you something you
>>> never heard before...
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as possible.
>>
>> As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
>>
>> But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against Germany.
> 
> ----------------------------
> 
> Naturally.
> 
> Was there anybody who didn't have emotions about what Germany was doing 
> at the time.

Actually the Nazis had many supporters in other countries, too.

Especially Austria was very 'pro-Nazi'. Also the British King, Henry 
Ford, 'Wall street', several US-corporations, some Baltics, Rumanian, 
Ukrainians, Netherlands, Spanish and Danish people supported the Nazis 
and also volunteered in the German army.

But Einstein was anti-German long before the advent of Naziism.

He actually gave up German citizenship as a teenager and went to 
Switzerland to go to school.

He went to Berlin much later and worked together with Leo Szillard (who 
invented the atomic bomb).

This was, of course, only theoretically.

But Einstein and Szillard invented and patented something practical, 
which has only one known use: as part of a fast breeding reactor.

So, most likely the atomic bomb wasn't invented by the 'Manhattan 
project' at all, but much earlier and Einstein and Szillard already knew 
about that bomb and who had it.

(I would guess, the Russians had already nuclear bombs in the early 20th 
century and the so called 'Tunguska event' was actually a nuclear 
explosion.)

TH

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#662126

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-24 19:13 -0400
Message-ID<i8p3uj93bo39kua6gqradduvnk00g4t62g@4ax.com>
In reply to#662017
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:47:42 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:

>Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
>> Now, I'm going to tell you something you
>> never heard before...
>> 
>> Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as possible.
>
>As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
>
>But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against Germany.
>
>Actually he was born in Germany (at least that is his usual CV), but 
>didn't like Germans.

Maybe it was Nazis he didn't like.  He was a smart man.  I'd sure as
hell left by 1934 at least.

>I had actually doubts about his German origin and assumed, that he was 
>neither a Jew (possibly a Jesuit ?) nor a German, but Swiss citizen from 
>birth.

He was born into a middle class German Jewish family.  By adulthood,
his 'religion' was agnostic but not atheistic.  He believed in God but
followed no formal religion.  He acquired his Swiss citizenship in
1901.

>This would fit to many way-points of his life, which included going to 
>school in Aarau, studying at the ETH and working in Bern.
>
>Doubts about being a Jew stem from his rejection of the presidency of 
>Israel, which was offered to him.
>
>His goal???

To get a solution to a problem.

>Well, I have studied his paper ' on the electrodynamics of moving 
>bodies' extensively.
>
>The number of errors in it is so incredibly large, that this can't be 
>explained otherwise than as intention.

I'm glad you're so much smarter than *he* was!

>I had for instance compared Einstein's paper with the works of Heinrich 
>Hertz, which Einstein apparently used.

Ok.

>The book of Hertz was far better in form and content, but used very 
>similar equations.

Does that suprise you?

>Einstein gave no reference to used material at all, hence we can only 
>guess, whether Einstein knew the works of Hertz or not.
>
>But if he quoted Hertz, than the quotes were wrong, because Einstein 
>used the same variable names, but with different content.

Math is a language.  I'm sure they both spoke it.

>Also the equations themselves have slight differences.

Another surprise?

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#662135

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-03-25 10:40 +0100
Message-ID<m4fbv5Fq4cfU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#662126
Am Dienstag000025, 25.03.2025 um 00:13 schrieb Governor Swill:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:47:42 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
> wrote:
> 
>> Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Now, I'm going to tell you something you
>>> never heard before...
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as possible.
>>
>> As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
>>
>> But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against Germany.
>>
>> Actually he was born in Germany (at least that is his usual CV), but
>> didn't like Germans.
> 
> Maybe it was Nazis he didn't like.  He was a smart man.  I'd sure as
> hell left by 1934 at least.
> 

Sure, Einstein didn't like the Nazis.

But when he gave up German citizenship he was 16 and there were no Nazis 
in 1895 in Germany at all.

The Nazis come several decades later (founded around 1923).


>> I had actually doubts about his German origin and assumed, that he was
>> neither a Jew (possibly a Jesuit ?) nor a German, but Swiss citizen from
>> birth.
> 
> He was born into a middle class German Jewish family.  By adulthood,
> his 'religion' was agnostic but not atheistic.  He believed in God but
> followed no formal religion.  He acquired his Swiss citizenship in
> 1901.


My assumption was, that his CV was a fake.

So, we cannot say, whether or not he was actually German.

My guess was, that he was actually a Swiss citizen from birth and spoke 
French as second language from childhood on.

The language combination German/French/Italian is actually only common 
in Switzerland and not in Germany.

Some people with talents in languages speak these and even more 
languages, of course.

But Einstein had absolutely no talent for foreign languages, as we can 
see in his poor performance in English after ten years at Princeton.

Therefore his CV would make much more sense, if he wasn't neither German 
nor a Jew.

(A Jesuit from the north west of Switzerland would be a bet -possibly 
from Basel.)


Why Jesuits?

Well, he met several times with the Belgian Jesuit Georges Lemaitre.

Also the Einstein family lived next door to a Jesuit facility in Pavia.

(This would make it easy to simply ask the Einsteins over the garden 
fence, whether they could eventually 'adopt' somebody.)


...

TH

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#662136

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor)
Date2025-03-25 10:27 +0000
Message-ID<53e645ce60cb03cd29ac38792ea25ace@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#662135
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 9:40:08 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Dienstag000025, 25.03.2025 um 00:13 schrieb Governor Swill:
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:47:42 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Am Mittwoch000019, 19.03.2025 um 18:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>>> Now, I'm going to tell you something you
>>>> never heard before...
>>>>
>>>> Albert Einstein's goal was to kill as many Japaneese people as possible.
>>>
>>> As I see it, Einstein wasn't concerned with Japan at all.
>>>
>>> But Einstein had, as far as this is known, emotions against Germany.
>>>
>>> Actually he was born in Germany (at least that is his usual CV), but
>>> didn't like Germans.
>>
>> Maybe it was Nazis he didn't like.  He was a smart man.  I'd sure as
>> hell left by 1934 at least.
>>
>
> Sure, Einstein didn't like the Nazis.
>
> But when he gave up German citizenship he was 16 and there were no Nazis
> in 1895 in Germany at all.
>
> The Nazis come several decades later (founded around 1923).
>
>
>>> I had actually doubts about his German origin and assumed, that he was
>>> neither a Jew (possibly a Jesuit ?) nor a German, but Swiss citizen from
>>> birth.
>>
>> He was born into a middle class German Jewish family.  By adulthood,
>> his 'religion' was agnostic but not atheistic.  He believed in God but
>> followed no formal religion.  He acquired his Swiss citizenship in
>> 1901.
>
>
> My assumption was, that his CV was a fake.
>
> So, we cannot say, whether or not he was actually German.
>
> My guess was, that he was actually a Swiss citizen from birth and spoke
> French as second language from childhood on.
>
> The language combination German/French/Italian is actually only common
> in Switzerland and not in Germany.
>
> Some people with talents in languages speak these and even more
> languages, of course.
>
> But Einstein had absolutely no talent for foreign languages, as we can
> see in his poor performance in English after ten years at Princeton.
>
> Therefore his CV would make much more sense, if he wasn't neither German
> nor a Jew.
>
> (A Jesuit from the north west of Switzerland would be a bet -possibly
> from Basel.)
>
>
> Why Jesuits?
>
> Well, he met several times with the Belgian Jesuit Georges Lemaitre.

Well, if he did he would have learn proper physics.
Like Arindam learnt proper physics from his Belgian Jesuit physics
teacher Father Vassalo, SJ, back in 1969. When there were still genuine
scientists around, the corruptions were about to start from that time...

Woof woof
>
> Also the Einstein family lived next door to a Jesuit facility in Pavia.
>
> (This would make it easy to simply ask the Einsteins over the garden
> fence, whether they could eventually 'adopt' somebody.)
>
>
> ....
>
> TH

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#662156

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-03-27 08:39 +0100
Message-ID<m4kdl8F8vl7U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#662136
Am Dienstag000025, 25.03.2025 um 11:27 schrieb bertitaylor:
...
>>> He was born into a middle class German Jewish family.  By adulthood,
>>> his 'religion' was agnostic but not atheistic.  He believed in God but
>>> followed no formal religion.  He acquired his Swiss citizenship in
>>> 1901.
>>
>>
>> My assumption was, that his CV was a fake.
>>
>> So, we cannot say, whether or not he was actually German.
>>
>> My guess was, that he was actually a Swiss citizen from birth and spoke
>> French as second language from childhood on.
>>
>> The language combination German/French/Italian is actually only common
>> in Switzerland and not in Germany.
>>
>> Some people with talents in languages speak these and even more
>> languages, of course.
>>
>> But Einstein had absolutely no talent for foreign languages, as we can
>> see in his poor performance in English after ten years at Princeton.
>>
>> Therefore his CV would make much more sense, if he wasn't neither German
>> nor a Jew.
>>
>> (A Jesuit from the north west of Switzerland would be a bet -possibly
>> from Basel.)
>>
>>
>> Why Jesuits?
>>
>> Well, he met several times with the Belgian Jesuit Georges Lemaitre.
> 
> Well, if he did he would have learn proper physics.
> Like Arindam learnt proper physics from his Belgian Jesuit physics
> teacher Father Vassalo, SJ, back in 1969. When there were still genuine
> scientists around, the corruptions were about to start from that time...

Any such 'conspiracy' would require a reason.

Iow: if some entities go at length to fake a certain part of science and 
establish a person as a superhero, which simply wasn't, than some sort 
of reason should be the motivation.

If the Jesuits were part of this or possibly the Swiss, than we would 
need to have a closer look at the Vatican or Switzerland and search for 
something, what they could eventually like to hide.

But we could look at what Einastein did, too, and assume, this was meant 
as disinformation and aimed to move the public away from some sort of 
secret.

What could that secret possibly be???

The only things I could think of, which would justify such means:

time travel
artificial gold
remote seeing
simple, cheap and powerful methods of healing

If any of these (and a number of other topics) are possible, than having 
such means, while other have not, would be a strong motiviation.


TH


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#662160

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor)
Date2025-03-27 12:58 +0000
Message-ID<98fae025da9a5341633b54fa8faad366@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#662156
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 7:39:42 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Dienstag000025, 25.03.2025 um 11:27 schrieb bertitaylor:
> ....
>>>> He was born into a middle class German Jewish family.  By adulthood,
>>>> his 'religion' was agnostic but not atheistic.  He believed in God but
>>>> followed no formal religion.  He acquired his Swiss citizenship in
>>>> 1901.
>>>
>>>
>>> My assumption was, that his CV was a fake.
>>>
>>> So, we cannot say, whether or not he was actually German.
>>>
>>> My guess was, that he was actually a Swiss citizen from birth and spoke
>>> French as second language from childhood on.
>>>
>>> The language combination German/French/Italian is actually only common
>>> in Switzerland and not in Germany.
>>>
>>> Some people with talents in languages speak these and even more
>>> languages, of course.
>>>
>>> But Einstein had absolutely no talent for foreign languages, as we can
>>> see in his poor performance in English after ten years at Princeton.
>>>
>>> Therefore his CV would make much more sense, if he wasn't neither German
>>> nor a Jew.
>>>
>>> (A Jesuit from the north west of Switzerland would be a bet -possibly
>>> from Basel.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Why Jesuits?
>>>
>>> Well, he met several times with the Belgian Jesuit Georges Lemaitre.
>>
>> Well, if he did he would have learn proper physics.
>> Like Arindam learnt proper physics from his Belgian Jesuit physics
>> teacher Father Vassalo, SJ, back in 1969. When there were still genuine
>> scientists around, the corruptions were about to start from that time...
>
> Any such 'conspiracy' would require a reason.

Oh yes, go back to Egypt during Caesar's time. The Romans did not want
to worship Egyptian gods, no use for bird or jackal heads.

Similarly the elites among the Europeans did not want to get Hinduised.

Their top scholars knew that going by ancient Hindu literature, the
Hindu philosophy, manners, world-view, metaphysics, languages, grammar,
health, social systems were superior by far.

Colonialism, directly, was influencing the British who were in danger of
losing their Jewish heritage as a consequence.

So all efforts were in place by the European elites to suppress
Hinduism.

 Freudism, Marxism and Einsteinism  were developed by the Western elites
to corrupt the mind, society and science respectively. To make the world
a horrid, disgusting place. They were very successful in the last
century in doing that. Fortunately positive forces were also there and
that has led to some gains for the world in this century.

World wars were encouraged to break up British colonialism so that
direct relationships between the British and the Hindus could be
avoided.

Now exploitation is done by various financial tactics involving
corrupting the pseudoHindu elites. The goodness of the genuine British,
and the cultural excellence of the Hindus, have no interaction. Instead
there is cheap and sleazy US non-culture.

So Einstein as an agent of corruption was part of a much bigger deal.
Which worked very well for decades. Hinduism was made out to be a joke,
immature, silly, etc. that would vanish with western enlightenment.
Hindus were made to have crooked leaders who would brainwash them to
despise their own religion, and thus convert.

Precisely, Einstein's abolition of aether was an anti-Hindu trick. The
Indian scientist J C Bose had found the way to create electromagnetic
waves. He was hte first to do so.  That justified Maxwell's theory about
light as waves.  Now all waves need their medium, and that medium was
called aether which has an ancient sacred Sanskrit equivalent that is
aum.
>
> Iow: if some entities go at length to fake a certain part of science and
> establish a person as a superhero, which simply wasn't, than some sort
> of reason should be the motivation.

Deep, man, deep. Europeans suffered heavily to prevent them from getting
Hinduised. See, how they do their best to suppress Arindam. A single
Arindam can send their best brains scuttling off.  So they killfile him,
do not publish his writings, etc.
>
> If the Jesuits were part of this or possibly the Swiss, than we would
> need to have a closer look at the Vatican or Switzerland and search for
> something, what they could eventually like to hide.
>
> But we could look at what Einastein did, too, and assume, this was meant
> as disinformation and aimed to move the public away from some sort of
> secret.
>
> What could that secret possibly be???
>
> The only things I could think of, which would justify such means:
>
> time travel
> artificial gold
> remote seeing
> simple, cheap and powerful methods of healing
>
> If any of these (and a number of other topics) are possible, than having
> such means, while other have not, would be a strong motiviation.

Don't think so!  We won't be anything Hindu/Buddhist was the motivation.
And it was and is a very strong motivation.

Woof woof woof woof

Bertietaylor
>
>
> TH

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#662164

FromJohnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz>
Date2025-03-27 12:49 -0400
Message-ID<xxxxxx-0FFE5A.12490927032025@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#662160
In article <98fae025da9a5341633b54fa8faad366@www.novabbs.org>,
 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 7:39:42 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> > Am Dienstag000025, 25.03.2025 um 11:27 schrieb bertitaylor:
> > ....
> >>>> He was born into a middle class German Jewish family.  By adulthood,
> >>>> his 'religion' was agnostic but not atheistic.  He believed in God but
> >>>> followed no formal religion.  He acquired his Swiss citizenship in
> >>>> 1901.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My assumption was, that his CV was a fake.
> >>>
> >>> So, we cannot say, whether or not he was actually German.
> >>>
> >>> My guess was, that he was actually a Swiss citizen from birth and spoke
> >>> French as second language from childhood on.
> >>>
> >>> The language combination German/French/Italian is actually only common
> >>> in Switzerland and not in Germany.
> >>>
> >>> Some people with talents in languages speak these and even more
> >>> languages, of course.
> >>>
> >>> But Einstein had absolutely no talent for foreign languages, as we can
> >>> see in his poor performance in English after ten years at Princeton.
> >>>
> >>> Therefore his CV would make much more sense, if he wasn't neither German
> >>> nor a Jew.
> >>>
> >>> (A Jesuit from the north west of Switzerland would be a bet -possibly
> >>> from Basel.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Why Jesuits?
> >>>
> >>> Well, he met several times with the Belgian Jesuit Georges Lemaitre.
> >>
> >> Well, if he did he would have learn proper physics.
> >> Like Arindam learnt proper physics from his Belgian Jesuit physics
> >> teacher Father Vassalo, SJ, back in 1969. When there were still genuine
> >> scientists around, the corruptions were about to start from that time...
> >
> > Any such 'conspiracy' would require a reason.
> 
> Oh yes, go back to Egypt during Caesar's time. The Romans did not want
> to worship Egyptian gods, no use for bird or jackal heads.
> 
> Similarly the elites among the Europeans did not want to get Hinduised.
> 
> Their top scholars knew that going by ancient Hindu literature, the
> Hindu philosophy, manners, world-view, metaphysics, languages, grammar,
> health, social systems were superior by far.
> 
> Colonialism, directly, was influencing the British who were in danger of
> losing their Jewish heritage as a consequence.
> 
> So all efforts were in place by the European elites to suppress
> Hinduism.
> 
>  Freudism, Marxism and Einsteinism  were developed by the Western elites
> to corrupt the mind, society and science respectively. To make the world
> a horrid, disgusting place. They were very successful in the last
> century in doing that. Fortunately positive forces were also there and
> that has led to some gains for the world in this century.
> 
> World wars were encouraged to break up British colonialism so that
> direct relationships between the British and the Hindus could be
> avoided.
> 
> Now exploitation is done by various financial tactics involving
> corrupting the pseudoHindu elites. The goodness of the genuine British,
> and the cultural excellence of the Hindus, have no interaction. Instead
> there is cheap and sleazy US non-culture.
> 
> So Einstein as an agent of corruption was part of a much bigger deal.
> Which worked very well for decades. Hinduism was made out to be a joke,
> immature, silly, etc. that would vanish with western enlightenment.
> Hindus were made to have crooked leaders who would brainwash them to
> despise their own religion, and thus convert.
> 
> Precisely, Einstein's abolition of aether was an anti-Hindu trick. The
> Indian scientist J C Bose had found the way to create electromagnetic
> waves. He was hte first to do so.  That justified Maxwell's theory about
> light as waves.  Now all waves need their medium, and that medium was
> called aether which has an ancient sacred Sanskrit equivalent that is
> aum.
> >
> > Iow: if some entities go at length to fake a certain part of science and
> > establish a person as a superhero, which simply wasn't, than some sort
> > of reason should be the motivation.
> 
> Deep, man, deep. Europeans suffered heavily to prevent them from getting
> Hinduised. See, how they do their best to suppress Arindam. A single
> Arindam can send their best brains scuttling off.  So they killfile him,
> do not publish his writings, etc.
> >
> > If the Jesuits were part of this or possibly the Swiss, than we would
> > need to have a closer look at the Vatican or Switzerland and search for
> > something, what they could eventually like to hide.
> >
> > But we could look at what Einastein did, too, and assume, this was meant
> > as disinformation and aimed to move the public away from some sort of
> > secret.
> >
> > What could that secret possibly be???
> >
> > The only things I could think of, which would justify such means:
> >
> > time travel
> > artificial gold
> > remote seeing
> > simple, cheap and powerful methods of healing
> >
> > If any of these (and a number of other topics) are possible, than having
> > such means, while other have not, would be a strong motiviation.
> 
> Don't think so!  We won't be anything Hindu/Buddhist was the motivation.
> And it was and is a very strong motivation.
> 
> Woof woof woof woof
> 
> Bertietaylor

Wow.   Delusional psychosis, belief in kooky conspiracies AND 
persecution complex.  

You are a genuine nut case.   And you wonder why no one takes your "new  
physics" seriously.   Other than the fact that it is all impossible, you 
spout absolute gibberish about all kinds of topics.   What else?   The 
Earth is really flat?    Chemtrails really exist?  

Nice to see you are totally ignorant about everything, not just physics.   
At least you are consistent.   

This was fun at first, but now that it is clear you are truly sick it is 
no longer entertaining.   It is now just sad.   

I am done with you.  Get help.   Your life will be much better once you 
accept reality.

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#662166

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
Date2025-03-27 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<6c1003cd599c088e562de8cb6251b75b@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#662164
Fucking off, apes? Good.

Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

Bertietaylor

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#662169

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-03-28 07:54 +0100
Message-ID<m4mvd5Flfj8U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#662160
Am Donnerstag000027, 27.03.2025 um 13:58 schrieb bertitaylor:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 7:39:42 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Dienstag000025, 25.03.2025 um 11:27 schrieb bertitaylor:
>> ....
>>>>> He was born into a middle class German Jewish family.  By adulthood,
>>>>> his 'religion' was agnostic but not atheistic.  He believed in God but
>>>>> followed no formal religion.  He acquired his Swiss citizenship in
>>>>> 1901.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My assumption was, that his CV was a fake.
>>>>
>>>> So, we cannot say, whether or not he was actually German.
>>>>
>>>> My guess was, that he was actually a Swiss citizen from birth and spoke
>>>> French as second language from childhood on.
>>>>
>>>> The language combination German/French/Italian is actually only common
>>>> in Switzerland and not in Germany.
>>>>
>>>> Some people with talents in languages speak these and even more
>>>> languages, of course.
>>>>
>>>> But Einstein had absolutely no talent for foreign languages, as we can
>>>> see in his poor performance in English after ten years at Princeton.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore his CV would make much more sense, if he wasn't neither 
>>>> German
>>>> nor a Jew.
>>>>
>>>> (A Jesuit from the north west of Switzerland would be a bet -possibly
>>>> from Basel.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why Jesuits?
>>>>
>>>> Well, he met several times with the Belgian Jesuit Georges Lemaitre.
>>>
>>> Well, if he did he would have learn proper physics.
>>> Like Arindam learnt proper physics from his Belgian Jesuit physics
>>> teacher Father Vassalo, SJ, back in 1969. When there were still genuine
>>> scientists around, the corruptions were about to start from that time...
>>
>> Any such 'conspiracy' would require a reason.
> 
> Oh yes, go back to Egypt during Caesar's time. The Romans did not want
> to worship Egyptian gods, no use for bird or jackal heads.
> 
> Similarly the elites among the Europeans did not want to get Hinduised.
> 
> Their top scholars knew that going by ancient Hindu literature, the
> Hindu philosophy, manners, world-view, metaphysics, languages, grammar,
> health, social systems were superior by far.


I would allow religious freedom, but don't do that for physics and 
therefore would see no conncetion between religion and science.

People may believe in what ever they like and that would include 
Hinduism (if that's what they want).

But physics is international by its very nature and cannot take care 
about local believe systems.

This doesn't say, that pyhsics is atheistic, but religion and science 
are simply different stories.

The 'currency' of science is truth, whether the local authorities like 
that or not, irrespective of the local believe system.

TH

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