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Anti-relativist

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First post2024-12-24 12:21 -0800
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  Anti-relativist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 12:21 -0800
    Re: Anti-relativist Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 16:13 -0800
      Re: Anti-relativist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 20:12 -0800
        Re: Anti-relativist Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 11:10 -0800
        Re: Anti-relativist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 10:48 -0800
          Re: Anti-relativist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 23:51 -0800

#659810 — Anti-relativist

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-24 12:21 -0800
SubjectAnti-relativist
Message-ID<676B17D4.697B@ix.netcom.com>
Anti-relativist?   in Einstein's day means anti-JewishPhysics


dats wat dey used to call yous in einstein day.


einstein cult deniers

'Jewish physics'

"Galilean Electrodynamics"?

--


Einstein's Science


Albert Einstein is prejudiced against any scientist who is
not of his religion and race.

As he once told a Catholic Priest "...your grasp of physics is
'abominable'."

Which means :repugnantly hateful; detestable; loathsome

despicable
contemptible
damnable
cursed
accursed
diabolical
disgusting
revolting
repellent
repulsive
offensive
repugnant
abhorrent
reprehensible
atrocious
horrifying
execrable
foul
vile
wretched
miserable
horrible
awful
dreadful
appalling
abysmal
brutal
nauseating
horrid
nasty
disagreeable
unpleasant
distasteful
terrible
shocking
godawful
beastly




Einstein use a lot of hate speech on other scientist who are not
of his religion and race.

In other words, if you are not
of his religion and race...then you are "No men of science,"
EINSTEIN:"No men of science,"

As you can see for yourself in this conversation he had with a
reporter...


http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/ocr/
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3.pdf

REPORTER:""Why were men of science opposed
to your theory when you first made it
known ?"
EINSTEIN:"No men of science," he replied, em
phasizing the last'word, "were against
the theory."
REPORTER:"But there was some opposition?"
EINSTEIN:"Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
was purely political. Even the physicists who opposed my theory did so
for
political reasons?in my opinion, o'
course."
REPORTER:"What do you mean when you say
the opposition was political?"
EINSTEIN:"Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""


Okay, here is more of what Albert Einstein was thinking:

Reporter: "Why were men of science opposed
to your theory when you first made it
known ?"

Einstein: 'No fucking men of SCIENCE were against the theory.'

Reporter: "But there was some opposition?"

Einstein: 'Yeah, but that
was motherfuckin purely political. Even those fucking physi-cists who
opposed my theory did so for
stupid political reasons, that's a fact jack.'


Reporter: "What do you mean when you say
the opposition was political?"


Einstein: 'They are fuckin Anti-Semitics. Fuckin Jew Haters! Because
they know I'm a fucking Jew.'










-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659812

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-24 16:13 -0800
Message-ID<BnWdnWr9ULmP0_b6nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#659810
Merry Christmas to you, too.  Happy Hanukkah

Now go away

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#659814

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-24 20:12 -0800
Message-ID<676B863D.7825@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659812
Ross Finlayson wrote:
> 
> Merry Christmas to you, too.  Happy Hanukkah
> 
> Now go away


The Truth is...

there is no relativity between two clocks!

There is no relation between two clocks.

There are no forces between two clocks that
would in any way affect one clock from another.

NOTHING! No relations to each other!!


The Truth is...

there is no relativity between two clocks!



Does one clock slow the other clock down?


Of course not!


There is no relation between two clocks.



Does one clock even care what time it is on the other clock????



there is no relativity between two clocks



And Ross, I don't recall giving you permission to post here...






The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Anti-relativist?   in Einstein's day means anti-JewishPhysics
> 
> dats wat dey used to call yous in einstein day.
> 
> einstein cult deniers
> 
> 'Jewish physics'
> 
> "Galilean Electrodynamics"?
> 
> --
> 
> Einstein's Science
> 
> Albert Einstein is prejudiced against any scientist who is
> not of his religion and race.
> 
> As he once told a Catholic Priest "...your grasp of physics is
> 'abominable'."
> 
> Which means :repugnantly hateful; detestable; loathsome
> 
> despicable
> contemptible
> damnable
> cursed
> accursed
> diabolical
> disgusting
> revolting
> repellent
> repulsive
> offensive
> repugnant
> abhorrent
> reprehensible
> atrocious
> horrifying
> execrable
> foul
> vile
> wretched
> miserable
> horrible
> awful
> dreadful
> appalling
> abysmal
> brutal
> nauseating
> horrid
> nasty
> disagreeable
> unpleasant
> distasteful
> terrible
> shocking
> godawful
> beastly
> 
> Einstein use a lot of hate speech on other scientist who are not
> of his religion and race.
> 
> In other words, if you are not
> of his religion and race...then you are "No men of science,"
> EINSTEIN:"No men of science,"
> 
> As you can see for yourself in this conversation he had with a
> reporter...
> 
> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/
> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/ocr/
> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3.pdf
> 
> REPORTER:""Why were men of science opposed
> to your theory when you first made it
> known ?"
> EINSTEIN:"No men of science," he replied, em
> phasizing the last'word, "were against
> the theory."
> REPORTER:"But there was some opposition?"
> EINSTEIN:"Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
> was purely political. Even the physicists who opposed my theory did so
> for
> political reasons?in my opinion, o'
> course."
> REPORTER:"What do you mean when you say
> the opposition was political?"
> EINSTEIN:"Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
> answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""
> 
> Okay, here is more of what Albert Einstein was thinking:
> 
> Reporter: "Why were men of science opposed
> to your theory when you first made it
> known ?"
> 
> Einstein: 'No fucking men of SCIENCE were against the theory.'
> 
> Reporter: "But there was some opposition?"
> 
> Einstein: 'Yeah, but that
> was motherfuckin purely political. Even those fucking physi-cists who
> opposed my theory did so for
> stupid political reasons, that's a fact jack.'
> 
> Reporter: "What do you mean when you say
> the opposition was political?"
> 
> Einstein: 'They are fuckin Anti-Semitics. Fuckin Jew Haters! Because
> they know I'm a fucking Jew.'
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659819

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-25 11:10 -0800
Message-ID<PpGdnXM0SMVSxfH6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#659814
On 12/24/2024 08:12 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>
>> Merry Christmas to you, too.  Happy Hanukkah
>>
>> Now go away
>
>
> The Truth is...
>
> there is no relativity between two clocks!
>
> There is no relation between two clocks.
>
> There are no forces between two clocks that
> would in any way affect one clock from another.
>
> NOTHING! No relations to each other!!
>
>
> The Truth is...
>
> there is no relativity between two clocks!
>
>
>
> Does one clock slow the other clock down?
>
>
> Of course not!
>
>
> There is no relation between two clocks.
>
>
>
> Does one clock even care what time it is on the other clock????
>
>
>
> there is no relativity between two clocks
>
>
>
> And Ross, I don't recall giving you permission to post here...
>
>
>


The problems include that's just making problems.


Being "anti-relativist" may mean being "absolutist",
"idealist", say. Yet, our theories include relativism,
and include absolutism, and include idealism, and
include analytical discourse.

"Relativism" and "The Fourth Dimension" and the
changes of the time's around fin de sciecle or
1900 AD, from "natural order a Newtonian system
of the world" to "logicist positivism an empiricist
pragmatism a scientism", includes many different
changes in the dogma, and the doctrine, of the
discourse.


Then, relating that to "The Jewish Conspiracy",
is not accepted here, and it's just making problems,
might as well be all about "The Bavarian Illuminati",
Einstein's a pretty great guy, yet this is as much
about Carnap and the Vienna Circle, about the
changes from "Greek and German and British idealism",
and "scientist logicist positivism" after Compte and
Boole and Russell and Popper, "logicist positivism".


So, "logicist positivism" then of course made for
"existentialism and nihilism" and that then of
course made for all kinds of terrible things
like Engels and Marx and after Nietszche progressives
the anti-Platonic, rejecting the idealism, rejecting
the absolutism, and taking from the new science
perceived justifications of the free-for-all,
that's rejected by people who know that
there are _both_ of absolutism, and for
mathematical Platonism, and relativism,
or the analytical discourse about the
phenomenological or after Kant and Hegel,
who were both _both_ idealists, and, relativists.

Thusly, "inter-subjectivity" still makes for
an "inter-objectivity", and there are reasons
why one can look at theory that's merely objective
and absolute or merely subjective and relative.


So, I reject that you say anti-relativism is
necessarily anything racist and furthermore
dispute that critically taking apart Einstein's
theory is any attack on the man or his race.



Now, there's a saying "one can't fix stupid",
and it's true some have racist ideologies
that are immaterial to the science itself,
yet trying to make it the other way is
just double-stupid. Because others don't,
and, most don't!


Instead, thinking beings can consider the
greater theory, and have idealism, and have
both the idealist and analytic traditions,
with some sort of merest teleology, for the
ontology, and an object-sense for the necessary
phenomenological import so that theory can be good,
and the parts of that that are "not relativist"
and the parts of that that are "relativist"
can go together just fine.


Everything's related, is the idea.

Try thinking objectively in terms then,
that, it's not about you. Objectively,
personally, it's all about you, objectively,
impersonally, it's none about you.

Racist ideologies have been poisoning
discourse, and it's garbage.




Now, Merry Christmas to you, too. And Happy Hannukah.



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#659856

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-27 10:48 -0800
Message-ID<676EF66B.6454@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659814
Let me put it this way..

There is only one thing 
that caused life on earth..

but with so many people trying to
guess what that is, you get
billions of different reasons.

But there is still only one reason.

Problem is...you have too many frames of references.


You need to first get rid of this 'thing' you call...'frames of
reference'.


It creates too much misinformation.





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Ross Finlayson wrote:
> >
> > Merry Christmas to you, too.  Happy Hanukkah
> >
> > Now go away
> 
> The Truth is...
> 
> there is no relativity between two clocks!
> 
> There is no relation between two clocks.
> 
> There are no forces between two clocks that
> would in any way affect one clock from another.
> 
> NOTHING! No relations to each other!!
> 
> The Truth is...
> 
> there is no relativity between two clocks!
> 
> Does one clock slow the other clock down?
> 
> Of course not!
> 
> There is no relation between two clocks.
> 
> Does one clock even care what time it is on the other clock????
> 
> there is no relativity between two clocks
> 
> And Ross, I don't recall giving you permission to post here...
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Anti-relativist?   in Einstein's day means anti-JewishPhysics
> >
> > dats wat dey used to call yous in einstein day.
> >
> > einstein cult deniers
> >
> > 'Jewish physics'
> >
> > "Galilean Electrodynamics"?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Einstein's Science
> >
> > Albert Einstein is prejudiced against any scientist who is
> > not of his religion and race.
> >
> > As he once told a Catholic Priest "...your grasp of physics is
> > 'abominable'."
> >
> > Which means :repugnantly hateful; detestable; loathsome
> >
> > despicable
> > contemptible
> > damnable
> > cursed
> > accursed
> > diabolical
> > disgusting
> > revolting
> > repellent
> > repulsive
> > offensive
> > repugnant
> > abhorrent
> > reprehensible
> > atrocious
> > horrifying
> > execrable
> > foul
> > vile
> > wretched
> > miserable
> > horrible
> > awful
> > dreadful
> > appalling
> > abysmal
> > brutal
> > nauseating
> > horrid
> > nasty
> > disagreeable
> > unpleasant
> > distasteful
> > terrible
> > shocking
> > godawful
> > beastly
> >
> > Einstein use a lot of hate speech on other scientist who are not
> > of his religion and race.
> >
> > In other words, if you are not
> > of his religion and race...then you are "No men of science,"
> > EINSTEIN:"No men of science,"
> >
> > As you can see for yourself in this conversation he had with a
> > reporter...
> >
> > http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/
> > http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/ocr/
> > http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3.pdf
> >
> > REPORTER:""Why were men of science opposed
> > to your theory when you first made it
> > known ?"
> > EINSTEIN:"No men of science," he replied, em
> > phasizing the last'word, "were against
> > the theory."
> > REPORTER:"But there was some opposition?"
> > EINSTEIN:"Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
> > was purely political. Even the physicists who opposed my theory did so
> > for
> > political reasons?in my opinion, o'
> > course."
> > REPORTER:"What do you mean when you say
> > the opposition was political?"
> > EINSTEIN:"Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
> > answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""
> >
> > Okay, here is more of what Albert Einstein was thinking:
> >
> > Reporter: "Why were men of science opposed
> > to your theory when you first made it
> > known ?"
> >
> > Einstein: 'No fucking men of SCIENCE were against the theory.'
> >
> > Reporter: "But there was some opposition?"
> >
> > Einstein: 'Yeah, but that
> > was motherfuckin purely political. Even those fucking physi-cists who
> > opposed my theory did so for
> > stupid political reasons, that's a fact jack.'
> >
> > Reporter: "What do you mean when you say
> > the opposition was political?"
> >
> > Einstein: 'They are fuckin Anti-Semitics. Fuckin Jew Haters! Because
> > they know I'm a fucking Jew.'
-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659890

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-27 23:51 -0800
Message-ID<676FAE1C.137A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659856
In other words, ...
nobody can agree what time it is now because
nobody knows what time it is now.

Nobody.

Frame of reference is false reference.







The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Let me put it this way..
> 
> There is only one thing
> that caused life on earth..
> 
> but with so many people trying to
> guess what that is, you get
> billions of different reasons.
> 
> But there is still only one reason.
> 
> Problem is...you have too many frames of references.
> 
> You need to first get rid of this 'thing' you call...'frames of
> reference'.
> 
> It creates too much misinformation.
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Ross Finlayson wrote:
> > >
> > > Merry Christmas to you, too.  Happy Hanukkah
> > >
> > > Now go away
> >
> > The Truth is...
> >
> > there is no relativity between two clocks!
> >
> > There is no relation between two clocks.
> >
> > There are no forces between two clocks that
> > would in any way affect one clock from another.
> >
> > NOTHING! No relations to each other!!
> >
> > The Truth is...
> >
> > there is no relativity between two clocks!
> >
> > Does one clock slow the other clock down?
> >
> > Of course not!
> >
> > There is no relation between two clocks.
> >
> > Does one clock even care what time it is on the other clock????
> >
> > there is no relativity between two clocks
> >
> > And Ross, I don't recall giving you permission to post here...
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Anti-relativist?   in Einstein's day means anti-JewishPhysics
> > >
> > > dats wat dey used to call yous in einstein day.
> > >
> > > einstein cult deniers
> > >
> > > 'Jewish physics'
> > >
> > > "Galilean Electrodynamics"?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Einstein's Science
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein is prejudiced against any scientist who is
> > > not of his religion and race.
> > >
> > > As he once told a Catholic Priest "...your grasp of physics is
> > > 'abominable'."
> > >
> > > Which means :repugnantly hateful; detestable; loathsome
> > >
> > > despicable
> > > contemptible
> > > damnable
> > > cursed
> > > accursed
> > > diabolical
> > > disgusting
> > > revolting
> > > repellent
> > > repulsive
> > > offensive
> > > repugnant
> > > abhorrent
> > > reprehensible
> > > atrocious
> > > horrifying
> > > execrable
> > > foul
> > > vile
> > > wretched
> > > miserable
> > > horrible
> > > awful
> > > dreadful
> > > appalling
> > > abysmal
> > > brutal
> > > nauseating
> > > horrid
> > > nasty
> > > disagreeable
> > > unpleasant
> > > distasteful
> > > terrible
> > > shocking
> > > godawful
> > > beastly
> > >
> > > Einstein use a lot of hate speech on other scientist who are not
> > > of his religion and race.
> > >
> > > In other words, if you are not
> > > of his religion and race...then you are "No men of science,"
> > > EINSTEIN:"No men of science,"
> > >
> > > As you can see for yourself in this conversation he had with a
> > > reporter...
> > >
> > > http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/
> > > http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/ocr/
> > > http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3.pdf
> > >
> > > REPORTER:""Why were men of science opposed
> > > to your theory when you first made it
> > > known ?"
> > > EINSTEIN:"No men of science," he replied, em
> > > phasizing the last'word, "were against
> > > the theory."
> > > REPORTER:"But there was some opposition?"
> > > EINSTEIN:"Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
> > > was purely political. Even the physicists who opposed my theory did so
> > > for
> > > political reasons?in my opinion, o'
> > > course."
> > > REPORTER:"What do you mean when you say
> > > the opposition was political?"
> > > EINSTEIN:"Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
> > > answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""
> > >
> > > Okay, here is more of what Albert Einstein was thinking:
> > >
> > > Reporter: "Why were men of science opposed
> > > to your theory when you first made it
> > > known ?"
> > >
> > > Einstein: 'No fucking men of SCIENCE were against the theory.'
> > >
> > > Reporter: "But there was some opposition?"
> > >
> > > Einstein: 'Yeah, but that
> > > was motherfuckin purely political. Even those fucking physi-cists who
> > > opposed my theory did so for
> > > stupid political reasons, that's a fact jack.'
> > >
> > > Reporter: "What do you mean when you say
> > > the opposition was political?"
> > >
> > > Einstein: 'They are fuckin Anti-Semitics. Fuckin Jew Haters! Because
> > > they know I'm a fucking Jew.'
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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