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  the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-02 16:22 -0700
    Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-02 22:12 -0700
      Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-03 10:04 -0700
      Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 x <x@x.org> - 2024-06-03 14:24 -0700
        Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 Richard Hachel <richard.hachel@invalid.fr> - 2024-06-04 10:40 +0000
        Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-04 14:01 +0200
        Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-06-04 15:27 +0200
    Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-04 11:44 -0700
      Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-05 07:52 +0200
        Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-04 23:04 -0700
          Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-06 07:31 +0200
            Re: the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-06 10:55 -0700

#654051 — the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905

the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905

Most people are not aware..(expecially in this newsgroup)

that in 1905 there was no papers by Albert Einstein  entitled

'the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905'.

It didn't exist. The titles have different names.

It wasn't called the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905.

Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????


Everybody HERE call the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905

The Special Theory of Relativity - 1905


but there was no such thing!!!!

wats wrong wit you people????

It's INSANITY!

There was no 'the Special Theory of Relativity' in 1905!

Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????


GET IT TOGETHER.

do something right for once!

you people are insane...










-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#654070

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> 
> Most people are not aware..(expecially in this newsgroup)
> 
> that in 1905 there was no papers by Albert Einstein  entitled
> 
> 'the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905'.
> 
> It didn't exist. The titles have different names.
> 
> It wasn't called the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905.
> 
> Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????
> 
> Everybody HERE call the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> 
> The Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> 
> but there was no such thing!!!!
> 
> wats wrong wit you people????
> 
> It's INSANITY!
> 
> There was no 'the Special Theory of Relativity' in 1905!
> 
> Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????
> 
> GET IT TOGETHER.
> 
> do something right for once!
> 
> you people are insane...

Here are the actual titles of his 1905 papers:

ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES
DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY CONTENT?
 by A. Einstein [Annalen der Physik 18 (1905)


Where is the title:  the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905????


The Truth...it doesn't exist.



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#654078

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> >
> > Most people are not aware..(expecially in this newsgroup)
> >
> > that in 1905 there was no papers by Albert Einstein  entitled
> >
> > 'the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905'.
> >
> > It didn't exist. The titles have different names.
> >
> > It wasn't called the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905.
> >
> > Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????
> >
> > Everybody HERE call the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> >
> > The Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> >
> > but there was no such thing!!!!
> >
> > wats wrong wit you people????
> >
> > It's INSANITY!
> >
> > There was no 'the Special Theory of Relativity' in 1905!
> >
> > Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????
> >
> > GET IT TOGETHER.
> >
> > do something right for once!
> >
> > you people are insane...
> 
> Here are the actual titles of his 1905 papers:
> 
> ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES
> DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY CONTENT?
>  by A. Einstein [Annalen der Physik 18 (1905)
> 
> Where is the title:  the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905????
> 
> The Truth...it doesn't exist.

wada u do? yous go back in Time and change titles of books...

yous people are into a lot of underhanded stuff..

need to keep an eye on yous Dr. Fausi people.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#654082

On 6/2/24 22:12, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
>>
>> Most people are not aware..(expecially in this newsgroup)
>>
>> that in 1905 there was no papers by Albert Einstein  entitled
>>
>> 'the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905'.
>>
>> It didn't exist. The titles have different names.
>>
>> It wasn't called the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905.
>>
>> Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????
>>
>> Everybody HERE call the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
>>
>> The Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
>>
>> but there was no such thing!!!!
>>
>> wats wrong wit you people????
>>
>> It's INSANITY!
>>
>> There was no 'the Special Theory of Relativity' in 1905!
>>
>> Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????
>>
>> GET IT TOGETHER.
>>
>> do something right for once!
>>
>> you people are insane...
> 
> Here are the actual titles of his 1905 papers:
> 
> ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES
> DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY CONTENT?
>   by A. Einstein [Annalen der Physik 18 (1905)
> 
> 
> Where is the title:  the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905????
> 
> 
> The Truth...it doesn't exist.

This is a test post.

There is a religion called psychology.

It appeals to atheists.

Do words have meaning?

Different languages have different symbols or sound patterns.

There is the concept of health and disease.

That is applied to the bodies of plants and animals.

Then there is the phenomenon of ideas and minds.

In general there is the concept of 'truth' and 'lies'
and that is often applied to 'ideas'.  Are 'ideas'
'true' or 'false'.

Then there is 'Psyche' the wife of Cupid in the Greco-Roman
religion.

'Psyche' is some times translated as meaning 'soul'.  Do
'souls' exist?  Can they be studied.

The article of faith of the belief system or pseudoscience
called 'psychology' however is that minds undergo a health
or disease process similar to the bodies of plants and
animals.

Now in computers there is the concept of 'hardware' and
'software'.

There is also something called 'brains' and 'minds'.

Psychology utterly confuses the two.

It ceases to be 'science' when it crosses the line, and
decides that 'mental health' and 'mental disease' are
something different from true ideas and good habits,
or false ideas and bad habits.

Now when it comes to Einstein there was a paperback
book some while ago, and my guess is that it is still
in print.

He came up with the idea of 'special relativity' and
the later 'general relativity'.

Now 'semantics' has to do with the meaning of words.

When it comes to gravity, there is also something called
'static electricity'.  Is 'space-time' bent opposite for
a positive charges versus a negative charge in an electric
field?  But there is also 'ether'.  Just change the meaning
of the word 'ether' to note all of the properties of
what is sometimes called 'space-time'.  What is the
meaning of the words 'true' or 'false'?

When it comes to special relativity, however, the speed of
light is a CONSTANT, and that is an OBSERVED PROPERTY.
(Sorry if all caps are too severe for you.)  He may have
called something 'special' and 'general' later.  I think
he wrote that book a lot later.

As far as 'mental health' and 'mental disease' versus
'truth' and 'lies' all you can do is shrug.

This post will probably not get sent.

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#654085

Le 03/06/2024 à 23:24, x a écrit :
> 
> When it comes to special relativity, however, the speed of
> light is a CONSTANT, and that is an OBSERVED PROPERTY.
> (Sorry if all caps are too severe for you.)  He may have
> called something 'special' and 'general' later.  I think
> he wrote that book a lot later.
> 
> As far as 'mental health' and 'mental disease' versus

It is very likely that there was copying, plagiarism, and late 
corrections, etc.
Relativity is a kind of religion (not necessarily false, by the way), and 
every religion fakes “for the good of the consumer”.

R.H. 

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#654086

W dniu 03.06.2024 o 23:24, x pisze:

> When it comes to special relativity, however, the speed of
> light is a CONSTANT, and that is an OBSERVED PROPERTY.

Only such a naive idiot can believe such an
idiotic lie, and even your insane guru was
unable to stick to it for a long time and
his GR shit had to reject it.
You may despise psychology, but it is still
able to override whatever you've been told
and are believing.

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#654087

Den 03.06.2024 23:24, skrev x:
> On 6/2/24 22:12, The Starmaker wrote:
> Now when it comes to Einstein there was a paperback
> book some while ago, and my guess is that it is still
> in print.


You are probably referring to
"Relativity: The Special and General Theory"

It is a popular book, not a scientific paper.

https://paulba.no/paper/relativity.pdf


> 
> He came up with the idea of 'special relativity' and
> the later 'general relativity'.
> 
> Now 'semantics' has to do with the meaning of words.
> 
> When it comes to gravity, there is also something called
> 'static electricity'.  Is 'space-time' bent opposite for
> a positive charges versus a negative charge in an electric
> field?  But there is also 'ether'.  Just change the meaning
> of the word 'ether' to note all of the properties of
> what is sometimes called 'space-time'.  What is the
> meaning of the words 'true' or 'false'?
> 
> When it comes to special relativity, however, the speed of
> light is a CONSTANT, and that is an OBSERVED PROPERTY.
> (Sorry if all caps are too severe for you.)  He may have
> called something 'special' and 'general' later.  I think
> he wrote that book a lot later.
> 

The names General Relativity and Special Relativity
were introduced in his "GR-paper":

The Foundation of the General Theory of Relativity

https://paulba.no/paper/Foundation_of_GR.pdf

See the very first statement.

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#654089

Now, I know most of yous need to go back to skool to Learn what is Relativity all a'bout.


Luckly, CHILDREN are learing Relativity the right way...the way Einstein intended..

Einstein's only desire was to use the formula in his 1905 paper to build an atomic bomb.


Now children are learning how to build an atomic bomb.




You can too!


Just go back to skool.


(Remember, most of albert einstein students worked at the manhattan project)






The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> 
> Most people are not aware..(expecially in this newsgroup)
> 
> that in 1905 there was no papers by Albert Einstein  entitled
> 
> 'the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905'.
> 
> It didn't exist. The titles have different names.
> 
> It wasn't called the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905.
> 
> Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????
> 
> Everybody HERE call the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> 
> The Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> 
> but there was no such thing!!!!
> 
> wats wrong wit you people????
> 
> It's INSANITY!
> 
> There was no 'the Special Theory of Relativity' in 1905!
> 
> Certaintly not in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, ...when????
> 
> GET IT TOGETHER.
> 
> do something right for once!
> 
> you people are insane...
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#654102

Am Dienstag000004, 04.06.2024 um 20:44 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Now, I know most of yous need to go back to skool to Learn what is Relativity all a'bout.
> 
> 
> Luckly, CHILDREN are learing Relativity the right way...the way Einstein intended..
> 
> Einstein's only desire was to use the formula in his 1905 paper to build an atomic bomb.
> 
> 
> Now children are learning how to build an atomic bomb.
Well, theoretically true.

But actuall bomb building is greatly limitted by lack of the parts.
> 
> 
> You can too!
> 
> 
> Just go back to skool.
> 
> 
> (Remember, most of albert einstein students worked at the manhattan project)
> 
Einstein worked together with Leo Szillard already in Berlin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Szilard

These two (Einstein and Szillard) patented a device, which is called 
'Einstein fridge'.

The students who tried to replicate that fridge found, that it didn't work.

The only known use of this device is as part of a fast breading reactor.

So, possibly, Einstein and Szillard didn't tell the whole truth.



> 
> 
> 
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
>>
>> Most people are not aware..(expecially in this newsgroup)
>>
>> that in 1905 there was no papers by Albert Einstein  entitled
>>
>> 'the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905'.
>>
>> It didn't exist. The titles have different names.
>>
Einstein wrote four goundbraking papers in 1905 (besides of twenty 
reviews for Annalen der Physik and some minor stuff).

One of these papers won him a Nobel price and one is commenly called 'SRT'.

The actual titel was 'Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Körper' (on the 
electrodynamics of moving bodies).

Einstein worked at this time in the patent office in Bern (usually six 
days a week with ten hours each) and had a family with a new born baby.

What made me wonder: when did he sleep?


TH

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#654103

Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Dienstag000004, 04.06.2024 um 20:44 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > Now, I know most of yous need to go back to skool to Learn what is Relativity all a'bout.
> >
> >
> > Luckly, CHILDREN are learing Relativity the right way...the way Einstein intended..
> >
> > Einstein's only desire was to use the formula in his 1905 paper to build an atomic bomb.
> >
> >
> > Now children are learning how to build an atomic bomb.
> Well, theoretically true.
> 
> But actuall bomb building is greatly limitted by lack of the parts.
> >
> >
> > You can too!
> >
> >
> > Just go back to skool.
> >
> >
> > (Remember, most of albert einstein students worked at the manhattan project)
> >
> Einstein worked together with Leo Szillard already in Berlin.

Leo Szillard was once a student in school and his teacher was Albert
Einstein.


> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Szilard
> 
> These two (Einstein and Szillard) patented a device, which is called
> 'Einstein fridge'.
> 
> The students who tried to replicate that fridge found, that it didn't work.
> 
> The only known use of this device is as part of a fast breading reactor.
> 
> So, possibly, Einstein and Szillard didn't tell the whole truth.
>


The Truth is, (that nobody wants to talk about)..the truth is...


NONE OF Szillard'S patents worked!


The Military discovered this fact when he 
was trying to cash in his chips and his
patents didn't work. 

In Einstein's days, you could file a patent that didn't work.
You had Albert Einstein to vouch for you.












 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905
> >>
> >> Most people are not aware..(expecially in this newsgroup)
> >>
> >> that in 1905 there was no papers by Albert Einstein  entitled
> >>
> >> 'the Special Theory of Relativity - 1905'.
> >>
> >> It didn't exist. The titles have different names.
> >>
> Einstein wrote four goundbraking papers in 1905 (besides of twenty
> reviews for Annalen der Physik and some minor stuff).
> 
> One of these papers won him a Nobel price and one is commenly called 'SRT'.
> 
> The actual titel was 'Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Körper' (on the
> electrodynamics of moving bodies).
> 
> Einstein worked at this time in the patent office in Bern (usually six
> days a week with ten hours each) and had a family with a new born baby.
> 
> What made me wonder: when did he sleep?
> 
> TH

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#654121

Am Mittwoch000005, 05.06.2024 um 08:04 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am Dienstag000004, 04.06.2024 um 20:44 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Now, I know most of yous need to go back to skool to Learn what is Relativity all a'bout.
>>>
>>>
>>> Luckly, CHILDREN are learing Relativity the right way...the way Einstein intended..
>>>
>>> Einstein's only desire was to use the formula in his 1905 paper to build an atomic bomb.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now children are learning how to build an atomic bomb.
>> Well, theoretically true.
>>
>> But actuall bomb building is greatly limitted by lack of the parts.
>>>
>>>
>>> You can too!
>>>
>>>
>>> Just go back to skool.
>>>
>>>
>>> (Remember, most of albert einstein students worked at the manhattan project)
>>>
>> Einstein worked together with Leo Szillard already in Berlin.
> 
> Leo Szillard was once a student in school and his teacher was Albert
> Einstein.
> 
> 
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Szilard
>>
>> These two (Einstein and Szillard) patented a device, which is called
>> 'Einstein fridge'.
>>
>> The students who tried to replicate that fridge found, that it didn't work.
>>
>> The only known use of this device is as part of a fast breading reactor.
>>
>> So, possibly, Einstein and Szillard didn't tell the whole truth.
>>
> 
> 
> The Truth is, (that nobody wants to talk about)..the truth is...
> 
> 
> NONE OF Szillard'S patents worked!


The 'Fridge' works, but isn't a fridge.

It is used in fast breeding reactors today.

So: why did Einstein patent a part of a fast breeding reactor in Berlin, 
long before the advent of the breeding reactor itself????

Possibly, this was not the case and the fast breeding reactor was 
already invented then and at least Einstein and Szillard knew about them 
and how they worked and what they were used for.

To cover this the name 'fridge' was used, even if the thing didn't cool.

That in turn would require some knowledge about Plutonium and what THAT 
was used for.


TH
> 
...

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#654122

Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Mittwoch000005, 05.06.2024 um 08:04 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>
> >> Am Dienstag000004, 04.06.2024 um 20:44 schrieb The Starmaker:
> >>> Now, I know most of yous need to go back to skool to Learn what is Relativity all a'bout.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Luckly, CHILDREN are learing Relativity the right way...the way Einstein intended..
> >>>
> >>> Einstein's only desire was to use the formula in his 1905 paper to build an atomic bomb.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Now children are learning how to build an atomic bomb.
> >> Well, theoretically true.
> >>
> >> But actuall bomb building is greatly limitted by lack of the parts.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You can too!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just go back to skool.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> (Remember, most of albert einstein students worked at the manhattan project)
> >>>
> >> Einstein worked together with Leo Szillard already in Berlin.
> >
> > Leo Szillard was once a student in school and his teacher was Albert
> > Einstein.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Szilard
> >>
> >> These two (Einstein and Szillard) patented a device, which is called
> >> 'Einstein fridge'.
> >>
> >> The students who tried to replicate that fridge found, that it didn't work.
> >>
> >> The only known use of this device is as part of a fast breading reactor.
> >>
> >> So, possibly, Einstein and Szillard didn't tell the whole truth.
> >>
> >
> >
> > The Truth is, (that nobody wants to talk about)..the truth is...
> >
> >
> > NONE OF Szillard'S patents worked!
> 
> The 'Fridge' works, but isn't a fridge.


I was talking about Szillard'S patents, NOT Einstein's patents.



> 
> It is used in fast breeding reactors today.
> 
> So: why did Einstein patent a part of a fast breeding reactor in Berlin,
> long before the advent of the breeding reactor itself????
> 
> Possibly, this was not the case and the fast breeding reactor was
> already invented then and at least Einstein and Szillard knew about them
> and how they worked and what they were used for.
> 
> To cover this the name 'fridge' was used, even if the thing didn't cool.
> 
> That in turn would require some knowledge about Plutonium and what THAT
> was used for.
> 
> TH
> >
> ...


I don't know how many times I pointed out...it was Albert Einstein that
INVENTED the Nucluer Reactor.

I don't know where you got the word 'fridge' from?


But if you look at the original patent it mentions 'can also be used for
other purposes like refrideration system.'

"can also be used for" meaning Not the intended purpose.


 





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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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