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Too Many Clocks

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2023-09-20 23:33 -0700
Last post2023-09-21 23:00 -0700
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  Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-20 23:33 -0700
    Re: Too Many Clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-09-21 11:04 +0200
      Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-21 13:20 -0700
        Re: Too Many Clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-09-21 22:59 +0200
          Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-21 22:05 -0700
            Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-21 23:02 -0700
            Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-25 14:43 -0700
              Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-26 23:06 -0700
                Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-26 23:44 -0700
      Re: Too Many Clocks Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-21 22:50 -0700
        Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-21 23:00 -0700

#620605 — Too Many Clocks

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-09-20 23:33 -0700
SubjectToo Many Clocks
Message-ID<voongi9fuf8bsbbcirs1rclr7sh83ai5ml@4ax.com>
I don't know
but somebody
 messed up
somewhere...
too many clocks
running at
different times.



--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#620607

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-09-21 11:04 +0200
Message-ID<1qheiqo.105fw5sgpsvnkN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#620605
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> I don't know
> but somebody
>  messed up
> somewhere...
> too many clocks
> running at
> different times.

Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
that we live in the best of all possible worlds,

Jan

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#620626

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-09-21 13:20 -0700
Message-ID<650CA570.1A81@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#620607
J. J. Lodder wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> > I don't know
> > but somebody
> >  messed up
> > somewhere...
> > too many clocks
> > running at
> > different times.
> 
> Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> 
> Jan


"possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#620628

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-09-21 22:59 +0200
Message-ID<1qhfiw4.3wehuxwgk3zkN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#620626
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I don't know
> > > but somebody
> > >  messed up
> > > somewhere...
> > > too many clocks
> > > running at
> > > different times.
> > 
> > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> > 
> > Jan
> 
> 
> "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..

Not surprised...

Jan

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#620659

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-09-21 22:05 -0700
Message-ID<650D2082.2C17@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#620628
J. J. Lodder wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't know
> > > > but somebody
> > > >  messed up
> > > > somewhere...
> > > > too many clocks
> > > > running at
> > > > different times.
> > >
> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> >
> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
> 
> Not surprised...
> 
> Jan


Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
matter)

but i like star-trek on tvee...

but...

Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be. 
Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world. 
Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
ideas such as possibility or necessity.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory

and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing. 


I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.


too many clocks
running at
different times, at
different rates..
it's confusing.

Does anybody know what time it is...now?

Or does anybody got the right time?


I got to figure out what time it is now...

i have to start counting from the
first 3 seconds.

You know, at the beginning...

tick, tick, tick..


How many ticks are there from
the first second to...Now?

Then I will have to correct time.




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#620669

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-09-21 23:02 -0700
Message-ID<650D2DD8.215C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#620659
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't know
> > > > > but somebody
> > > > >  messed up
> > > > > somewhere...
> > > > > too many clocks
> > > > > running at
> > > > > different times.
> > > >
> > > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> > > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
> >
> > Not surprised...
> >
> > Jan
> 
> Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
> matter)
> 
> but i like star-trek on tvee...
> 
> but...
> 
> Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be.
> Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world.
> Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
> ideas such as possibility or necessity.
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory
> 
> and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing.
> 
> I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.

In other words, possible worlds is ...just a theory.


And  Philosphy is dead.






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#620915

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-09-25 14:43 -0700
Message-ID<hmu3hip1972dmakukfhgco654ve8sabfd0@4ax.com>
In reply to#620659
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:05:06 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> > >
>> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I don't know
>> > > > but somebody
>> > > >  messed up
>> > > > somewhere...
>> > > > too many clocks
>> > > > running at
>> > > > different times.
>> > >
>> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
>> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
>> > >
>> > > Jan
>> >
>> >
>> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
>> 
>> Not surprised...
>> 
>> Jan
>
>
>Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
>matter)


Now, let me explain dis...

as a kid
i would go to
the library
to read books.
I would follow
the
Dewey Decimal System
it had there.

So, I would look at all 
the books between
001-999.

There was a section
in the back that had no
Dewey Decimal System.
It was called the Fiction section.
It had no Dewey Decimal System
numbers.
It had no facts in it, or an Index,
or anything resembling the
Dewey Decimal System.

Lot's of made up stuff.

So, I didn't bother to
this day with those 
type of books.

That is where it belongs, in the back.

I rather be a six year old
learning how to dissemble a machine gun.





>
>but i like star-trek on tvee...
>
>but...
>
>Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be. 
>Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world. 
>Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
>ideas such as possibility or necessity.
>https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory
>
>and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing. 
>
>
>I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.
>
>
>too many clocks
>running at
>different times, at
>different rates..
>it's confusing.
>
>Does anybody know what time it is...now?
>
>Or does anybody got the right time?
>
>
>I got to figure out what time it is now...
>
>i have to start counting from the
>first 3 seconds.
>
>You know, at the beginning...
>
>tick, tick, tick..
>
>
>How many ticks are there from
>the first second to...Now?
>
>Then I will have to correct time.


I figure
if I have a watch
at the big bang...
then I can set my watch
to the first three seconds...
and it should give the correct
time it is now...

(certainty it isn't the year 2023)

That is 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
ago,
https://81018.com/universeclock/


I just got
to wind my watch
436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
to know the correct time it is now.

(certainty it isn't the year 2023)

Nobody here has the correct time.

Too many clocks!





--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#621055

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-09-26 23:06 -0700
Message-ID<6513C67A.5A64@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#620915
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:05:06 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I don't know
> >> > > > but somebody
> >> > > >  messed up
> >> > > > somewhere...
> >> > > > too many clocks
> >> > > > running at
> >> > > > different times.
> >> > >
> >> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> >> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> >> > >
> >> > > Jan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
> >>
> >> Not surprised...
> >>
> >> Jan
> >
> >
> >Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
> >matter)
> 
> Now, let me explain dis...
> 
> as a kid
> i would go to
> the library
> to read books.
> I would follow
> the
> Dewey Decimal System
> it had there.
> 
> So, I would look at all
> the books between
> 001-999.
> 
> There was a section
> in the back that had no
> Dewey Decimal System.
> It was called the Fiction section.
> It had no Dewey Decimal System
> numbers.
> It had no facts in it, or an Index,
> or anything resembling the
> Dewey Decimal System.
> 
> Lot's of made up stuff.
> 
> So, I didn't bother to
> this day with those
> type of books.
> 
> That is where it belongs, in the back.
> 
> I rather be a six year old
> learning how to dissemble a machine gun.
> 
> >
> >but i like star-trek on tvee...
> >
> >but...
> >
> >Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be.
> >Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world.
> >Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
> >ideas such as possibility or necessity.
> >https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory
> >
> >and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing.
> >
> >
> >I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.
> >
> >
> >too many clocks
> >running at
> >different times, at
> >different rates..
> >it's confusing.
> >
> >Does anybody know what time it is...now?
> >
> >Or does anybody got the right time?
> >
> >
> >I got to figure out what time it is now...
> >
> >i have to start counting from the
> >first 3 seconds.
> >
> >You know, at the beginning...
> >
> >tick, tick, tick..
> >
> >
> >How many ticks are there from
> >the first second to...Now?
> >
> >Then I will have to correct time.
> 
> I figure
> if I have a watch
> at the big bang...
> then I can set my watch
> to the first three seconds...
> and it should give the correct
> time it is now...
> 
> (certainty it isn't the year 2023)
> 
> That is 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
> ago,
> https://81018.com/universeclock/
> 
> I just got
> to wind my watch
> 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
> to know the correct time it is now.
> 
> (certainty it isn't the year 2023)
> 
> Nobody here has the correct time.
> 
> Too many clocks!

Now, I need to first set my watch for the in the beginning of the big
bang...before the first three seconds...

was it Sunday or Monday? 


If I go by the beginning of the first week then that would be Monday,
right? It wasn't year one yet, or month, or week, or even day...

an hour didn't even pass by yet...it was only the first three seconds.







-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#621065

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-09-26 23:44 -0700
Message-ID<6513CF62.59D5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#621055
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:05:06 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > I don't know
> > >> > > > but somebody
> > >> > > >  messed up
> > >> > > > somewhere...
> > >> > > > too many clocks
> > >> > > > running at
> > >> > > > different times.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> > >> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Jan
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
> > >>
> > >> Not surprised...
> > >>
> > >> Jan
> > >
> > >
> > >Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
> > >matter)
> >
> > Now, let me explain dis...
> >
> > as a kid
> > i would go to
> > the library
> > to read books.
> > I would follow
> > the
> > Dewey Decimal System
> > it had there.
> >
> > So, I would look at all
> > the books between
> > 001-999.
> >
> > There was a section
> > in the back that had no
> > Dewey Decimal System.
> > It was called the Fiction section.
> > It had no Dewey Decimal System
> > numbers.
> > It had no facts in it, or an Index,
> > or anything resembling the
> > Dewey Decimal System.
> >
> > Lot's of made up stuff.
> >
> > So, I didn't bother to
> > this day with those
> > type of books.
> >
> > That is where it belongs, in the back.
> >
> > I rather be a six year old
> > learning how to dissemble a machine gun.
> >
> > >
> > >but i like star-trek on tvee...
> > >
> > >but...
> > >
> > >Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be.
> > >Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world.
> > >Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
> > >ideas such as possibility or necessity.
> > >https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory
> > >
> > >and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing.
> > >
> > >
> > >I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.
> > >
> > >
> > >too many clocks
> > >running at
> > >different times, at
> > >different rates..
> > >it's confusing.
> > >
> > >Does anybody know what time it is...now?
> > >
> > >Or does anybody got the right time?
> > >
> > >
> > >I got to figure out what time it is now...
> > >
> > >i have to start counting from the
> > >first 3 seconds.
> > >
> > >You know, at the beginning...
> > >
> > >tick, tick, tick..
> > >
> > >
> > >How many ticks are there from
> > >the first second to...Now?
> > >
> > >Then I will have to correct time.
> >
> > I figure
> > if I have a watch
> > at the big bang...
> > then I can set my watch
> > to the first three seconds...
> > and it should give the correct
> > time it is now...
> >
> > (certainty it isn't the year 2023)
> >
> > That is 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
> > ago,
> > https://81018.com/universeclock/
> >
> > I just got
> > to wind my watch
> > 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
> > to know the correct time it is now.
> >
> > (certainty it isn't the year 2023)
> >
> > Nobody here has the correct time.
> >
> > Too many clocks!
> 
> Now, I need to first set my watch for the in the beginning of the big
> bang...before the first three seconds...
> 
> was it Sunday or Monday?
> 
> If I go by the beginning of the first week then that would be Monday,
> right? It wasn't year one yet, or month, or week, or even day...
> 
> an hour didn't even pass by yet...it was only the first three seconds.


What I don't understand is why is it for yous peoples takings
sooo longs to understands thats the earth is the same age of the
universe?

The exact same age!


the exact same second...


Now I have to set my watch from the very first second of the big bang to
today to
know what time it is...Now.


nobody here on earth has the correct time.

Too Many Clocks




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#620667

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-09-21 22:50 -0700
Message-ID<cca04180-e0d9-46ec-a8e2-5b7f7a7a2737n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#620607
On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 11:04:34 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I don't know 
> > but somebody 
> > messed up 
> > somewhere... 
> > too many clocks 
> > running at 
> > different times.
> Blame god for it, 

So your idiot guru is now a god?

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#620668

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-09-21 23:00 -0700
Message-ID<650D2D6D.65AB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#620667
Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 11:04:34 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know
> > > but somebody
> > > messed up
> > > somewhere...
> > > too many clocks
> > > running at
> > > different times.
> > Blame god for it,
> 
> So your idiot guru is now a god?

i thoughts yous peoples believes gods haves no says ins its...


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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