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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2023-09-20 23:33 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-09-21 23:00 -0700 |
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Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-20 23:33 -0700
Re: Too Many Clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-09-21 11:04 +0200
Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-21 13:20 -0700
Re: Too Many Clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-09-21 22:59 +0200
Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-21 22:05 -0700
Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-21 23:02 -0700
Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-25 14:43 -0700
Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-26 23:06 -0700
Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-26 23:44 -0700
Re: Too Many Clocks Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-21 22:50 -0700
Re: Too Many Clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-09-21 23:00 -0700
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-09-20 23:33 -0700 |
| Subject | Too Many Clocks |
| Message-ID | <voongi9fuf8bsbbcirs1rclr7sh83ai5ml@4ax.com> |
I don't know but somebody messed up somewhere... too many clocks running at different times. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-09-21 11:04 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qheiqo.105fw5sgpsvnkN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #620605 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > I don't know > but somebody > messed up > somewhere... > too many clocks > running at > different times. Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember that we live in the best of all possible worlds, Jan
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-09-21 13:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <650CA570.1A81@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #620607 |
J. J. Lodder wrote: > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > I don't know > > but somebody > > messed up > > somewhere... > > too many clocks > > running at > > different times. > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember > that we live in the best of all possible worlds, > > Jan "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means.. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-09-21 22:59 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1qhfiw4.3wehuxwgk3zkN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #620626 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > > I don't know > > > but somebody > > > messed up > > > somewhere... > > > too many clocks > > > running at > > > different times. > > > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds, > > > > Jan > > > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means.. Not surprised... Jan
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-09-21 22:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <650D2082.2C17@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #620628 |
J. J. Lodder wrote: > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I don't know > > > > but somebody > > > > messed up > > > > somewhere... > > > > too many clocks > > > > running at > > > > different times. > > > > > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember > > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds, > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means.. > > Not surprised... > > Jan Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that matter) but i like star-trek on tvee... but... Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be. Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world. Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss ideas such as possibility or necessity. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing. I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds. too many clocks running at different times, at different rates.. it's confusing. Does anybody know what time it is...now? Or does anybody got the right time? I got to figure out what time it is now... i have to start counting from the first 3 seconds. You know, at the beginning... tick, tick, tick.. How many ticks are there from the first second to...Now? Then I will have to correct time. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-09-21 23:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <650D2DD8.215C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #620659 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > > J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I don't know > > > > > but somebody > > > > > messed up > > > > > somewhere... > > > > > too many clocks > > > > > running at > > > > > different times. > > > > > > > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember > > > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds, > > > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means.. > > > > Not surprised... > > > > Jan > > Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that > matter) > > but i like star-trek on tvee... > > but... > > Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be. > Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world. > Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss > ideas such as possibility or necessity. > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory > > and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing. > > I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds. In other words, possible worlds is ...just a theory. And Philosphy is dead. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-09-25 14:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hmu3hip1972dmakukfhgco654ve8sabfd0@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #620659 |
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:05:06 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >J. J. Lodder wrote: >> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> > J. J. Lodder wrote: >> > > >> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > > I don't know >> > > > but somebody >> > > > messed up >> > > > somewhere... >> > > > too many clocks >> > > > running at >> > > > different times. >> > > >> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember >> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds, >> > > >> > > Jan >> > >> > >> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means.. >> >> Not surprised... >> >> Jan > > >Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that >matter) Now, let me explain dis... as a kid i would go to the library to read books. I would follow the Dewey Decimal System it had there. So, I would look at all the books between 001-999. There was a section in the back that had no Dewey Decimal System. It was called the Fiction section. It had no Dewey Decimal System numbers. It had no facts in it, or an Index, or anything resembling the Dewey Decimal System. Lot's of made up stuff. So, I didn't bother to this day with those type of books. That is where it belongs, in the back. I rather be a six year old learning how to dissemble a machine gun. > >but i like star-trek on tvee... > >but... > >Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be. >Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world. >Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss >ideas such as possibility or necessity. >https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory > >and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing. > > >I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds. > > >too many clocks >running at >different times, at >different rates.. >it's confusing. > >Does anybody know what time it is...now? > >Or does anybody got the right time? > > >I got to figure out what time it is now... > >i have to start counting from the >first 3 seconds. > >You know, at the beginning... > >tick, tick, tick.. > > >How many ticks are there from >the first second to...Now? > >Then I will have to correct time. I figure if I have a watch at the big bang... then I can set my watch to the first three seconds... and it should give the correct time it is now... (certainty it isn't the year 2023) That is 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds ago, https://81018.com/universeclock/ I just got to wind my watch 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds to know the correct time it is now. (certainty it isn't the year 2023) Nobody here has the correct time. Too many clocks! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-09-26 23:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6513C67A.5A64@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #620915 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:05:06 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >J. J. Lodder wrote: > >> > >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> > >> > J. J. Lodder wrote: > >> > > > >> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > I don't know > >> > > > but somebody > >> > > > messed up > >> > > > somewhere... > >> > > > too many clocks > >> > > > running at > >> > > > different times. > >> > > > >> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember > >> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds, > >> > > > >> > > Jan > >> > > >> > > >> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means.. > >> > >> Not surprised... > >> > >> Jan > > > > > >Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that > >matter) > > Now, let me explain dis... > > as a kid > i would go to > the library > to read books. > I would follow > the > Dewey Decimal System > it had there. > > So, I would look at all > the books between > 001-999. > > There was a section > in the back that had no > Dewey Decimal System. > It was called the Fiction section. > It had no Dewey Decimal System > numbers. > It had no facts in it, or an Index, > or anything resembling the > Dewey Decimal System. > > Lot's of made up stuff. > > So, I didn't bother to > this day with those > type of books. > > That is where it belongs, in the back. > > I rather be a six year old > learning how to dissemble a machine gun. > > > > >but i like star-trek on tvee... > > > >but... > > > >Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be. > >Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world. > >Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss > >ideas such as possibility or necessity. > >https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory > > > >and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing. > > > > > >I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds. > > > > > >too many clocks > >running at > >different times, at > >different rates.. > >it's confusing. > > > >Does anybody know what time it is...now? > > > >Or does anybody got the right time? > > > > > >I got to figure out what time it is now... > > > >i have to start counting from the > >first 3 seconds. > > > >You know, at the beginning... > > > >tick, tick, tick.. > > > > > >How many ticks are there from > >the first second to...Now? > > > >Then I will have to correct time. > > I figure > if I have a watch > at the big bang... > then I can set my watch > to the first three seconds... > and it should give the correct > time it is now... > > (certainty it isn't the year 2023) > > That is 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds > ago, > https://81018.com/universeclock/ > > I just got > to wind my watch > 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds > to know the correct time it is now. > > (certainty it isn't the year 2023) > > Nobody here has the correct time. > > Too many clocks! Now, I need to first set my watch for the in the beginning of the big bang...before the first three seconds... was it Sunday or Monday? If I go by the beginning of the first week then that would be Monday, right? It wasn't year one yet, or month, or week, or even day... an hour didn't even pass by yet...it was only the first three seconds. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-09-26 23:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6513CF62.59D5@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #621055 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:05:06 -0700, The Starmaker > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > >J. J. Lodder wrote: > > >> > > >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > J. J. Lodder wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > I don't know > > >> > > > but somebody > > >> > > > messed up > > >> > > > somewhere... > > >> > > > too many clocks > > >> > > > running at > > >> > > > different times. > > >> > > > > >> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember > > >> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds, > > >> > > > > >> > > Jan > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means.. > > >> > > >> Not surprised... > > >> > > >> Jan > > > > > > > > >Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that > > >matter) > > > > Now, let me explain dis... > > > > as a kid > > i would go to > > the library > > to read books. > > I would follow > > the > > Dewey Decimal System > > it had there. > > > > So, I would look at all > > the books between > > 001-999. > > > > There was a section > > in the back that had no > > Dewey Decimal System. > > It was called the Fiction section. > > It had no Dewey Decimal System > > numbers. > > It had no facts in it, or an Index, > > or anything resembling the > > Dewey Decimal System. > > > > Lot's of made up stuff. > > > > So, I didn't bother to > > this day with those > > type of books. > > > > That is where it belongs, in the back. > > > > I rather be a six year old > > learning how to dissemble a machine gun. > > > > > > > >but i like star-trek on tvee... > > > > > >but... > > > > > >Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be. > > >Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world. > > >Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss > > >ideas such as possibility or necessity. > > >https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory > > > > > >and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing. > > > > > > > > >I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds. > > > > > > > > >too many clocks > > >running at > > >different times, at > > >different rates.. > > >it's confusing. > > > > > >Does anybody know what time it is...now? > > > > > >Or does anybody got the right time? > > > > > > > > >I got to figure out what time it is now... > > > > > >i have to start counting from the > > >first 3 seconds. > > > > > >You know, at the beginning... > > > > > >tick, tick, tick.. > > > > > > > > >How many ticks are there from > > >the first second to...Now? > > > > > >Then I will have to correct time. > > > > I figure > > if I have a watch > > at the big bang... > > then I can set my watch > > to the first three seconds... > > and it should give the correct > > time it is now... > > > > (certainty it isn't the year 2023) > > > > That is 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds > > ago, > > https://81018.com/universeclock/ > > > > I just got > > to wind my watch > > 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds > > to know the correct time it is now. > > > > (certainty it isn't the year 2023) > > > > Nobody here has the correct time. > > > > Too many clocks! > > Now, I need to first set my watch for the in the beginning of the big > bang...before the first three seconds... > > was it Sunday or Monday? > > If I go by the beginning of the first week then that would be Monday, > right? It wasn't year one yet, or month, or week, or even day... > > an hour didn't even pass by yet...it was only the first three seconds. What I don't understand is why is it for yous peoples takings sooo longs to understands thats the earth is the same age of the universe? The exact same age! the exact same second... Now I have to set my watch from the very first second of the big bang to today to know what time it is...Now. nobody here on earth has the correct time. Too Many Clocks -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-09-21 22:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cca04180-e0d9-46ec-a8e2-5b7f7a7a2737n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #620607 |
On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 11:04:34 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote: > The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > I don't know > > but somebody > > messed up > > somewhere... > > too many clocks > > running at > > different times. > Blame god for it, So your idiot guru is now a god?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-09-21 23:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <650D2D6D.65AB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #620667 |
Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 11:04:34 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > > I don't know > > > but somebody > > > messed up > > > somewhere... > > > too many clocks > > > running at > > > different times. > > Blame god for it, > > So your idiot guru is now a god? i thoughts yous peoples believes gods haves no says ins its... -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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