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Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead)

Started byJulio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>
First post2022-10-17 02:46 -0700
Last post2022-10-19 17:13 -0700
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  Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2022-10-17 02:46 -0700
    Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-17 20:14 -0700
      Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 21:01 -0700
      Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-10-17 21:50 -0700
        Old fart, uber crank Pat Dolan is having wet dreams once again "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 22:15 -0700
          Re: Old fart, uber crank Pat Dolan is having wet dreams once again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-17 23:07 -0700
        Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 22:16 -0700
          Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 22:19 -0700
          Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-17 23:14 -0700
            Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 23:33 -0700
              Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-17 23:51 -0700
                Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 00:18 -0700
                  Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2022-10-18 02:43 -0700
                    Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 13:49 -0700
        Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2022-10-18 02:36 -0700
      Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2022-10-18 02:27 -0700
        Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-10-18 14:05 +0200
          Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-18 10:44 -0400
        Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 08:38 -0700
    Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-10-18 10:50 +0200
      Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2022-10-18 02:47 -0700
        Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-10-18 14:26 +0200
    Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-10-18 17:03 -0500
      Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-10-18 19:53 -0700
      Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2022-10-19 01:41 -0700
        Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-10-19 11:13 +0200
        Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 08:09 -0700
          Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-19 17:19 -0400
        Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 14:26 -0700
          Re: Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead) "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 17:13 -0700

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#593596 — Tom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead)

FromJulio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>
Date2022-10-17 02:46 -0700
SubjectTom Roberts is a fucking disgrace (and Usenet is dead)
Message-ID<9f72f1fb-c401-435f-a5fd-472b76357b34n@googlegroups.com>
For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace,
and other amenities along that line.

I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my
message through.  And, this is my last post to Usenet  anyway!
ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction.

On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote: 
> > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley 
> > wrote:
> >> [...] 
> 
> You are both overthinking this. 

No, they were both not even wrong!!  And *you*
keep adding even more nonsense and confusion
on top of any actual answers and explanations
I happen to give, yet again...

Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group
would be different, instead a post of mine on a
line of research for foundations was rejected as
"too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure
just this daily nonsense and institutional spam.

I am out of here: Usenet is dead.

*Plonk*

Julio

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#593634

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-10-17 20:14 -0700
Message-ID<634E1A15.73C3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#593596
Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> 
> For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace,
> and other amenities along that line.
> 
> I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my
> message through.  And, this is my last post to Usenet  anyway!
> ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction.
> 
> On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote:
> > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley
> > > wrote:
> > >> [...]
> >
> > You are both overthinking this.
> 
> No, they were both not even wrong!!  And *you*
> keep adding even more nonsense and confusion
> on top of any actual answers and explanations
> I happen to give, yet again...
> 
> Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group
> would be different, instead a post of mine on a
> line of research for foundations was rejected as
> "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure
> just this daily nonsense and institutional spam.
> 
> I am out of here: Usenet is dead.
> 
> *Plonk*
> 
> Julio


The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is
...Usenet.  


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#593638

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-17 21:01 -0700
Message-ID<787e1358-a743-4fe8-9c69-a70a0bb2d151n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593634
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Julio Di Egidio wrote: 
> > 
> > For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace, 
> > and other amenities along that line. 
> > 
> > I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my 
> > message through. And, this is my last post to Usenet anyway! 
> > ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction. 
> > 
> > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote: 
> > > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote: 
> > > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley 
> > > > wrote: 
> > > >> [...] 
> > > 
> > > You are both overthinking this. 
> > 
> > No, they were both not even wrong!! And *you* 
> > keep adding even more nonsense and confusion 
> > on top of any actual answers and explanations 
> > I happen to give, yet again... 
> > 
> > Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group 
> > would be different, instead a post of mine on a 
> > line of research for foundations was rejected as 
> > "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure 
> > just this daily nonsense and institutional spam. 
> > 
> > I am out of here: Usenet is dead. 
> > 
> > *Plonk* 
> > 
> > Julio
> The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is 
> ...Usenet. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

Leave Britney alone!

Dr. Roberts and Dr. Carlip for example, and, Stan, mostly, mostly though 
Dr. Roberts, is basically the word on what science says without being wrong.

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#593639

Frompatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
Date2022-10-17 21:50 -0700
Message-ID<0c04467d-095a-4a00-b825-5c3fec743c04n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593634
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Julio Di Egidio wrote: 
> > 
> > For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace, 
> > and other amenities along that line. 
> > 
> > I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my 
> > message through. And, this is my last post to Usenet anyway! 
> > ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction. 
> > 
> > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote: 
> > > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote: 
> > > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley 
> > > > wrote: 
> > > >> [...] 
> > > 
> > > You are both overthinking this. 
> > 
> > No, they were both not even wrong!! And *you* 
> > keep adding even more nonsense and confusion 
> > on top of any actual answers and explanations 
> > I happen to give, yet again... 
> > 
> > Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group 
> > would be different, instead a post of mine on a 
> > line of research for foundations was rejected as 
> > "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure 
> > just this daily nonsense and institutional spam. 
> > 
> > I am out of here: Usenet is dead. 
> > 
> > *Plonk* 
> > 
> > Julio
> The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is 
> ...Usenet. 
> 
> 

I agree with this.  This is the most advanced relativity gedanken facility in the world.  Well beyond every University seminar program.  Cyber archeologists will document this one day.  I would hate to be Dono when that day comes.
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

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#593640 — Old fart, uber crank Pat Dolan is having wet dreams once again

From"Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-17 22:15 -0700
SubjectOld fart, uber crank Pat Dolan is having wet dreams once again
Message-ID<37596001-53df-4647-996a-c1296f34a6den@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593639
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:

> I agree with this. This is the most advanced relativity gedanken facility in the world. Well beyond every University seminar program. Cyber archeologists will document this one day. I would hate to be Dono when that day comes.


Having wet dreams again, Pattycakes? 

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#593647 — Re: Old fart, uber crank Pat Dolan is having wet dreams once again

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-10-17 23:07 -0700
SubjectRe: Old fart, uber crank Pat Dolan is having wet dreams once again
Message-ID<634E42B3.1716@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#593640
Dono. wrote:
> 
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> 
> > I agree with this. This is the most advanced relativity gedanken facility in the world. Well beyond every University seminar program. Cyber archeologists will document this one day. I would hate to be Dono when that day comes.
> 
> Having wet dreams again, Pattycakes?

better than those dry dreams you only have...


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#593641

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-17 22:16 -0700
Message-ID<fa133901-7d9b-4b49-97af-b9d949c83b86n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593639
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Julio Di Egidio wrote: 
> > > 
> > > For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace, 
> > > and other amenities along that line. 
> > > 
> > > I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my 
> > > message through. And, this is my last post to Usenet anyway! 
> > > ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction. 
> > > 
> > > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote: 
> > > > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote: 
> > > > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley 
> > > > > wrote: 
> > > > >> [...] 
> > > > 
> > > > You are both overthinking this. 
> > > 
> > > No, they were both not even wrong!! And *you* 
> > > keep adding even more nonsense and confusion 
> > > on top of any actual answers and explanations 
> > > I happen to give, yet again... 
> > > 
> > > Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group 
> > > would be different, instead a post of mine on a 
> > > line of research for foundations was rejected as 
> > > "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure 
> > > just this daily nonsense and institutional spam. 
> > > 
> > > I am out of here: Usenet is dead. 
> > > 
> > > *Plonk* 
> > > 
> > > Julio 
> > The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is 
> > ...Usenet. 
> > 
> >
> I agree with this. This is the most advanced relativity gedanken facility in the world. Well beyond every University seminar program. Cyber archeologists will document this one day. I would hate to be Dono when that day comes.
> > -- 
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> > and challenge 
> > the unchallengeable.

No....

Same for Dono, just another say nothing, be right.

I carefully fought everybody pretty hard while writing my thesis that 
physics has a mathematics.

This way I earned their respect, including through fear.

I mean, come on StarMaker, I mean Patty, here it's that 
you are just talking about parallel Galilean frames in the 
space they are moving, their space contraction due 
their alignment has them seeing each other's image, carried 
along with them, as much as it is in terms of when the image 
starts rolling and for example lensing.

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#593643

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-17 22:19 -0700
Message-ID<2291b9c7-78b3-47fe-a84f-ee12cea03b12n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593641
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 10:16:16 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > Julio Di Egidio wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace, 
> > > > and other amenities along that line. 
> > > > 
> > > > I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my 
> > > > message through. And, this is my last post to Usenet anyway! 
> > > > ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction. 
> > > > 
> > > > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote: 
> > > > > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote: 
> > > > > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley 
> > > > > > wrote: 
> > > > > >> [...] 
> > > > > 
> > > > > You are both overthinking this. 
> > > > 
> > > > No, they were both not even wrong!! And *you* 
> > > > keep adding even more nonsense and confusion 
> > > > on top of any actual answers and explanations 
> > > > I happen to give, yet again... 
> > > > 
> > > > Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group 
> > > > would be different, instead a post of mine on a 
> > > > line of research for foundations was rejected as 
> > > > "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure 
> > > > just this daily nonsense and institutional spam. 
> > > > 
> > > > I am out of here: Usenet is dead. 
> > > > 
> > > > *Plonk* 
> > > > 
> > > > Julio 
> > > The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is 
> > > ...Usenet. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > I agree with this. This is the most advanced relativity gedanken facility in the world. Well beyond every University seminar program. Cyber archeologists will document this one day. I would hate to be Dono when that day comes. 
> > > -- 
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> > > and challenge 
> > > the unchallengeable.
> No.... 
> 
> Same for Dono, just another say nothing, be right. 
> 
> I carefully fought everybody pretty hard while writing my thesis that 
> physics has a mathematics. 
> 
> This way I earned their respect, including through fear. 
> 
> I mean, come on StarMaker, I mean Patty, here it's that 
> you are just talking about parallel Galilean frames in the 
> space they are moving, their space contraction due 
> their alignment has them seeing each other's image, carried 
> along with them, as much as it is in terms of when the image 
> starts rolling and for example lensing.

See, space contraction is all right and Tom Roberts is alright with it 
or he can take it up - or not.

It must solve all problems, it's only so simple.

Then the "parallel transport" you are mentioning is a thing.

Now research parallel transport and geometrodynamics, 
it's all one same thing.

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#593648

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-10-17 23:14 -0700
Message-ID<634E4440.2390@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#593641
Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> 
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace,
> > > > and other amenities along that line.
> > > >
> > > > I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my
> > > > message through. And, this is my last post to Usenet anyway!
> > > > ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction.
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote:
> > > > > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > You are both overthinking this.
> > > >
> > > > No, they were both not even wrong!! And *you*
> > > > keep adding even more nonsense and confusion
> > > > on top of any actual answers and explanations
> > > > I happen to give, yet again...
> > > >
> > > > Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group
> > > > would be different, instead a post of mine on a
> > > > line of research for foundations was rejected as
> > > > "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure
> > > > just this daily nonsense and institutional spam.
> > > >
> > > > I am out of here: Usenet is dead.
> > > >
> > > > *Plonk*
> > > >
> > > > Julio
> > > The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is
> > > ...Usenet.
> > >
> > >
> > I agree with this. This is the most advanced relativity gedanken facility in the world. Well beyond every University seminar program. Cyber archeologists will document this one day. I would hate to be Dono when that day comes.
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> 
> No....
> 
> Same for Dono, just another say nothing, be right.
> 
> I carefully fought everybody pretty hard while writing my thesis that
> physics has a mathematics.
> 
> This way I earned their respect, including through fear.
> 
> I mean, come on StarMaker, I mean Patty, here it's that
> you are just talking about parallel Galilean frames in the
> space they are moving, their space contraction due
> their alignment has them seeing each other's image, carried
> along with them, as much as it is in terms of when the image
> starts rolling and for example lensing.

There is *no place* in the universe where 'mathematics' exist...except
in the mind, same place where only 'evil' exist....in the mind.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#593649

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-17 23:33 -0700
Message-ID<6c24a842-6ac5-415c-94ce-2312d94bc212n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593648
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 11:14:15 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Ross A. Finlayson wrote: 
> > 
> > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote: 
> > > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > > Julio Di Egidio wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace, 
> > > > > and other amenities along that line. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my 
> > > > > message through. And, this is my last post to Usenet anyway! 
> > > > > ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote: 
> > > > > > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley 
> > > > > > > wrote: 
> > > > > > >> [...] 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You are both overthinking this. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > No, they were both not even wrong!! And *you* 
> > > > > keep adding even more nonsense and confusion 
> > > > > on top of any actual answers and explanations 
> > > > > I happen to give, yet again... 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group 
> > > > > would be different, instead a post of mine on a 
> > > > > line of research for foundations was rejected as 
> > > > > "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure 
> > > > > just this daily nonsense and institutional spam. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am out of here: Usenet is dead. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > *Plonk* 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Julio 
> > > > The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is 
> > > > ...Usenet. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > I agree with this. This is the most advanced relativity gedanken facility in the world. Well beyond every University seminar program. Cyber archeologists will document this one day. I would hate to be Dono when that day comes. 
> > > > -- 
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> > > > and challenge 
> > > > the unchallengeable. 
> > 
> > No.... 
> > 
> > Same for Dono, just another say nothing, be right. 
> > 
> > I carefully fought everybody pretty hard while writing my thesis that 
> > physics has a mathematics. 
> > 
> > This way I earned their respect, including through fear. 
> > 
> > I mean, come on StarMaker, I mean Patty, here it's that 
> > you are just talking about parallel Galilean frames in the 
> > space they are moving, their space contraction due 
> > their alignment has them seeing each other's image, carried 
> > along with them, as much as it is in terms of when the image 
> > starts rolling and for example lensing.
> There is *no place* in the universe where 'mathematics' exist...except 
> in the mind, same place where only 'evil' exist....in the mind.
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.


But, what if you hold your hands together?

If they're together you can't say there's not mathematics, ....

Then look, open your hands, put them back together, nope, no way 
to tell there's not mathematics.

Now, look around and just imagine behind what you see.  
See, easy, no mathematics at all.

Look in front of what you see:  yep, no mathematics at all.

See, everywhere.

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#593652

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-10-17 23:51 -0700
Message-ID<634E4CE7.3994@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#593649
Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> 
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 11:14:15 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> > > > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace,
> > > > > > and other amenities along that line.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my
> > > > > > message through. And, this is my last post to Usenet anyway!
> > > > > > ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote:
> > > > > > > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> [...]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are both overthinking this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, they were both not even wrong!! And *you*
> > > > > > keep adding even more nonsense and confusion
> > > > > > on top of any actual answers and explanations
> > > > > > I happen to give, yet again...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group
> > > > > > would be different, instead a post of mine on a
> > > > > > line of research for foundations was rejected as
> > > > > > "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure
> > > > > > just this daily nonsense and institutional spam.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am out of here: Usenet is dead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Plonk*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Julio
> > > > > The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is
> > > > > ...Usenet.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I agree with this. This is the most advanced relativity gedanken facility in the world. Well beyond every University seminar program. Cyber archeologists will document this one day. I would hate to be Dono when that day comes.
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > and challenge
> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > No....
> > >
> > > Same for Dono, just another say nothing, be right.
> > >
> > > I carefully fought everybody pretty hard while writing my thesis that
> > > physics has a mathematics.
> > >
> > > This way I earned their respect, including through fear.
> > >
> > > I mean, come on StarMaker, I mean Patty, here it's that
> > > you are just talking about parallel Galilean frames in the
> > > space they are moving, their space contraction due
> > > their alignment has them seeing each other's image, carried
> > > along with them, as much as it is in terms of when the image
> > > starts rolling and for example lensing.
> > There is *no place* in the universe where 'mathematics' exist...except
> > in the mind, same place where only 'evil' exist....in the mind.
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> 
> But, what if you hold your hands together?
> 
> If they're together you can't say there's not mathematics, ....
> 
> Then look, open your hands, put them back together, nope, no way
> to tell there's not mathematics.
> 
> Now, look around and just imagine behind what you see.
> See, easy, no mathematics at all.
> 
> Look in front of what you see:  yep, no mathematics at all.
> 
> See, everywhere.

what?

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#593654

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-18 00:18 -0700
Message-ID<48410824-2d14-4c0e-9f56-520a91df7d67n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593652
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 11:51:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Ross A. Finlayson wrote: 
> > 
> > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 11:14:15 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > Ross A. Finlayson wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote: 
> > > > > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > > > > Julio Di Egidio wrote: 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace, 
> > > > > > > and other amenities along that line. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my 
> > > > > > > message through. And, this is my last post to Usenet anyway! 
> > > > > > > ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley 
> > > > > > > > > wrote: 
> > > > > > > > >> [...] 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You are both overthinking this. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > No, they were both not even wrong!! And *you* 
> > > > > > > keep adding even more nonsense and confusion 
> > > > > > > on top of any actual answers and explanations 
> > > > > > > I happen to give, yet again... 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group 
> > > > > > > would be different, instead a post of mine on a 
> > > > > > > line of research for foundations was rejected as 
> > > > > > > "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure 
> > > > > > > just this daily nonsense and institutional spam. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I am out of here: Usenet is dead. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > *Plonk* 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Julio 
> > > > > > The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is 
> > > > > > ...Usenet. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > I agree with this. This is the most advanced relativity gedanken facility in the world. Well beyond every University seminar program. Cyber archeologists will document this one day. I would hate to be Dono when that day comes. 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> > > > > > and challenge 
> > > > > > the unchallengeable. 
> > > > 
> > > > No.... 
> > > > 
> > > > Same for Dono, just another say nothing, be right. 
> > > > 
> > > > I carefully fought everybody pretty hard while writing my thesis that 
> > > > physics has a mathematics. 
> > > > 
> > > > This way I earned their respect, including through fear. 
> > > > 
> > > > I mean, come on StarMaker, I mean Patty, here it's that 
> > > > you are just talking about parallel Galilean frames in the 
> > > > space they are moving, their space contraction due 
> > > > their alignment has them seeing each other's image, carried 
> > > > along with them, as much as it is in terms of when the image 
> > > > starts rolling and for example lensing. 
> > > There is *no place* in the universe where 'mathematics' exist...except 
> > > in the mind, same place where only 'evil' exist....in the mind. 
> > > -- 
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> > > and challenge 
> > > the unchallengeable. 
> > 
> > But, what if you hold your hands together? 
> > 
> > If they're together you can't say there's not mathematics, .... 
> > 
> > Then look, open your hands, put them back together, nope, no way 
> > to tell there's not mathematics. 
> > 
> > Now, look around and just imagine behind what you see. 
> > See, easy, no mathematics at all. 
> > 
> > Look in front of what you see: yep, no mathematics at all. 
> > 
> > See, everywhere.
> what?
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.



One time Julio had just had an epiphany, he had ..., reached a higher plane of 
understanding, of knowing, philosophy-wise, he had ascended a bit.  So I hauled 
up all these truisms that are beyond usual people's capacity for understanding, 
while he could appreciate it.  I hauled up all these truisms while he had just had 
about a formative moment in a developed philosophy, so they were all profound 
then while that was ..., surety in the moment.  The beauty and utter perfection of 
these truths about "the whole universe", "it's enough to make one weep", so from 
what he had found, I put twenty lessons right in his head, and it's just like when you 
drain, all agog and from a complete cathartic satori or epiphany, and I was like 
"that's what you get" and he was like "what it is".

Yeah, one time it would've insulted his intelligence so hard that to not be insulted, 
Julio stopped swearing for a minute, and wiped his nose, and said "yeah I get it".


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#593659

FromJulio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>
Date2022-10-18 02:43 -0700
Message-ID<5a2cb602-584e-49b6-bf6e-8519853ccb79n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593654
On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 09:18:45 UTC+2, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:

> Yeah, one time it would've insulted his intelligence so hard that to not be insulted, 
> Julio stopped swearing for a minute, and wiped his nose, and said "yeah I get it".

You other piece of resident insane cunt gone from crank to
spammer to spamming rotten piece of shit: I call you names
because that is the only thing left to do with you around here!!

ESAD you piece of shit, choke on it!! you and the whole
nazi retarded brigade!  

*Plonk*

Julio

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#593684

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-18 13:49 -0700
Message-ID<85a5c98a-b32b-4668-8445-2e36eb99fb93n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593659
On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 2:43:02 AM UTC-7, ju...@diegidio.name wrote:
> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 09:18:45 UTC+2, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: 
> 
> > Yeah, one time it would've insulted his intelligence so hard that to not be insulted, 
> > Julio stopped swearing for a minute, and wiped his nose, and said "yeah I get it".
> You other piece of resident insane cunt gone from crank to 
> spammer to spamming rotten piece of shit: I call you names 
> because that is the only thing left to do with you around here!! 
> 
> ESAD you piece of shit, choke on it!! you and the whole 
> nazi retarded brigade! 
> 
> *Plonk* 
> 
> Julio


Yeah, I was like "beautiful, no?"  And he was like, "yeah".

Then he dusted himself off, took a deep breath, 
and walked off a better man.

There's not much stopping the swearing though, it's like 
a reverse Tourette's of a sort.

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#593658

FromJulio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>
Date2022-10-18 02:36 -0700
Message-ID<19f2ba6c-e041-4beb-93c1-331a243ee03cn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593639
On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 06:50:14 UTC+2, patdolan wrote:
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Julio Di Egidio wrote: 

> > > I am out of here: Usenet is dead. 
> > > 
> > The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is 
> > ...Usenet. 
> >
> I agree with this. This is the most advanced relativity gedanken
> facility in the world. Well beyond every University seminar program.
> Cyber archeologists will document this one day. I would hate to be
> Dono when that day comes.

Another fucking asshole chimes in... to defend the status quo!
And as if academia was any less of a shithole than Usenet is,
you pieces of retarded hypocritical shit...

Get extinguished already, fucking shameless hopeless assholes!

*Plonk*

Julio

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#593657

FromJulio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>
Date2022-10-18 02:27 -0700
Message-ID<bef746d4-a28d-4ed8-b908-5052134bdcb8n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593634
On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 05:14:22 UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
> Julio Di Egidio wrote: 

> > I am out of here: Usenet is dead. 
> 
> The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is 
> ...Usenet. 

Of course coming from another resident spammer for
years if not decades.  Oh, the irony, you other polluting
piece of retarded shit!

Because that is all that is left on this side of the world
short of killing you: call you retarded cunts and polluters
of all ponds by name while you manage to kill yourself
together with all life and intelligence on this planet.

ESAD you and the whole insane rotten bandwagon!

*Plonk*

Julio

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#593662

From"Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no>
Date2022-10-18 14:05 +0200
Message-ID<vEw3L.899471$MJk2.101182@fx06.ams4>
In reply to#593657
Den 18.10.2022 11:27, skrev Julio Di Egidio:
> 
> *Plonk*
> 
> Julio

<PLONK>

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#593669

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2022-10-18 10:44 -0400
Message-ID<time47$3okls$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593662
On 10/18/2022 8:05 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 18.10.2022 11:27, skrev Julio Di Egidio:
>>
>> *Plonk*
>>
>> Julio
> 
> <PLONK>
> 

Getting plonked by Julio has almost become a badge of honor.

Of course he never actually plonks anyone. While plonking is permanent 
or at least long term, he's often replying to a plonked poster the next day.

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#593671

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-18 08:38 -0700
Message-ID<ae330116-c4e1-44c0-9d2f-d655fd82bb75n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593657
On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 2:27:40 AM UTC-7, ju...@diegidio.name wrote:
> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 05:14:22 UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > I am out of here: Usenet is dead. 
> >
> > The only place in the world left for 'absolute free speech' is 
> > ...Usenet.
> Of course coming from another resident spammer for 
> years if not decades. Oh, the irony, you other polluting 
> piece of retarded shit! 
> 
> Because that is all that is left on this side of the world 
> short of killing you: call you retarded cunts and polluters 
> of all ponds by name while you manage to kill yourself 
> together with all life and intelligence on this planet. 
> 
> ESAD you and the whole insane rotten bandwagon! 
> 
> *Plonk* 
> 
> Julio

I guess you dont actually know what "I am out of here" actually means...

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#593656

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2022-10-18 10:50 +0200
Message-ID<1q00nq2.1lectwj1fif749N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#593596
Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

> For the rubric Tom Roberts is a fucking resident disgrace,
> and other amenities along that line.
> 
> I am quoting from sci.physics.relativity since I doubt they'll let my
> message through.  And, this is my last post to Usenet  anyway!
> ESAD, you fucking monsters, I will just vouch for your extinction.
> 
> On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 09:10:38 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote:
> > On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote: 
> > > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley
> > > wrote:
> > >> [...] 
> > 
> > You are both overthinking this. 
> 
> No, they were both not even wrong!!  And *you*
> keep adding even more nonsense and confusion
> on top of any actual answers and explanations
> I happen to give, yet again...
> 
> Everybody: I thought this as a moderated group
> would be different, instead a post of mine on a
> line of research for foundations was rejected as
> "too speculative", meanwhile we have to endure
> just this daily nonsense and institutional spam.
> 
> I am out of here: Usenet is dead.
> 
> *Plonk*
> 
> Julio

Good of you to reveal your true colours,

Jan

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