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Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

Started byRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
First post2022-05-26 21:17 -0700
Last post2022-06-02 20:58 -0700
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  Do you feel the pass of time? Really?  Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-26 21:17 -0700
    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-26 21:19 -0700
    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really?  Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-26 22:23 -0700
      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-26 23:41 -0700
        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 00:18 -0700
        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-27 13:27 -0700
      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 10:32 -0700
        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 10:33 -0700
          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 12:36 -0700
      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really?  Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-27 14:10 -0700
    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-27 07:08 -0700
      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-27 09:14 -0700
        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 09:40 -0700
          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2022-05-27 19:09 +0200
            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 11:11 -0700
              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 11:26 -0700
                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 13:26 -0700
            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-05-28 14:13 +0000
        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-05-27 12:14 -0500
          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 11:12 -0700
        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-27 12:30 -0700
          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 13:11 -0700
            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-28 07:48 -0700
          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-27 17:11 -0700
            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-27 21:36 -0700
              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 22:07 -0700
                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-28 09:22 -0700
                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-28 09:25 -0700
            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-28 07:16 -0700
              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-28 07:50 -0700
                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-28 08:36 -0700
                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-28 09:12 -0700
                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 09:30 -0700
                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-07 19:19 -0400
                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-07 22:49 -0700
                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-08 11:36 -0400
                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-08 20:39 -0700
                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-09 13:30 -0400
                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-08 21:29 -0700
                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-28 10:24 -0700
                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-28 11:46 -0700
                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 12:34 -0700
                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-28 13:18 -0700
                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-28 18:03 -0700
                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 09:53 -0700
                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-29 12:10 -0700
                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 13:09 -0700
                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-29 16:17 -0700
                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-30 09:00 -0700
                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-30 09:25 -0700
                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-30 09:51 -0700
                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-30 11:19 -0700
                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-30 13:20 -0700
                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-30 14:05 -0700
                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-30 14:40 -0700
                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-30 15:40 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-30 16:58 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-30 20:47 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-31 00:51 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-31 10:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-31 10:24 -0700
                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-31 07:21 -0700
                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-31 10:27 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-31 10:54 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-31 11:10 -0700
                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-31 13:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-31 12:52 -0700
                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-31 13:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-31 14:08 -0700
                                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-05-31 14:31 -0700
                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-29 12:18 -0700
                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-28 23:45 -0700
                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-29 11:42 -0700
                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 12:51 -0700
                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 13:05 -0700
                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 13:22 -0700
                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Aldo <aldo.mayme.11084@cap.edu.mx> - 2022-05-29 19:45 -0700
                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 20:23 -0700
                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Aldo <aldo.mayme.11084@cap.edu.mx> - 2022-05-29 21:50 -0700
                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 09:38 -0700
                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-28 10:35 -0700
                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 11:08 -0700
                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-28 12:52 -0700
                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 15:02 -0700
                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 15:00 -0700
                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 11:14 -0700
                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-28 13:00 -0700
                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 13:46 -0700
                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-28 14:10 -0700
                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 14:49 -0700
                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 09:10 -0700
                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 10:20 -0700
                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 12:42 -0700
                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 14:44 -0700
                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-30 09:15 -0700
                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 10:01 -0700
                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-30 13:17 -0700
                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 13:58 -0700
                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-05-31 00:47 -0700
                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 17:10 -0700
                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Aldo <aldo.mayme.11084@cap.edu.mx> - 2022-05-29 20:03 -0700
                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 21:16 -0700
                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Aldo <aldo.mayme.11084@cap.edu.mx> - 2022-05-29 21:43 -0700
                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 02:29 -0700
                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-05-31 12:06 -0700
                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-31 13:03 -0700
                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-31 13:43 -0700
                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2022-05-31 23:10 +0200
                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 12:10 -0700
                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-02 15:35 -0500
                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 15:55 -0700
                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-02 21:03 -0500
                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-06-02 19:07 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 06:04 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 07:02 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-03 10:05 -0500
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-03 10:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 19:47 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-03 10:43 -0500
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 08:50 -0700
                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 22:43 -0700
                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 07:08 -0700
                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 08:44 -0700
                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 09:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 11:40 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 12:39 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 14:37 -0700
                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-04 07:30 -0700
                                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 07:53 -0700
                                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-04 08:54 -0700
                                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-04 09:14 -0700
                                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 09:29 -0700
                                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-04 10:12 -0700
                                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 11:32 -0700
                                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-04 12:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 14:33 -0700
                                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-04 15:49 -0700
                                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 17:18 -0700
                                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 09:18 -0700
                                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-04 12:25 -0700
                                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-04 13:10 -0700
                                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 14:00 -0700
                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-03 12:08 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 13:06 -0700
                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-01 14:18 -0700
                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-02 07:20 -0700
                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-02 14:55 -0500
                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 21:19 -0700
                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 07:49 -0700
                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 08:08 -0700
                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-03 10:38 -0700
                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-03 10:51 -0500
                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 09:59 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-03 11:59 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 12:55 -0700
                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-04 12:33 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-03 13:01 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 13:47 -0700
                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-03 14:27 -0700
                                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 23:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-04 07:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-04 08:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-04 10:01 -0700
                                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-04 11:17 -0700
                                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-04 12:20 -0700
                                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 12:42 -0700
                                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-04 14:00 -0700
                                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-04 14:19 -0700
                                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 14:37 -0700
                                                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-05 07:27 -0700
                                                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-05 08:46 -0700
                                                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-05 09:04 -0700
                                                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-05 09:39 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-06-05 19:52 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-05 11:30 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-06-05 20:47 +0200
                                                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-08 13:21 -0700
                                                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-08 21:30 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-09 10:57 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-09 12:07 -0700
                                                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-09 14:36 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-09 05:44 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-09 10:38 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-09 22:36 +0200
                                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-04 15:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-06-04 19:25 -0500
                                                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 17:40 -0700
                                                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-06-04 21:00 -0500
                                                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 21:13 -0700
                                                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-05 07:41 -0700
                                                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-05 13:14 -0700
                                                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 12:48 -0700
                                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-05 15:49 -0700
                                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-06-05 20:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-05 23:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-06-06 13:55 -0700
                                                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-06-06 16:53 -0700
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                                                                    Re: Ed Lake's confusions (was: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-07-14 21:19 -0500
                                                                  Re: Ed Lake's confusions (was: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.) RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-16 15:49 -0700
                                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-04 18:36 -0400
                                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 22:32 -0700
                                                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 22:42 -0700
                                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-05 09:47 -0500
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-05 08:19 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-05 09:32 -0700
                                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-05 21:41 +0200
                                                        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-05 13:15 -0700
                                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-03 12:32 -0700
                                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-03 13:24 -0700
                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-05-31 21:35 -0500
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                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 14:58 -0700
                            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 08:32 -0700
                              Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 09:16 -0700
                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 12:03 -0700
                                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-29 12:46 -0700
                                  Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-29 13:14 -0700
                                    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-29 23:05 -0700
                                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 23:42 -0700
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                      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 09:19 -0700
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                Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-29 12:01 -0700
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      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-05-28 17:29 -0700
        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 18:11 -0700
          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 20:18 -0700
            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 20:31 -0700
        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-05-29 09:33 -0700
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        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 09:23 -0700
    Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 09:14 -0700
      Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 09:33 -0700
        Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 09:57 -0700
          Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 10:19 -0700
            Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 10:35 -0700
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      Absolute time Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-01 15:43 +0000
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#585932 — Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-26 21:17 -0700
SubjectDo you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<c1f1edc5-368e-43df-9888-c9f9229fcef1n@googlegroups.com>
Once upon the time, a cretin wrote a paper that had an assertion about time
which was bought by generations of followers who worshiped him:

"Time is what my clock shows", wrote the imbecile. And from that, he 
developed a fairy tail about time and length, which plagiarized a prior paper
from Lorentz, which dismissed the expression of time as non-linear undesired
result of his pursuit of length contraction due to inertial motion.

But actually, I never read about any scientific attempt to define time, in the
following 100 years. This is because time is an auxiliary variable to describe
motion, and only has any value as a relative interval or duration. Not an
absolute mark with physical meaning.

Do the following experiment:

Sit and do nothing, except the mental effort trying to capture the pass of
time. If possible, do it in a quiet room with nothing moving. You can have
a clock, either analog or digital.

Do the following:

I) Mark a timestamp, and just allow things happens. You can move or
   be still.

   Do you feel the pass of time? Check the elapsed timestamp. Did it feel
   real?
   Now try to focus on the pass of time for one hour (set an alarm).
   Once the alarm goes off, what did you experienced? Did you feel the pass
   of time? Really? By the second or by the minute?

    Think about what time was for you in these experiments.

II) Now repeat I) but looking at the clock all the time, sensing (but not counting)
    every second as you observe the clock.

   Once a time duration of the experiment (as measured by your clock), think
   about time and if you felt that it was passing.

   Did the pass of time had ANY MEANING to you?

   Probably not. Then ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK TIME IS.

For some cretins, time is the fourth dimension of the aberration called
spacetime.

According to these cretins, you HAVE BEEN TRAVELING in the fourth dimension, moving but not moving.

Does it make any sense to you? Of course not.

But more than 50,000 cretins made a living with this shit in the last 100 years.

You don't feel an IMBECILE yet? Well, keep thinking until you really start
to be mad about this shit.

Then, when you're mad enough, you become A NORMAL PERSON.

It is worth the effort to BE AWAKE.

Congratulations.

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#585933 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-26 21:19 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<b0f9e41f-2dee-42ac-87ed-c6efc8cc9b53n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585932
Time has different slow rates.

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#585938

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-26 22:23 -0700
Message-ID<62906066.3673@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#585932
Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> Once upon the time, a cretin wrote a paper that had an assertion about time
> which was bought by generations of followers who worshiped him:
> 
> "Time is what my clock shows", wrote the imbecile. And from that, he
> developed a fairy tail about time and length, which plagiarized a prior paper
> from Lorentz, which dismissed the expression of time as non-linear undesired
> result of his pursuit of length contraction due to inertial motion.
> 
> But actually, I never read about any scientific attempt to define time, in the
> following 100 years. This is because time is an auxiliary variable to describe
> motion, and only has any value as a relative interval or duration. Not an
> absolute mark with physical meaning.
> 
> Do the following experiment:
> 
> Sit and do nothing, except the mental effort trying to capture the pass of
> time. If possible, do it in a quiet room with nothing moving. You can have
> a clock, either analog or digital.
> 
> Do the following:
> 
> I) Mark a timestamp, and just allow things happens. You can move or
>    be still.
> 
>    Do you feel the pass of time? Check the elapsed timestamp. Did it feel
>    real?
>    Now try to focus on the pass of time for one hour (set an alarm).
>    Once the alarm goes off, what did you experienced? Did you feel the pass
>    of time? Really? By the second or by the minute?
> 
>     Think about what time was for you in these experiments.
> 
> II) Now repeat I) but looking at the clock all the time, sensing (but not counting)
>     every second as you observe the clock.
> 
>    Once a time duration of the experiment (as measured by your clock), think
>    about time and if you felt that it was passing.
> 
>    Did the pass of time had ANY MEANING to you?
> 
>    Probably not. Then ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK TIME IS.
> 
> For some cretins, time is the fourth dimension of the aberration called
> spacetime.
> 
> According to these cretins, you HAVE BEEN TRAVELING in the fourth dimension, moving but not moving.
> 
> Does it make any sense to you? Of course not.
> 
> But more than 50,000 cretins made a living with this shit in the last 100 years.
> 
> You don't feel an IMBECILE yet? Well, keep thinking until you really start
> to be mad about this shit.
> 
> Then, when you're mad enough, you become A NORMAL PERSON.
> 
> It is worth the effort to BE AWAKE.
> 
> Congratulations.

Time does not move...so how can it pass?



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#585939 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-26 23:41 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<44673145-fb09-41fe-b343-d54b4711201dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585938
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:23:23 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > 
> > Once upon the time, a cretin wrote a paper that had an assertion about time 
> > which was bought by generations of followers who worshiped him: 
> > 
> > "Time is what my clock shows", wrote the imbecile. And from that, he 
> > developed a fairy tail about time and length, which plagiarized a prior paper 
> > from Lorentz, which dismissed the expression of time as non-linear undesired 
> > result of his pursuit of length contraction due to inertial motion. 
> > 
> > But actually, I never read about any scientific attempt to define time, in the 
> > following 100 years. This is because time is an auxiliary variable to describe 
> > motion, and only has any value as a relative interval or duration. Not an 
> > absolute mark with physical meaning. 
> > 
> > Do the following experiment: 
> > 
> > Sit and do nothing, except the mental effort trying to capture the pass of 
> > time. If possible, do it in a quiet room with nothing moving. You can have 
> > a clock, either analog or digital. 
> > 
> > Do the following: 
> > 
> > I) Mark a timestamp, and just allow things happens. You can move or 
> > be still. 
> > 
> > Do you feel the pass of time? Check the elapsed timestamp. Did it feel 
> > real? 
> > Now try to focus on the pass of time for one hour (set an alarm). 
> > Once the alarm goes off, what did you experienced? Did you feel the pass 
> > of time? Really? By the second or by the minute? 
> > 
> > Think about what time was for you in these experiments. 
> > 
> > II) Now repeat I) but looking at the clock all the time, sensing (but not counting) 
> > every second as you observe the clock. 
> > 
> > Once a time duration of the experiment (as measured by your clock), think 
> > about time and if you felt that it was passing. 
> > 
> > Did the pass of time had ANY MEANING to you? 
> > 
> > Probably not. Then ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK TIME IS. 
> > 
> > For some cretins, time is the fourth dimension of the aberration called 
> > spacetime. 
> > 
> > According to these cretins, you HAVE BEEN TRAVELING in the fourth dimension, moving but not moving. 
> > 
> > Does it make any sense to you? Of course not. 
> > 
> > But more than 50,000 cretins made a living with this shit in the last 100 years. 
> > 
> > You don't feel an IMBECILE yet? Well, keep thinking until you really start 
> > to be mad about this shit. 
> > 
> > Then, when you're mad enough, you become A NORMAL PERSON. 
> > 
> > It is worth the effort to BE AWAKE. 
> > 
> > Congratulations.
> Time does not move...so how can it pass? 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

You move through time, even when you don't realize it.

And mathematics models this motion, which has been helpful for centuries to develop a technical tool
to get practical results of such models, like letting you know where you are if you have data about original
position, velocity (3D vector) and time duration since start.

You can make a graph with your motion through time flow, which is separated from position (not the spacetime shit).

You realize that time passed because the surrounding environment changed.

It happens even if you remain sat outdoors, because Earth rotates and light and climate changes. 

Time is not an illusion. You, and everyone else, have an expiration date, and a beginning.

Every living form perceives the flow of time.

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#585940 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-27 00:18 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<21673075-e77d-49c0-946b-9b8d9a1796acn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585939
On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 08:41:53 UTC+2, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:23:23 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Once upon the time, a cretin wrote a paper that had an assertion about time 
> > > which was bought by generations of followers who worshiped him: 
> > > 
> > > "Time is what my clock shows", wrote the imbecile. And from that, he 
> > > developed a fairy tail about time and length, which plagiarized a prior paper 
> > > from Lorentz, which dismissed the expression of time as non-linear undesired 
> > > result of his pursuit of length contraction due to inertial motion. 
> > > 
> > > But actually, I never read about any scientific attempt to define time, in the 
> > > following 100 years. This is because time is an auxiliary variable to describe 
> > > motion, and only has any value as a relative interval or duration. Not an 
> > > absolute mark with physical meaning. 
> > > 
> > > Do the following experiment: 
> > > 
> > > Sit and do nothing, except the mental effort trying to capture the pass of 
> > > time. If possible, do it in a quiet room with nothing moving. You can have 
> > > a clock, either analog or digital. 
> > > 
> > > Do the following: 
> > > 
> > > I) Mark a timestamp, and just allow things happens. You can move or 
> > > be still. 
> > > 
> > > Do you feel the pass of time? Check the elapsed timestamp. Did it feel 
> > > real? 
> > > Now try to focus on the pass of time for one hour (set an alarm). 
> > > Once the alarm goes off, what did you experienced? Did you feel the pass 
> > > of time? Really? By the second or by the minute? 
> > > 
> > > Think about what time was for you in these experiments. 
> > > 
> > > II) Now repeat I) but looking at the clock all the time, sensing (but not counting) 
> > > every second as you observe the clock. 
> > > 
> > > Once a time duration of the experiment (as measured by your clock), think 
> > > about time and if you felt that it was passing. 
> > > 
> > > Did the pass of time had ANY MEANING to you? 
> > > 
> > > Probably not. Then ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK TIME IS. 
> > > 
> > > For some cretins, time is the fourth dimension of the aberration called 
> > > spacetime. 
> > > 
> > > According to these cretins, you HAVE BEEN TRAVELING in the fourth dimension, moving but not moving. 
> > > 
> > > Does it make any sense to you? Of course not. 
> > > 
> > > But more than 50,000 cretins made a living with this shit in the last 100 years. 
> > > 
> > > You don't feel an IMBECILE yet? Well, keep thinking until you really start 
> > > to be mad about this shit. 
> > > 
> > > Then, when you're mad enough, you become A NORMAL PERSON. 
> > > 
> > > It is worth the effort to BE AWAKE. 
> > > 
> > > Congratulations. 
> > Time does not move...so how can it pass? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> > and challenge 
> > the unchallengeable.
> You move through time, even when you don't realize it. 

Time is a coordinate. A virtual abstract. Similiarly to 
geographical latitude/longitude - you feel them when/
because you're trained to. 

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#585975 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-27 13:27 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<6291344C.7CB1@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#585939
Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:23:23 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > Once upon the time, a cretin wrote a paper that had an assertion about time
> > > which was bought by generations of followers who worshiped him:
> > >
> > > "Time is what my clock shows", wrote the imbecile. And from that, he
> > > developed a fairy tail about time and length, which plagiarized a prior paper
> > > from Lorentz, which dismissed the expression of time as non-linear undesired
> > > result of his pursuit of length contraction due to inertial motion.
> > >
> > > But actually, I never read about any scientific attempt to define time, in the
> > > following 100 years. This is because time is an auxiliary variable to describe
> > > motion, and only has any value as a relative interval or duration. Not an
> > > absolute mark with physical meaning.
> > >
> > > Do the following experiment:
> > >
> > > Sit and do nothing, except the mental effort trying to capture the pass of
> > > time. If possible, do it in a quiet room with nothing moving. You can have
> > > a clock, either analog or digital.
> > >
> > > Do the following:
> > >
> > > I) Mark a timestamp, and just allow things happens. You can move or
> > > be still.
> > >
> > > Do you feel the pass of time? Check the elapsed timestamp. Did it feel
> > > real?
> > > Now try to focus on the pass of time for one hour (set an alarm).
> > > Once the alarm goes off, what did you experienced? Did you feel the pass
> > > of time? Really? By the second or by the minute?
> > >
> > > Think about what time was for you in these experiments.
> > >
> > > II) Now repeat I) but looking at the clock all the time, sensing (but not counting)
> > > every second as you observe the clock.
> > >
> > > Once a time duration of the experiment (as measured by your clock), think
> > > about time and if you felt that it was passing.
> > >
> > > Did the pass of time had ANY MEANING to you?
> > >
> > > Probably not. Then ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK TIME IS.
> > >
> > > For some cretins, time is the fourth dimension of the aberration called
> > > spacetime.
> > >
> > > According to these cretins, you HAVE BEEN TRAVELING in the fourth dimension, moving but not moving.
> > >
> > > Does it make any sense to you? Of course not.
> > >
> > > But more than 50,000 cretins made a living with this shit in the last 100 years.
> > >
> > > You don't feel an IMBECILE yet? Well, keep thinking until you really start
> > > to be mad about this shit.
> > >
> > > Then, when you're mad enough, you become A NORMAL PERSON.
> > >
> > > It is worth the effort to BE AWAKE.
> > >
> > > Congratulations.
> > Time does not move...so how can it pass?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> 
> You move through time, even when you don't realize it.
> 
> And mathematics models this motion, which has been helpful for centuries to develop a technical tool
> to get practical results of such models, like letting you know where you are if you have data about original
> position, velocity (3D vector) and time duration since start.
> 
> You can make a graph with your motion through time flow, which is separated from position (not the spacetime shit).
> 
> You realize that time passed because the surrounding environment changed.
> 
> It happens even if you remain sat outdoors, because Earth rotates and light and climate changes.
> 
> Time is not an illusion. You, and everyone else, have an expiration date, and a beginning.
> 
> Every living form perceives the flow of time.


Yeah, I can tell by looking at the gorillas at the zoo how interested
they are in in the flow of time for them...




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#585962 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-27 10:32 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<9c2be89a-f616-4265-b8bc-76d64ce9a692n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585938
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:23:23 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > 
> > Once upon the time, a cretin wrote a paper that had an assertion about time 
> > which was bought by generations of followers who worshiped him: 
> > 
> > "Time is what my clock shows", wrote the imbecile. And from that, he 
> > developed a fairy tail about time and length, which plagiarized a prior paper 
> > from Lorentz, which dismissed the expression of time as non-linear undesired 
> > result of his pursuit of length contraction due to inertial motion. 
> > 
> > But actually, I never read about any scientific attempt to define time, in the 
> > following 100 years. This is because time is an auxiliary variable to describe 
> > motion, and only has any value as a relative interval or duration. Not an 
> > absolute mark with physical meaning. 
> > 
> > Do the following experiment: 
> > 
> > Sit and do nothing, except the mental effort trying to capture the pass of 
> > time. If possible, do it in a quiet room with nothing moving. You can have 
> > a clock, either analog or digital. 
> > 
> > Do the following: 
> > 
> > I) Mark a timestamp, and just allow things happens. You can move or 
> > be still. 
> > 
> > Do you feel the pass of time? Check the elapsed timestamp. Did it feel 
> > real? 
> > Now try to focus on the pass of time for one hour (set an alarm). 
> > Once the alarm goes off, what did you experienced? Did you feel the pass 
> > of time? Really? By the second or by the minute? 
> > 
> > Think about what time was for you in these experiments. 
> > 
> > II) Now repeat I) but looking at the clock all the time, sensing (but not counting) 
> > every second as you observe the clock. 
> > 
> > Once a time duration of the experiment (as measured by your clock), think 
> > about time and if you felt that it was passing. 
> > 
> > Did the pass of time had ANY MEANING to you? 
> > 
> > Probably not. Then ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK TIME IS. 
> > 
> > For some cretins, time is the fourth dimension of the aberration called 
> > spacetime. 
> > 
> > According to these cretins, you HAVE BEEN TRAVELING in the fourth dimension, moving but not moving. 
> > 
> > Does it make any sense to you? Of course not. 
> > 
> > But more than 50,000 cretins made a living with this shit in the last 100 years. 
> > 
> > You don't feel an IMBECILE yet? Well, keep thinking until you really start 
> > to be mad about this shit. 
> > 
> > Then, when you're mad enough, you become A NORMAL PERSON. 
> > 
> > It is worth the effort to BE AWAKE. 
> > 
> > Congratulations.
> Time does not move...so how can it pass? 

But time does move. A clock must have the property it measures...
a clock has time and it has no absolute rest.

Mitchell Raemsch

> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

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#585963 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-27 10:33 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<ce7f5106-64cf-454e-955f-5ea2d4291414n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585962
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 1:32:27 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

Spam reported.
I incite others to do the same.

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#585971 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-27 12:36 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<742a2b4c-b68b-4d19-9279-b08e1e8a0badn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585963
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 10:33:54 AM UTC-7, rotchm wrote:
> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 1:32:27 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> Spam reported. 
> I incite others to do the same.

Can't do better than that crotch?
The measuring device must have the property it measures.
A clock must possess the time it measures. And all clocks are in motion.

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#585976

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-27 14:10 -0700
Message-ID<62913E59.3FEC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#585938
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > Once upon the time, a cretin wrote a paper that had an assertion about time
> > which was bought by generations of followers who worshiped him:
> >
> > "Time is what my clock shows", wrote the imbecile. And from that, he
> > developed a fairy tail about time and length, which plagiarized a prior paper
> > from Lorentz, which dismissed the expression of time as non-linear undesired
> > result of his pursuit of length contraction due to inertial motion.
> >
> > But actually, I never read about any scientific attempt to define time, in the
> > following 100 years. This is because time is an auxiliary variable to describe
> > motion, and only has any value as a relative interval or duration. Not an
> > absolute mark with physical meaning.
> >
> > Do the following experiment:
> >
> > Sit and do nothing, except the mental effort trying to capture the pass of
> > time. If possible, do it in a quiet room with nothing moving. You can have
> > a clock, either analog or digital.
> >
> > Do the following:
> >
> > I) Mark a timestamp, and just allow things happens. You can move or
> >    be still.
> >
> >    Do you feel the pass of time? Check the elapsed timestamp. Did it feel
> >    real?
> >    Now try to focus on the pass of time for one hour (set an alarm).
> >    Once the alarm goes off, what did you experienced? Did you feel the pass
> >    of time? Really? By the second or by the minute?
> >
> >     Think about what time was for you in these experiments.
> >
> > II) Now repeat I) but looking at the clock all the time, sensing (but not counting)
> >     every second as you observe the clock.
> >
> >    Once a time duration of the experiment (as measured by your clock), think
> >    about time and if you felt that it was passing.
> >
> >    Did the pass of time had ANY MEANING to you?
> >
> >    Probably not. Then ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK TIME IS.
> >
> > For some cretins, time is the fourth dimension of the aberration called
> > spacetime.
> >
> > According to these cretins, you HAVE BEEN TRAVELING in the fourth dimension, moving but not moving.
> >
> > Does it make any sense to you? Of course not.
> >
> > But more than 50,000 cretins made a living with this shit in the last 100 years.
> >
> > You don't feel an IMBECILE yet? Well, keep thinking until you really start
> > to be mad about this shit.
> >
> > Then, when you're mad enough, you become A NORMAL PERSON.
> >
> > It is worth the effort to BE AWAKE.
> >
> > Congratulations.
> 
> Time does not move...so how can it pass?

Let me explain what "pass of time" means...

 "Time is what my clock shows"

That means, if somebody tells you
it is half pass seven..
that means your clock
changed numbers from
1-30.

half past seven means
7, 
1234567891011121314..30

the numbers of your clock
changed numbers
when it reached
30
it is pass the time of 7 by 30 minutes.

But only the numbers on the clocked have changed.

Time don't pass or move.

 "Time is what my clock shows"


'half pass seven is what my clock shows'


Time has not passed.
Only the mumbers
have passed from
1-30.


Boy how time flies!


WAIT WAIT. TIME DOESN'T FLY.

THAT'S JUST AN EXPRESSION!

DON'T GET CARRIED AWAY...

sit on a hot stove.








-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#585945 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromEd Lake <detect@outlook.com>
Date2022-05-27 07:08 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<485d0c89-3bfd-431b-aac6-e700a1595720n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585932
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 11:17:42 PM UTC-5, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Once upon the time, a cretin wrote a paper that had an assertion about time 
> which was bought by generations of followers who worshiped him: 
> 
> "Time is what my clock shows", wrote the imbecile. And from that, he 
> developed a fairy tail about time and length, which plagiarized a prior paper 
> from Lorentz, which dismissed the expression of time as non-linear undesired 
> result of his pursuit of length contraction due to inertial motion. 
> 
> But actually, I never read about any scientific attempt to define time, in the 
> following 100 years. This is because time is an auxiliary variable to describe 
> motion, and only has any value as a relative interval or duration. Not an 
> absolute mark with physical meaning. 

Read my paper "What is Time?"  https://vixra.org/pdf/1602.0281v2.pdf
Time is particle spin. Every atom is a tiny clock made from smaller clocks.
The particles spin at a specific rate.  Motion and gravity slow that rate.

Find a location where particles spin at their fastest rate and you have found
a stationary point in empty space.

Ed

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#585948 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromPaparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl>
Date2022-05-27 09:14 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<6cebb3f4-08cb-4050-a563-b8b95c392479n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585945
El viernes, 27 de mayo de 2022 a las 10:08:49 UTC-4, det...@outlook.com escribió:

> Read my paper "What is Time?" https://vixra.org/pdf/1602.0281v2.pdf 
> Time is particle spin. Every atom is a tiny clock made from smaller clocks. 
> The particles spin at a specific rate. Motion and gravity slow that rate. 
> 
> Find a location where particles spin at their fastest rate and you have found 
> a stationary point in empty space. 
> 
> Ed

Nature is what it is. We humans (being a part of Nature) do not have the ability to exactly know how and why Nature does its stuff. We have created "PHYSICAL MODELS" of how WE think Nature works, but none of those models (while quite successful) are (or represent) Nature. 
We do not really know what time it is. Our best current human time operational model is that time is what a clock reads.
In Nature there are no "clocks" and there are no "meters" and also there are no "frames of reference". All of those are a product of our human thoughts and observations.
Newton saw an apple falling to the ground and got F=ma as a model of his observation.
All physical models are a result of human thoughts and observations and there is no total warranty that any of those models is completely correct. We know Newtonian Mechanics is not correct for large masses and speeds. We know General Relativity is not correct for atomic sizes. We know Quantum Mechanics is not correct for large masses, etc, etc.

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#585952 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-27 09:40 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<7561d95e-f03a-4500-8fda-9a2b249b7b80n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585948
On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 18:14:28 UTC+2, Paparios wrote:
> El viernes, 27 de mayo de 2022 a las 10:08:49 UTC-4, det...@outlook.com escribió: 
> 
> > Read my paper "What is Time?" https://vixra.org/pdf/1602.0281v2.pdf 
> > Time is particle spin. Every atom is a tiny clock made from smaller clocks. 
> > The particles spin at a specific rate. Motion and gravity slow that rate. 
> > 
> > Find a location where particles spin at their fastest rate and you have found 
> > a stationary point in empty space. 
> > 
> > Ed
> Nature is what it is. We humans (being a part of Nature) do not have the ability to exactly know how and why Nature does its stuff. We have created "PHYSICAL MODELS" of how WE think Nature works

You're too dumb, of course, to even notice that it doesn't
work; and that (together with the rest of your incompetence)
makes your model worthless. But it's true they're what you
think. Your screams of proofs, evidence and so on are nothing
but wishful thinking combined with plain lies.

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#585954 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromPython <python@python.invalid>
Date2022-05-27 19:09 +0200
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<629105d5$0$2976$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#585952
Maciej Wozniak schwrote:
> ... nothing but wishful thinking combined with plain lies.

This is an adequate characterization of your published posts'
content here, Wozniak. You forgot libels and insults though.



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#585967 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-27 11:11 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<f2105a93-b48e-4308-a860-201374e9a579n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585954
On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 19:09:44 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak schwrote: 
> > ... nothing but wishful thinking combined with plain lies. 
> 
> This is an adequate characterization of your published posts' 


Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
and trying to pretend he knows something.
Tell me, poor stinker, what is your definition of
a "theory" in the terms of Peano arithmetic?
See: if a theorem is going to be a part of a theory,
it has to be formulable in the language of the
theory. Do you get it? Or are you too stupid even for
that, poor stinker?

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#585969 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-27 11:26 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<747c7285-8de3-4e36-b9f1-016c8c3dde58n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585967
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:11:36 PM UTC-4, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again, 
> and trying to pretend he knows something. 
> Tell me, poor stinker, what is your definition of 
> a "theory" in the terms of Peano arithmetic? 
> See: if a theorem is going to be a part of a theory, 
> it has to be formulable in the language of the 
> theory. Do you get it? Or are you too stupid even for 
> that, poor stinker?

You already asked this and is off topic here. Learn some respect.

Spam reported.
I incite others to do the same. 

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#585974 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-27 13:26 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<e21f40da-b390-4c67-908f-a2ee1fb9ec02n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585969
On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 20:26:12 UTC+2, rotchm wrote:
> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:11:36 PM UTC-4, maluw...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again, 
> > and trying to pretend he knows something. 
> > Tell me, poor stinker, what is your definition of 
> > a "theory" in the terms of Peano arithmetic? 
> > See: if a theorem is going to be a part of a theory, 
> > it has to be formulable in the language of the 
> > theory. Do you get it? Or are you too stupid even for 
> > that, poor stinker?
> You already asked this and is off topic here. Learn some respect.

Sorry, poor stinker, you'll get as much respect from me as 
you're offering to others.

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#585997 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromRichard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr>
Date2022-05-28 14:13 +0000
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<EHgKv9O23J0KRIB_F7Fu76Mdf7w@jntp>
In reply to#585954
Le 27/05/2022 à 19:09, Python a écrit :
> Wozniak. You forgot libels and insults though.

Jean-Pierre, please...

A little modesty and good manners...

For which I thank you in anticipation.

R.H. 

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#585956 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2022-05-27 12:14 -0500
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<jfcf8dFg38mU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#585948
On 5/27/2022 11:14 AM, Paparios wrote:
> El viernes, 27 de mayo de 2022 a las 10:08:49 UTC-4, det...@outlook.com escribió:
> 
>> Read my paper "What is Time?" https://vixra.org/pdf/1602.0281v2.pdf
>> Time is particle spin. Every atom is a tiny clock made from smaller clocks.
>> The particles spin at a specific rate. Motion and gravity slow that rate.
>>
>> Find a location where particles spin at their fastest rate and you have found
>> a stationary point in empty space.
>>
>> Ed
> 
> Nature is what it is. We humans (being a part of Nature) do not have the ability to exactly know how and why Nature does its stuff. We have created "PHYSICAL MODELS" of how WE think Nature works, but none of those models (while quite successful) are (or represent) Nature.
> We do not really know what time it is. Our best current human time operational model is that time is what a clock reads.
> In Nature there are no "clocks" and there are no "meters" and also there are no "frames of reference". All of those are a product of our human thoughts and observations.
> Newton saw an apple falling to the ground and got F=ma as a model of his observation.
> All physical models are a result of human thoughts and observations and there is no total warranty that any of those models is completely correct. We know Newtonian Mechanics is not correct for large masses and speeds. We know General Relativity is not correct for atomic sizes. We know Quantum Mechanics is not correct for large masses, etc, etc.

As I wrote earlier, perhaps humans don't have the capacity to understand
how nature works, only small glimpses of the realities that surround us.

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#585968 — Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-27 11:12 -0700
SubjectRe: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Message-ID<67094506-66d7-43cd-9068-d4e1b4e05ff3n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585956
On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 19:14:57 UTC+2, whodat wrote:

> As I wrote earlier, perhaps humans don't have the capacity to understand 
> how nature works, only small glimpses of the realities that surround us.

Or their gedanken delusions.

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