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Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
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Subject Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again.
Date 2022-05-27 12:14 -0500
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On 5/27/2022 11:14 AM, Paparios wrote:
> El viernes, 27 de mayo de 2022 a las 10:08:49 UTC-4, det...@outlook.com escribió:
> 
>> Read my paper "What is Time?" https://vixra.org/pdf/1602.0281v2.pdf
>> Time is particle spin. Every atom is a tiny clock made from smaller clocks.
>> The particles spin at a specific rate. Motion and gravity slow that rate.
>>
>> Find a location where particles spin at their fastest rate and you have found
>> a stationary point in empty space.
>>
>> Ed
> 
> Nature is what it is. We humans (being a part of Nature) do not have the ability to exactly know how and why Nature does its stuff. We have created "PHYSICAL MODELS" of how WE think Nature works, but none of those models (while quite successful) are (or represent) Nature.
> We do not really know what time it is. Our best current human time operational model is that time is what a clock reads.
> In Nature there are no "clocks" and there are no "meters" and also there are no "frames of reference". All of those are a product of our human thoughts and observations.
> Newton saw an apple falling to the ground and got F=ma as a model of his observation.
> All physical models are a result of human thoughts and observations and there is no total warranty that any of those models is completely correct. We know Newtonian Mechanics is not correct for large masses and speeds. We know General Relativity is not correct for atomic sizes. We know Quantum Mechanics is not correct for large masses, etc, etc.

As I wrote earlier, perhaps humans don't have the capacity to understand
how nature works, only small glimpses of the realities that surround us.

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