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| Started by | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2022-04-26 17:44 -0700 |
| Last post | 2022-05-11 15:08 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 109 — 22 participants |
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If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 17:44 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 18:41 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 01:09 -0400
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 22:18 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 22:45 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 03:35 -0400
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 10:13 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 03:15 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 06:34 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 07:29 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 07:54 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 08:44 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 09:19 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 09:59 -0700
Odious kapo Richard Hertz eats even more shit "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 10:55 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 13:32 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 14:41 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 16:12 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 16:41 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 15:22 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 08:38 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 16:44 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 09:59 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 18:06 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 09:44 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 12:45 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Anton Moto <sdqr@tuscbzxl.mc> - 2022-04-29 21:05 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-29 20:10 -0700
Re: yet another nazi pig, JanPB, evacuated: Colin Ohba <owfs@gcftghsf.tk> - 2022-04-30 17:29 +0000
Re: yet another nazi pig, JanPB, evacuated: JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-30 18:40 -0700
Re: yet another nazi pig, JanPB, evacuated: Job Chikamatsu <fkpy@ekyzcfxq.wn> - 2022-05-01 09:44 +0000
Re: yet another nazi pig, JanPB, evacuated: Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-01 17:40 -0700
Re: yet another nazi pig, JanPB, evacuated: JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-05-02 03:04 -0700
Re: yet another nazi pig, JanPB, evacuated: JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-05-02 03:01 -0700
Re: yet another nazi pig, JanPB, evacuated: Luke Kawazu <vnej@pipfjblg.hq> - 2022-05-02 15:28 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 13:17 -0400
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 10:31 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 19:43 -0400
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 17:01 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 12:56 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Henry Sone <oone@neyesehr.ns> - 2022-04-28 20:08 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 14:11 -0700
Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 16:20 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 16:56 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 19:01 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 21:15 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-04-28 23:28 -0500
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 22:51 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-29 04:26 -0400
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-29 07:08 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-29 14:09 +0000
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-29 07:44 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-29 08:21 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz licks nazi boots "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-29 08:30 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 18:11 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-28 17:42 -0400
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 21:50 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Luke Kawazu <vnej@pipfjblg.hq> - 2022-05-02 15:21 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 13:07 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-27 22:08 +0200
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 11:30 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 11:40 -0700
Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 07:49 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-27 21:02 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 08:32 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-28 10:01 -0700
Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-28 15:03 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 22:20 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 06:29 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-27 19:55 -0400
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 01:51 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-04-26 21:13 -0500
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 22:15 -0700
Kapo piece of shit Richard Hertz showcases his ignorance "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 19:45 -0700
Re: Kapo piece of shit Richard Hertz showcases his ignorance Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 22:26 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-27 13:24 +0200
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 05:58 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-04-28 13:07 -0500
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 11:39 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 12:08 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 12:25 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-28 17:55 -0400
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 17:11 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-28 23:11 -0400
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 22:00 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-04-30 14:08 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-04-28 12:13 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 13:02 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 05:51 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 08:03 -0700
Kookfight at the OK Corrall "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 09:18 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-05-05 16:24 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 18:14 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-05-07 13:58 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-05-07 13:59 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-09 11:22 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-05-09 11:30 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-05-09 18:40 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-09 14:44 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-05-09 15:25 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-05-09 22:37 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-05-09 15:24 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-05-09 22:41 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-05-09 20:07 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-05-10 09:58 +0000
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2022-05-10 12:53 +0200
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-10 03:58 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-05-11 14:45 -0700
Re: If SR length contraction is reversible, why time dilation is not? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-11 15:08 -0700
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| From | JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-28 11:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <30f1e60e-7ee4-4d61-b097-0b55de3a37d1n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584247 |
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:29:33 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 10:34:30 AM UTC-3, rotchm wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 1:45:54 AM UTC-4, Richard Hertz wrote: > <snip> > > > Relativity is very confusing > > > > For dumb people, yes it is. > > > Maybe because is a fucking, worthless METAPHYSICS! > > You do not know what the word 'metaphysics' means, nor how to apply it correctly in a sentence. > > You are very confused. You should seek medical help. > > Take a long break from this group and consult. > METAPHYSICS: the branch of philosophy that deals with the first principles of things, including abstract concepts such as being, > knowing, identity, time, and space. > EXAMPLE: "they would regard the question of the initial conditions for the universe as belonging to the realm of metaphysics or religion" > > See, imbecile? Not do difficult to understand. And this is just the first definition of metaphysics that I've found googling it. You missed the phrase "branch of philosophy". Relativity is a branch of physics. The fact that it deals with certain first principles does not make it into philosophy (relativity uses experimental results as the criterion of validity). I suggest you see a doctor, you suffer from a monomania. -- Jan
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-28 11:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0ffb1430-3f2c-4d07-873c-74b73f32d301n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584412 |
On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 20:30:11 UTC+2, JanPB wrote: > Relativity is a branch of physics. The fact that it deals with certain first > principles does not make it into philosophy (relativity uses experimental > results as the criterion of validity). In the meantime in the real world, however, forbidden by your insane Shit TAI and GPS keep measuring t'=t, just like all serious clocks always did.
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-27 07:49 -0700 |
| Subject | Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit |
| Message-ID | <7aa57bdd-7dc9-4eae-93d2-d7962b5e2fccn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584214 |
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:45:54 PM UTC-7, odious kapo Richard Hertz ate some more shit: > I don't confuse shit! You get to eat it, Dick. Every time you open your mouth.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-27 21:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit |
| Message-ID | <626A11B8.48DD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #584252 |
Dono. wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:45:54 PM UTC-7, odious kapo Richard Hertz ate some more shit: > > > I don't confuse shit! > > You get to eat it, Dick. Every time you open your mouth. You have to watch out Dono who you go after... Richard Hertz has a German aggresive mentality (according to eistein's study of german people's mentality). Albert Einstein believed that the Germans will repeat history. If you keep going after Richard Hertz the way you do you might have to suffer the consequencies. You could lose your job. For example, Richard might contact your employer and tell him that you are using your employer's companies computers to harass people online. Your employer will find that very troubling and could be fatal to your employers company. He would fire you on the spot. No second chances. Your employer would consider that...unacceptable. From now on you're on your own. You've been warned. If I see you harassing anyone here after today, ...you're suicidal. Kaput. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-28 08:32 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit |
| Message-ID | <bf6df458-7724-4861-8f3c-595e7ed1353en@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584334 |
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 9:01:43 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > Dono. wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:45:54 PM UTC-7, odious kapo Richard Hertz ate some more shit: > > > > > I don't confuse shit! > > > > You get to eat it, Dick. Every time you open your mouth. > You have to watch out Dono who you go after... > > Richard Hertz has a German aggresive mentality (according to eistein's > study of german people's mentality). > I get the Dick odious kapo (he's Jewish, not German) to swallow shit every time he opens his mouth. This is fun.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-28 10:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit |
| Message-ID | <626AC86B.6444@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #584370 |
Dono. wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 9:01:43 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > Dono. wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:45:54 PM UTC-7, odious kapo Richard Hertz ate some more shit: > > > > > > > I don't confuse shit! > > > > > > You get to eat it, Dick. Every time you open your mouth. > > You have to watch out Dono who you go after... > > > > Richard Hertz has a German aggresive mentality (according to eistein's > > study of german people's mentality). > > > > I get the Dick odious kapo (he's Jewish, not German) to swallow shit every time he opens his mouth. This is fun. Richard is a Kike??? No vey! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-28 15:03 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Odious kapo Dick Hertz eats shit |
| Message-ID | <626B0F17.7D09@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #584370 |
Dono. wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 9:01:43 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > Dono. wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:45:54 PM UTC-7, odious kapo Richard Hertz ate some more shit: > > > > > > > I don't confuse shit! > > > > > > You get to eat it, Dick. Every time you open your mouth. > > You have to watch out Dono who you go after... > > > > Richard Hertz has a German aggresive mentality (according to eistein's > > study of german people's mentality). > > > > I get the Dick odious kapo (he's Jewish, not German) to swallow shit every time he opens his mouth. This is fun. i thought You were a Kike....will the real Kike please stand up? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-26 22:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7cc9b521-679e-488e-8f43-0f4f5e6aa065n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584194 |
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:41:10 PM UTC-3, rotchm wrote: > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:44:32 PM UTC-4, Richard Hertz wrote: > > 110 years of stupid coffee talks, endless stories and imaginary tests ended in NOTHING. > You are either lying or very confused. Many tests have been performed, hence they are not imaginary. Those test had results, hence did not end in nothing. > > - Length contraction is temporal, and ceases if motion stops. > Just as time Dale she seizes when motion stops. > > - Time dilation, instead, is permanent no matter what. > No it is not. You are very confused. > When the clock stops moving, it's rate is the same as the "stationary" clock. Absolutely INCORRECT. Einstein clearly wrote: "TIME IS WHAT MY CLOCK SHOWS". Then, what the clock shows as TIME can't be modified by itself just because the rate of ticks changed. The clock has MEMORY, either being a mechanical or electronic clock. > When one talks about time dilation, be sure you are referring to its rates. > So when the ruler are the clock moves, they are 'contracted'. Once they are no longer moving, they are not 'contracted'. > > You can't shrink biological entities, except in movies. > Maybe you can't, but we can. Don't force your limitations onto others. LIAR! If you shrink a living biological entity, you KILL IT! What are you? A murderer, besides a liar? <snip snip>
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| From | rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-27 06:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7a2cbaf3-d25d-4121-ba94-059314752171n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584211 |
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 1:20:22 AM UTC-4, Richard Hertz wrote: > Absolutely INCORRECT. You are a very confused person and a reality denier. Just look how your life turned out to be! Have you ever wondered why? Maybe it's just because you make very bad decisions because you are a very bad thinker? > Einstein clearly wrote: "TIME IS WHAT MY CLOCK SHOWS". Besides being a bad thinker, you are all so clueless about the meaning of the words you use. Namely, you do not know what the word 'time' means, nor what the word 'clock' means. Again, you are a very confused person. > If you shrink a living biological entity, you KILL IT! No, not necessarily. You are a very confused person. You should seek medical help instead of spending your time in this newsgroup. Or go find another Hobby, like rock collecting or watching paint dry.
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| From | Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-27 19:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <t4cl69$p6g$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #584211 |
On 4/27/2022 1:20 AM, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:41:10 PM UTC-3, rotchm wrote: > >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:44:32 PM UTC-4, Richard Hertz wrote: >>> 110 years of stupid coffee talks, endless stories and imaginary tests ended in NOTHING. >> You are either lying or very confused. Many tests have been performed, hence they are not imaginary. Those test had results, hence did not end in nothing. > >>> - Length contraction is temporal, and ceases if motion stops. >> Just as time Dale she seizes when motion stops. > >>> - Time dilation, instead, is permanent no matter what. >> No it is not. You are very confused. >> When the clock stops moving, it's rate is the same as the "stationary" clock. > > Absolutely INCORRECT. Einstein clearly wrote: "TIME IS WHAT MY CLOCK SHOWS". Then, what the clock shows > as TIME can't be modified by itself just because the rate of ticks changed. The clock has MEMORY, either being a mechanical > or electronic clock. The clock is like an odometer of time instead of distance. Just as two different cars taking two different routes to a destination can have different distances for the route on the odometers, two different travelers can take two different paths through spacetime and arrive at the destination with different ages (time passed on a stopwatch). Conversely, high speed causes one to see the other's length to be contracted and tick rate slowed, but both effects cease when the relative motion ceases. Length contraction/time dilation are equivalent. > >> When one talks about time dilation, be sure you are referring to its rates. >> So when the ruler are the clock moves, they are 'contracted'. Once they are no longer moving, they are not 'contracted'. > >>> You can't shrink biological entities, except in movies. >> Maybe you can't, but we can. Don't force your limitations onto others. > > LIAR! If you shrink a living biological entity, you KILL IT! But at a high speed, the living biological entity is stationary in its own frame, it doesn't experience any shrinkage. Conversely, it sees the rest of the universe as having shrunk. (the ACCELERATION needed to reach such speeds in a reasonable time is a different story. Too much acceleration will kill. At 10 g, a 200lb man experiences a force of 1 ton, for example) > > What are you? A murderer, besides a liar? > > <snip snip>
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-27 01:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <t4a7jv$79s$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #584193 |
Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote: > 110 years of stupid coffee talks, endless stories and imaginary tests ended > in NOTHING. > > - Length contraction is temporal, and ceases if motion stops. > > - Time dilation, instead, is permanent no matter what. > > There you have zillions of thought experiments about twins aging differently, > yet their shrink is transitory. > > Maybe it's because relativity is METAPHYSICS? Real, measurable effects are metaphysics? > > You can't shrink biological entities, except in movies. > But you can get permanent time dilation on inanimate objects like CLOCKS > because, as the cretin wrote in stone (for the ignorant human herd), time > is what your clock shows. > > Remember Einstein's clock? What arrows show, within 12 hours, is TIME. > > And mechanical objects are sensitive to relativity, while biology doesn't give > a flying fuck about relativity. > > But useless eaters believing in relativity perseveres, even one century after. > > I wonder how Darwin theory works on relativists. > > > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-26 21:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jcrn66F2bg7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #584195 |
On 4/26/2022 8:51 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote: >> 110 years of stupid coffee talks, endless stories and imaginary tests ended >> in NOTHING. >> >> - Length contraction is temporal, and ceases if motion stops. >> >> - Time dilation, instead, is permanent no matter what. >> >> There you have zillions of thought experiments about twins aging differently, >> yet their shrink is transitory. >> >> Maybe it's because relativity is METAPHYSICS? > > Real, measurable effects are metaphysics? He knew nothing about it till you mentioned it, and still doesn't understand after reading the definition. Just the facts, no insult intended, regardless of the outcome. >> You can't shrink biological entities, except in movies. >> But you can get permanent time dilation on inanimate objects like CLOCKS >> because, as the cretin wrote in stone (for the ignorant human herd), time >> is what your clock shows. >> >> Remember Einstein's clock? What arrows show, within 12 hours, is TIME. >> >> And mechanical objects are sensitive to relativity, while biology doesn't give >> a flying fuck about relativity. >> >> But useless eaters believing in relativity perseveres, even one century after. >> >> I wonder how Darwin theory works on relativists. >> >> >> > > >
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-26 22:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2529b1cd-fb87-4ef8-814b-c7432511fb64n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584195 |
On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 03:52:03 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: > Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 110 years of stupid coffee talks, endless stories and imaginary tests ended > > in NOTHING. > > > > - Length contraction is temporal, and ceases if motion stops. > > > > - Time dilation, instead, is permanent no matter what. > > > > There you have zillions of thought experiments about twins aging differently, > > yet their shrink is transitory. > > > > Maybe it's because relativity is METAPHYSICS? > Real, measurable effects are metaphysics? Sorry, Odd, your Shit is not about real, measurable effects. It's about "desynchronizing clocks are proper, correct and THE BEST WAY, and we're FORCED, because an insane crazie has postulated so."
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-26 19:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Kapo piece of shit Richard Hertz showcases his ignorance |
| Message-ID | <6cee742e-b16b-4c75-bfac-28cac97d0c1an@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584193 |
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:44:32 PM UTC-7, odious kapo Richard Hertz wrote: > - Time dilation, instead, is permanent no matter what. > Imbecile, It is clear that you are confusing time dilation with total elapsed proper time. A mistake typical to ignoramuses that try (and never succeed) to get the basics. Keep it up, dumbestfuck!
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-26 22:26 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Kapo piece of shit Richard Hertz showcases his ignorance |
| Message-ID | <7b2f475c-899a-4660-98d4-7902eb6588efn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584197 |
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:45:06 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote: > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:44:32 PM UTC-7, odious kapo Richard Hertz wrote: > > > - Time dilation, instead, is permanent no matter what. > > > Imbecile, > > It is clear that you are confusing time dilation with total elapsed proper time. A mistake typical to ignoramuses that try (and never succeed) to get the basics. Keep it up, dumbestfuck! Hi, Adrian! Long time I didn't hear from you. How is Mrs. Garcia? I repeat what I wrote to rotchm: THE CLOCK HAS MEMORY, HENCE THE TIME SHOWN CAN'T BE REVERTED. And I don't confuse anything. Go to complain to your cretin retarded spiritual chief, in any case. He clearly defined TIME as what your clock shows.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2022-04-27 13:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1pr2n05.18ci482hj58fiN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #584193 |
Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote: > 110 years of stupid coffee talks, endless stories and imaginary tests ended > in NOTHING. > > - Length contraction is temporal, and ceases if motion stops. > > - Time dilation, instead, is permanent no matter what. You are confusing coordinates and physical effects. The rod is always at its own same length, the clock always ticks at its own same rate, all in its own rest frame. Jan
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-27 05:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5138c0af-dfc8-4df6-b743-9ff7f5f8b671n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584235 |
On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 13:24:17 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 110 years of stupid coffee talks, endless stories and imaginary tests ended > > in NOTHING. > > > > - Length contraction is temporal, and ceases if motion stops. > > > > - Time dilation, instead, is permanent no matter what. > You are confusing coordinates and physical effects. > > The rod is always at its own same length, > the clock always ticks at its own same rate, In a perfect, gedanken world where everyone is obeying your idiot guru (and his priests); in the real GPS it's 9 192 631 770 and 9 192 631 774.
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2022-04-28 13:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <44SdneTIzthHSvf_nZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #584193 |
On 4/26/22 7:44 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> [...]
["reversible" is the wrong word, but I think I know what
you mean.]
"length contraction" and "time dilation" both go to zero when the
relative velocity between object and observer/frame goes to zero.
"Length contraction" is the difference in length measured by an
observer/frame co-moving with a ruler and the length measured by an
observer/frame relative to which the ruler is moving (along its length).
"Time dilation" is the difference in tick interval of a clock measured
by an observer/frame co-moving with the clock and its tick interval
measured by an observer/frame relative to which the clock is moving.
You are apparently confusing elapsed proper time with "time dilation".
Yes, the elapsed proper time of a clock is always monotonically
increasing and never stops.
Here's a rather loose analogy: in your car, the speedometer
measures a quantity analogous to "time dilation", while
the odometer measures a quantity analogous to elapsed
proper time.
Tom Roberts
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-28 11:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bef9b21f-72ef-4225-9add-105753362df5n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584402 |
On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 20:07:30 UTC+2, tjrob137 wrote: > "Time dilation" is the difference in tick interval of a clock measured > by an observer/frame co-moving with the clock and its tick interval > measured by an observer/frame relative to which the clock is moving. And, as anyone can check at GPS, it doesn't exist. Common sense was warning your idiot guru.
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-28 12:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bcf4df6b-1de6-43a8-8db4-1be56f0d8082n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584402 |
On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:07:30 AM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote: > You are apparently confusing elapsed proper time with "time dilation". > Yes, the elapsed proper time of a clock is always monotonically > increasing and never stops. > I already told the rabid crank exactly this , right at the top of the thread. Not that will make any difference.
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