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| From | DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com> |
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| Subject | Re: energy and mass |
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ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes: > In general relativity, photons should attract each other, but > this effect should be very weak and should hardly be observable. If the photons are travelling at the speed of light (duh) wouldn't time dilation make any effect "over time" go to zero anyway? I.e. it doesn't matter how much photons attract each other if there's no time in which to be affected by it. (I am *not* an expert here)
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