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Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein

From Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math
Subject Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein
Date 2025-04-21 14:34 -0500
Organization Modern Human
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On 4/21/25 2:11 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> On 4/21/2025 9:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/21/25 1:25 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>> On 4/21/2025 8:05 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 4/21/25 1:29 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>>>> On 4/20/2025 9:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  >> Werner Heisenberg said, "We have to remember that what we 
>>>>> observe is not
>>>>>  >> nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning."
>>>>>
>>>>> What we observe - is a claim. It's
>>>>> a text information. It submits our
>>>>> rules of text processing, nature
>>>>> "in itself"  has nothing to do with
>>>>> it and never had.
>>>>> And, yes - a theory teaches us how
>>>>> our observation should look like.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Text information" is nature in itself, Bozo.
>>>
>>>
>>> No it is not. Without a trained by a culture
>>> human mind able to interprete it it's either
>>> a stream of meaningless sounds or a stream
>>> of meaningless characters, Bozo.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "a stream of meaningless sounds" is nature in itself, Bozo.
> 
> But a text isn't that.
> 
> 
> 


Anything that is, is nature in itself, Bozo.

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