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Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-)

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On 4/19/25 1:59 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
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> An Iranian more independent and self-centered news outlet (in Telegram) 
> which does not necessarily obey any demands on them by Iran's 
> government, early on, towards the beginning of the talk disclosed that 
> Araghchi and his team had cancelled the talk minutes into its start, and 
> for about 15 minutes or so were preparing to leave the building (Ommani 
> embassy in Italy) and return to Iran.
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> This news piece was not touched on at the end of the 2nd rounds talks by 
> spokesperson of foreign ministry. No other Iranian sources of news also 
> touched on that, either because they didn't have the information, or 
> they followed ministry's directive in keeping it quiet. No news of it in 
> Western outlets that I could see either.
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In this round of talk, no reporters were allowed in the building. Even 
spokesperson himself wasn't allowed to be there. And I don't think 
anyone among Iran's team texted this out directly to that news agency. 
It'd be absurd to do that. Much more likely, Araghchi himself called up 
other Iran's authorities to ask for permission to abort, and it was 
granted. Then some Iranians in the government itself immediately leaked 
it to that news agency against the wishes of the government.

There's a second route also. Perhaps some Mossad agent among Americans' 
team texted it out to Mossad, and Iran's spies among Mossad (plenty of 
them!) texted it to that news agency and perhaps scores of other ones as 
well, then only the most independent one disclosed it in Telegram. I 
think these two are the only routes that the news could take to come out.

I saw the news piece just minutes after the attempt to abort took place! 
I.e. during those minutes that mission was aborted. This is a bit too 
fast to be normal reaction on either side. I think there's more to it 
than it seems.

How it was handled _after_ 2nd round was over, was of course just 
correct diplomatic behavior preserving both sides' face. Such nitty 
gritties are washed and cleaned off before news to media is given. But 
the fact that somebody, some side, wanted very badly and quickly for it 
to come out, is the strange and interesting part of it :)

Could be that somebody will explain this in the news for a wider 
audience. We'll see.

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          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 19:39 -0500
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            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 16:34 -0500
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                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 23:38 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-26 07:43 +0200
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                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-02 10:08 +0200
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                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 08:58 -0500

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