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Re: local time

From Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: local time
Date 2021-08-02 11:47 -0400
Organization The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989
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On 8/2/2021 11:28 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 10:31:33 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 9:08:35 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 10:45:37 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/2021 7:07 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only time exists is absolute time....however, there is no clock
>>>>>>> time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same amount of
>>>>>>> absolute time in different frames. A clock second in different frame
>>>>>>> will represent a different amount of absolute time. That’s why clocks
>>>>>>> in different frames will accumulate a different amount of clock time
>>>>>>> in different frames.
>>>>>> Stupid Ken, why do you make up garbage assertions like that and pretend
>>>>>> that they are true?
>>>>> Stupid moron Mike, that’s how the GPS operates. Gee you are stupid no
>>>>> wonder souname is Moron_y.
>>>>>
>>>> No, Ken, that is not how the GPS operates. How it operates is fully
>>>> described in its publicly available system documentation.
>>>>
>>>> You have elected to not read any of that documentation, and instead just
>>>> decided to try to guess how it works, using your common sense. Of course,
>>>> guessing how something works rather than reading about how it actually
>>>> works it’s how the GPS operayess not something that someone with good
>>>> common sense would do.
>>>>
>>>   SR
>>> That’s how the GPS operates. They offset the GPS before launch by making
>>> its clock second to have 4,4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation. This
>>> makes the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of
>>> a ground clock second and thus the GPS and the ground clock are in synch
>>> in terms of absolute time.
>>>
>> No, Ken that is not what the offset is for. What it is for is discussed in
>> the documentation. Don’t guess.
> 
> That’s exactly what it’s for. They invented different explanations to avoid in conflict with SR/GR.
> 
You lie, Stupid Ken. Why do you lie?
The explanation is right in the documentation and it explicitly 
references GR as the reason.  There is no mention of any "redefined GPS 
second" anywhere. No such thing exists. There is ONE second used in 
science with an explicit definition, there is no "redefinition" of it.

Why would it just so happen that the GR prediction just happens to match 
your "redefined second" garbage?  Why did the first GPS prototype happen 
to use the standard timebase which didn't work before switching to the 
GR predicted version? Why do you refuse to read the public documentation?

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