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Re: Should we synchronize clocks?

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Am Sonntag000029, 29.03.2026 um 21:36 schrieb Victo Grzeskiewicz:
> Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> 
>> Time is what clocks indicate.
> 
> no, that's a reading of a time stamp

Time isn't the reading of a clock.

That statement (of Einstein) was hilarious nonsense.

Clocks are man-made devices and time should be understood as a 
phenomenon in nature.

And nature is not supposed to care about what humans have created or 
read out.

Clocks are machines, that imitate the natural flow of time internally 
and make that flow measurable.

But the internal parts of a clock are by no means time or something similar.


> 
>> If we synchronize clocks - they're indicating t'=t; that's what clock
>> synchronization means.
> 
> wrong too, you cannot read two clocks same time

We have also a delay, if one clock is further away than the other one.

Now Einstein didn't consider the delay and didn't figure it out. But 
that would have been necessary, because the transit time of the signal 
from the remote clock to the observer follows after the event of reading 
the clock, hence would add to that reading.

So, you would need to measure the delay and subtract that value from 
your own time or add it to the remote reading, if you wanted to 
synchronize clocks.

But Einstein didn't do that. He didn't even mention 'delay' or 'transit 
time' or anything similar.

...


TH

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