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Re: The first postulate is a truism.

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
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Subject	Re: The first postulate is a truism.
Date	2025-06-28 18:22 +0200
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Am Freitag000027, 27.06.2025 um 09:54 schrieb Mikko:

>>> The laws of electromagnetism apply to all IRFs.
>>> Maxwell's equations do not.
>>> Therefore, Maxwell's equations are not laws of physics.
>>>
>>> "AI Overview
>>> Maxwell's Equations in Electromagnetism - GeeksforGeeks
>>> Yes, Maxwell's equations are considered laws of physics. They are a set
>>> of four fundamental equations that describe the behavior of electric and
>>> magnetic fields, and how they are generated and influenced by charges
>>> and currents. These equations are foundational to classical
>>> electromagnetism and are used in various technologies like power
>>> generation, electric motors, and wireless communication."
>>
>> Actually this isn't true, because those four equations didn't stem 
>> from Maxwell, but from Oliver Heaviside.
> 
> It is true. Regardless of the origin, "Maxwell's equations" is the
> Common Language name of that set of equations.
> 
> Heaviside got the equations from Maxwell. Heaviside just identified the
> most important equations among all that Maxwell had presented. In addition
> Heaviside invented vectors and demonstrated that using vectors those (and
> other) equations could be written in a simpler form.

Well, that's what you think.

For me it seems, that Heaviside and Gibbs were 'con-artists' and wanted 
to divert physics from true science.
...


TH

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  Re: The first postulate is a truism. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-06-20 12:06 +0300
    Re: The first postulate is a truism. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-06-20 11:43 +0200
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      Re: The first postulate is a truism. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-06-21 13:19 +0300
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              Re: The first postulate is a truism. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-06-27 10:54 +0300
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                Re: The first postulate is a truism. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-28 18:22 +0200
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                Re: The first postulate is a truism. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-06-29 13:46 +0300
    Re: The first postulate is a truism. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-20 18:59 +0000
    Re: The first postulate is a truism. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-21 01:28 +0000
      Re: The first postulate is a truism. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-06-21 13:22 +0300
        Re: The first postulate is a truism. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-21 21:11 +0000
          Re: The first postulate is a truism. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-06-22 12:45 +0300
        Re: The first postulate is a truism. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-23 21:29 +0000
          Re: The first postulate is a truism. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-06-24 12:45 +0300
    Re: The first postulate is a truism. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-22 13:25 +0200
      Re: The first postulate is a truism. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-06-22 16:47 +0200
      Re: The first postulate is a truism. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-23 03:36 +0000
      Re: The first postulate is a truism. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-23 03:48 +0000
      Re: The first postulate is a truism. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-23 03:54 +0000
      Re: The first postulate is a truism. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-06-23 11:43 +0300
        Re: The first postulate is a truism. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-23 21:16 +0000
          Re: The first postulate is a truism. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-06-24 12:47 +0300
      Re: The first postulate is a truism. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-23 13:32 +0000
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