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Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also.

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also.
Date 2025-06-05 11:36 +0200
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Am Mittwoch000004, 04.06.2025 um 14:50 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> 
>> Am Dienstag000003, 03.06.2025 um 19:44 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden:
>>
>>>>>>> I have actually (carefully!!) 'tested' that particular paper and
>>>>>>> found,
>>>>>>> that it is FULL of errors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The number of errors (plus others issues like violation of formal
>>>>>>> standards, missing references, bad language..) was so large (400+),
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was wilfully mocking the audience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The audience didn't think so.
>>>>>> Au contraire, it was an instant succes,
>>>>>> among those who mattered.
>>>>>> Prestigeous univerisities starten trying to get Einstein
>>>>>> to accept a professorship.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have looked at that paper very carefully and wrote about 428 comments
>>>>> about statements, which were in many cases wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, some insight into yourself.
>>>
>>> Alas, probably not. Thomas Heger has never understood the way commas are
>>> used in English and how it differs from how they are used in German. So
>>> although he is saying (probably correctly) that most of his 428 comments
>>> are wrong, he probably thinks he was saying that many of Einstein's
>>> statements were wrong, which is just his fantasy.
>>
>>
>> I don't think, that most of my comments were wrong, but that some of
>> them could be wrong.
>>
>> Sure: commas in English are used differently from their use in German
>> and I have to admit some errors in this realm.
>>
>> But you certainly don't want to argue with my comma setting errors.
> 
> Why not? You have got nothing better on Einstein, so...
> 
>> This would be simply unfair, because I'm writing in a second language.
> 
> You are capable of misunderstanding Einstein in his own language, so...
> 
>> And I would see you writing in German (with correct spelling and
>> grammar, of course).
>>
>>> Although I have tended to think that he's not quite at the level of
>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen or Maciej Wozniak as a crackpot, I am beginning to
>>> think that he is.
>>
>> All 'dissidents' are called 'nuts' or crackpots'.
>>
>> This is common behavior here and elsewhere.
> 
> Of course not. We certainly recognise true 'dissidents' as such,
> like Andrei Sakharov for example.
> You cannot arrogate the title 'dissident' to yourself.
> 

Sakharov was part of the atomic program of the Soviet Union and had some 
issues with the nomenclatura.

But how about Podklednov?

Or how about Martin Tajmar?

> You must be seen as such by others,
> who think you have something worthwhile to say.
> To achieve that you need to say things that aren't nutty or crackpot.

I'm just a little hobbyist, but have written something (long ago 
already), which was meant to solve an allegedly unsolvable problem.

This was meant as a conncetion between GR and QM:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

I have spent a VERY long time on this topic. But as non-physicist I had 
only limited means and certainly made many errors.

But the idea itself is actually worth to discuss.

But that had never happened. Instead I received less than ten comments 
in 16 years.

So: why is that?

Well, once finished I thought, that was a lot of work, but it was 
somehow too easy!

I mean: how could this solution be regarded as impossible and unknown to 
the myriads of professional physicists?


So I had assumed, that my solution was already known, but kept away from 
the public.

Therefore I wondered into what commonly is called 'Conspiracy theory' 
and found tons of evidence, that the general public gets cheated big 
time and on unbelievable scale.


TH

> 

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  Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-05-27 11:37 +0200
    Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-05-27 15:49 +0000
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      Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-05-29 21:31 +0200
        Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-05-29 21:40 +0000
          Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-05-30 19:31 +0200
            Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-05-30 19:24 +0000
              Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-05-30 22:04 +0200
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                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-05-31 21:01 +0200
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                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-01 12:02 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-01 12:25 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-01 13:43 +0200
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                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-06-17 20:20 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-02 17:58 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-02 19:36 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-03 08:50 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-03 09:40 +0200
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                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-02 20:38 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-03 08:56 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-03 14:30 +0200
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                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:58 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:41 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-04 14:50 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Elick Tulaev <atec@ltvluaav.ru> - 2025-06-04 22:59 +0000
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-05 11:36 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-05 13:53 +0200
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Emory Batsanov <veb@norerooa.ru> - 2025-06-05 21:36 +0000
                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-08 11:01 +0200
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                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:33 +0200
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                Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Baldemar Pokhojaev <evlr@hmao.ru> - 2025-05-31 21:09 +0000
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            Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-05-30 20:45 +0000
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        Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 08:27 -0700
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