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| Subject | Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit. |
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
| Date | 2025-03-30 02:17 -0700 |
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On 03/28/2025 06:52 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 03/28/2025 05:50 PM, rhertz wrote: >> In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in >> 1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta >> decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron). >> Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies, >> rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY >> detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956. >> >> The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower >> than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless, >> like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model >> (1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that >> neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass. >> >> Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the >> JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged >> since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of >> them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for >> equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino >> (< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The >> energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL). >> >> Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at >> the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the >> Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure >> water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the >> Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic >> neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric, >> and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic. >> >> The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the >> emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate >> water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those >> enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this >> 100 years ago). >> >> The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with >> matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect >> ONE NEUTRINO PER YEAR, at the Japanese Super-K is: >> >> ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000 >> >> Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash >> over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande >> (Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day. >> >> How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless >> steel tank, 41.4 meters tall × 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story >> building buried underground). It contains the inner Super-K >> (36-meter-tall × 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure >> water. >> >> Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the >> Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its >> speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side >> by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction >> happens that destroy most of the other PMT. >> >> The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons >> of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume. >> The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact >> with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have >> few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino >> (from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is >> the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output >> of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software >> processing complete the calculations. >> >> One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are >> (allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K. >> >> The most important facts are: >> >> * Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET. >> >> * Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is >> known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different. >> >> * Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate) >> from one type to the other (or scientists allege to). >> >> * The mutations are originated (as they say) due to mechanisms: >> >> **** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed >> neutrino masses. >> >> *** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles >> (Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes. >> >> MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the >> law of conservation of energy is violated. How neutrinos are generated >> IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions >> of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with >> each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence >> of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in >> calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such >> unproven theories like the BB. >> >> I smell a rotten fish around this. >> >> Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than >> happy, and have zero accountability. >> >> HOAX! > > > You forgot the Baikal detector at the other end of > the line of the Batavia-Baikal neutrinophone. > > > Neutrinos are simply whatever is superluminal flux, > when gravity's speed is infinite and light's is not, > and in the nuclear sector with Cerenkov/Brehmsstrahlung. > > Don't you know there are three super-symmetries after > electron physics for muon, hadron (the most popular by far), > and neutrino physics? > > > It is so that many "physicists" today are "weak SR-ians" > and that's their limits and others don't know that nucleon > theory and hadron theory are different, and pretty much > dealing with their force/field as a model of motion of point/space > as "energy" absent "entelechy" and a continuous manifold of > space-time, is just a technician. > > > You need a super-classical model of motion if you're > going to, get anywhere, as it were. > > Wow, it sort of seems like you don't know much about the tetrad of quantities nor that relativity is a very simple theory, then that particle/wave duality and the wave/resonance dichotomy must be more or less that the connection to continuum mechanics is incongruous, to you.
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