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Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.
Date 2025-03-29 23:27 -0700
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> rhertz wrote:
> >
> > In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli  proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
> > 1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
> > decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
> > Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
> > rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
> > detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
> >
> > The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
> > than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
> > like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
> > (1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
> > neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
> >
> > Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
> > JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
> > since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
> > them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
> > equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
> > (< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
> > energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
> >
> > Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at
> > the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the
> > Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure
> > water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the
> > Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic
> > neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric,
> > and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic.
> >
> > The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the
> > emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate
> > water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those
> > enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this
> > 100 years ago).
> >
> > The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with
> > matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect
> > ONE NEUTRINO PER YEAR, at the Japanese Super-K is:
> >
> > ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000
> >
> > Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash
> > over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande
> > (Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day.
> >
> > How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless
> > steel tank, 41.4 meters tall × 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story
> > building buried underground). It contains the inner  Super-K
> > (36-meter-tall × 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure
> > water.
> >
> > Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the
> > Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its
> > speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side
> > by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction
> > happens that destroy most of the other PMT.
> >
> > The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons
> > of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume.
> > The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact
> > with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have
> > few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino
> > (from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is
> > the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output
> > of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software
> > processing complete the calculations.
> >
> > One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are
> > (allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K.
> >
> > The most important facts are:
> >
> > *  Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET.
> >
> > * Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is
> > known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different.
> >
> > * Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate)
> > from one type to the other (or scientists allege to).
> >
> > * The mutations are originated (as they say) due to mechanisms:
> >
> > **** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed
> > neutrino masses.
> >
> > *** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles
> > (Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes.
> >
> > MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
> > law of conservation of energy is violated. How neutrinos are generated
> > IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions
> > of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with
> > each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence
> > of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in
> > calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such
> > unproven theories like the BB.
> >
> > I smell a rotten fish around this.
> >
> > Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
> > happy, and have zero accountability.
> >
> > HOAX!
> 
> Neutrino is not a hoax...
> 
> it's simply..not real.
> 
> What Feynman would say is...guess gone wrong.
> 
> throw against the wall to see if it sticks
> 
> it sticks to cranks.
> 
> retards LOVE neutrinos
> 
> they have a picture of it on their wall
> 
> or in a fish bowl (without water)
> 
> science fiction wanna bees
> 



lets not forget  Wolfgang Pauli is and has always been a crank...he
believes in ESP, etc.


it's very hard to tell the difference between a expert and a crank...


they all end up...cranky.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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