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Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.
Date 2025-02-23 09:24 +0100
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Am Samstag000022, 22.02.2025 um 21:52 schrieb Richard Hachel:
> Le 22/02/2025 à 08:31, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>
>>> That's what the scientists say.
>>> I can't help but think that this is all a bit unclear.
>>>
>>
>> Well, possibly.
> 
> Many things scientists say are not very clear.
> It would not be a major problem in the history of humanity if they 
> agreed to discuss it, and to come back to the less clear points, to 
> doubt them, or even abandon them.
> But they do not want to.
> Maybe artificial intelligence will one day become truly intelligent and 
> truly efficient. Maybe.
> It will then impose the logical concepts that today's physicists and 
> mathematicians do not want to hear. Maybe.
> This will necessarily involve a lot of astonishment.
> I remind you that I managed to rewrite ALL of special relativity with 
> ALL the correct equations, just as I denounced "problems" in the basic 
> concepts of complex numbers taught at school, where things are incorrect 
> and extraordinarily complicated (we don't even know how to clearly 
> explain what i is, and we believe absurdities such as if i²=-1 then 
> i^4=1 since (-a)²(-a)²=a^4).
> For 40 years I have been pointing out, here and there, huge blunders of 
> logic and concept, asking that we review things that seem clear, but are 
> nevertheless false.
> Human arrogance invariably answers me that if all this were false, it 
> would be known.
> It would be known?
> Are we sure?

Possibly you are right with your pessimistic world view, but I'm not 
concerned with that.

My advantage (so to speak) is actually, that I'm not a physicist and 
simply didn't know what physicist think about their social environment 
and what one shall do or don't do.

And ignoring things you don't know is easy.

TH




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