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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms |
| Date | 2025-02-06 08:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <m0j6iiFlj14U9@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am Mittwoch000005, 05.02.2025 um 23:51 schrieb rhertz: ... >> See: >> https://paulba.no/paper/Electrodynamics.pdf >> Read §3 >> Theory of the Transformation of Co-ordinates and >> Times from a Stationary System to another System in >> Uniform Motion of Translation Relatively to the Former >> >> On the first page (page 5) Einstein defines the coordinate systems. >> The "stationary system" K(t,x,y,z) coordinates are Latin letters >> The "moving system" k(τ,ξ,η,ζ) coordinates are Greek letters >> >> So the Galilean transform is: ξ = x - vt Sure, but that wasn't what Einstein wrote. > > NO, innoble animal! ξ is the name of the horizontal axis in the moving > frame k. correct (without the insult, of course). > ξ(x') = x' in the moving frame. I attached a graphic to clarify this > but, with your "dog vision" you missed it. There wasn't a function named ξ in Einstein's text. Because x' has a Latin letter 'x' in it, it was meant as a coordinate belonging to system K. Therefore the equation ξ = x - vt was meant, while x' = x - vt was written. x' should be capable of reflecting a light beam, hence a mirror should be placed there. This would fit to the term 'If we place x' = x - vt...' but not to the equation. That's why it is hard to say, what actually was meant with x'. > x' = x - vt is the well known Galilean transform, along with τ = t' = t. > But that " τ = t' = t " wasn't, what Einstein had in mind. > >> You will _not_ find this anywhere in Einstein's paper. >> >> The x' is a point in the stationary system K, it is NOT >> a coordinate in the moving system k. >> >> So x' = x - vt is a _moving_ point in K. >> And since x' is moving with the speed v, it will be stationary >> relative to k. > > relative to k. No, the point x' MUST be stationary in K !! If it is stationary in k, if would not move in respect to the emitter in the center of k and we had no use for the velocity v. ... TH
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Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-04 21:54 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-05 04:25 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-05 04:39 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-05 09:58 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-05 13:29 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2025-02-05 13:03 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-02-05 14:06 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-05 22:51 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-06 08:27 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-06 19:48 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-06 19:55 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-12 14:20 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-12 18:11 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-19 15:32 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-07 08:06 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-06 08:06 +0100
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