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| From | hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms |
| Date | 2025-02-06 19:55 +0000 |
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 18:48:16 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > Den 05.02.2025 23:51, skrev rhertz: >> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 12:29:56 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >> >>> Den 04.02.2025 22:54, skrev rhertz: >>>> >>>> Now, considering that he started with Galilean transform x' = x-vt >>>> > >>> You can't have read §3 properly, you have only >>> scrutinised the text to find "x' = x − vt", and when you found >>> it, you got an orgasm, shouting: >>> "EINSTEIN USED GALILEAN TRANSFORM TO DERIVE LORENTZ WITHOUT ETHER!!" >> >> NO, innoble animal!. I didn't write that claim. > > You used exactly those words back in 2020, > and as quoted above, you repeated that x' = x - vt > is the Galilean transform in §3. > >>> >>> See: >>> https://paulba.no/paper/Electrodynamics.pdf >>> Read §3 >>> Theory of the Transformation of Co-ordinates and >>> Times from a Stationary System to another System in >>> Uniform Motion of Translation Relatively to the Former > > The paragraph is about the transformation of the coordinates > of an event from one frame of reference to another frame > of reference which is moving relative to the first. > >>> >>> On the first page (page 5) Einstein defines the coordinate systems. >>> The "stationary system" K(x,y,z,t) coordinates are Latin letters >>> The "moving system" k(ξ,η,ζ,τ) coordinates are Greek letters > > So: > > The coordinate transform K-> k is generally: > ξ = ξ(x,y,z,t) > η = η(x,y,z,t) > ζ = ζ(x,y,z,t) > τ = τ(x,y,z,t) > > The coordinate transform k -> K is generally: > x = x(ξ,η,ζ,τ) > y = y(ξ,η,ζ,τ) > z = z(ξ,η,ζ,τ) > t = t(ξ,η,ζ,τ) > > The Galilean transform K-> k is: > ξ = x - vt > η = y > ζ = z > τ = t > > The Galilean transform k -> K is: > x = ξ + vτ > y = η > z = ζ > t = τ > > The Lorentz transform K-> k is: > ξ = (x - vt)/√(1−v²/c²) > η = y > ζ = z > τ = (t - (v/c²)x)/√(1−v²/c²) > > The Lorentz transform k-> K is: > x = (ξ + vτ)/√(1−v²/c²) > y = η > z = ζ > t = (τ + (v/c²)ξ)/√(1−v²/c²) > > >>> >>> So the Galilean transform is: ξ = x - vt >> >> >> NO, innoble animal! ξ is the name of the horizontal axis in the moving >> frame k. > > And x' is a coordinate in k ? :-D > >> ξ(x') = x' in the moving frame. I attached a graphic to clarify this >> but, with your "dog vision" you missed it. > > What kind of transform is ξ(x') = x' ? > > Did you possibly mean: ξ = (x - vt)/√(1−v²/c²) ? > > But at this point we don't know this yet, we only know: ξ = ξ(x,y,z,t) > >> >> x' = x - vt is the well known Galilean transform, along with τ = t' = t. > > So τ is a coordinate in k, but ξ is not a coordinate in k, > because the coordinates in k are (x',η,ζ,τ), right? > > This is fun, isn't it? :-D > > There is only one meaning of x', right? > > https://paulba.no/pdf/Dilbert.pdf As Dono did, you're deviating the attention about the main topic, which can be read in the title of this thread. Using ξ(x') = x' is my way TO ENFORCE that x' is a point on the ξ axis. I also used this way to express ξ(0) = 0, so I could write the length of the "virtual rod r_AB" as ξ(x') - ξ(0), being 0 and x' the points in the frame k where clocks, detectors and the mirror are located. If you insist with formalisms, better make a forensic analysis of your pagan god Einstein, who was pretty good cheating, hacking and taking gullible assholes like you like 100% IDIOTS. In your case, and after more than 30 years behaving as a relativistic sucker, it's noticeable that you are tired of that shit. You think and write like a extremely worn out person, after so much time repeating the same idiocies. Accept it: if you EVER had a bit of wit, you've lost it. Do gardening now, before you become the plant. You haven't written a word about the graphic. Something to say, asshole?
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Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-04 21:54 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-05 04:25 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-05 04:39 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-05 09:58 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-05 13:29 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2025-02-05 13:03 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-02-05 14:06 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-05 22:51 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-06 08:27 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-06 19:48 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-06 19:55 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-12 14:20 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-12 18:11 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-19 15:32 +0000
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-07 08:06 +0100
Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-06 08:06 +0100
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