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Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry
Date 2023-11-19 10:22 +0100
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Am 18.11.2023 um 00:32 schrieb Paul Alsing:
> On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 10:27:04 AM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:50:35 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>
>>> "Euclidean” and “Euclidean,” replacing them with “curved” and “straight.” That will be my first simplification...
>>> We have been told that curved geometry has been used for the last two centuries because it allows us to solve problems we could not solve before. This is a false claim. Any problem that can be solved with curved geometry can be solved with straight geometry, and it can be solved much more quickly and transparently with straight geometry. If problems have seemed to be solved with curved geometry that could not be solved with straight geometry, it is only because those problems were too subtle for mathematicians of the time. They could not solve them with rigorous, elegant proofs, and they needed some room to fudge their way through the proof. Curved geometry was chosen because it gave them this latitude, this room to move. As I will show, curved geometry allowed for numbers to be squashed and stretched, and this allowed for solutions to be hammered into place. By and large, curved geometry came to the fore not for honest reasons, but for dishonest reasons. It has become pandemic 
not because it is better but because it is easier to fake. It has flourished for the same reason legalese has flourished and for the same reason propaganda has flourished
>>> and for the same reason advertising has flourished. It has flourished because it has proved to be a successful con-job. It is an impressive and opaque parlor trick that fools almost everyone. It fills blackboards and makes people rich and famous." Miles Mathis "Why non-Euclidean geometry is a cheat" Miles Mathis "Why Non-Euclidean Geometry is a Cheat"
>
>> Laurence, thank you for yet another brilliant analysis. I shall go to Amazon immediately and get the Miles Mathis tome.
>
> I doubt that any rational person would believe anything that Miles Mathis has to say about science or math.
>
> https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Miles_Mathis
>
> "Mathis is best known for his outlandish and often ridiculous theories. For instance, that π (pi) is actually equal to 4, with the caveat that motion be involved; however, not one single reputable scientist agrees with this far-fetched nonsense. Mathis thinks that standard mathematical derivatives are incorrect — overturning almost all math and science, ever. He has also invented a charge field theory which, like all of his other myriad theories, has yet to pass the scrutiny of a basic peer review.
>

He proposes a 'pi=4 theory', what I regard as wrong.

He apparently had developed a

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything

and called that 'unified field theory'.

But I actually think, that my own is much better.

See here:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing 


(btw: my own conspriracy theories are also better and also more 
numerous. E.g. I had the idea, that 'Jack the Ripper' was actually 
Winston Churchill ;-))
)


TH

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  Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-12 12:18 -0800
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        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 11:31 -0800
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            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 16:56 -0800
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 20:35 -0800
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-11-17 20:44 -0800
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    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 11:28 -0800
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-17 15:32 -0800
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 16:58 -0800
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 09:20 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 10:33 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-18 11:28 -0800
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 18:57 -0800
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 02:36 -0800
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-25 20:20 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-25 21:37 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 07:38 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-26 12:00 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 16:29 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-26 16:52 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 17:05 -0800
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            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Zacarias Marushko <zaso@arhkhhaa.ah> - 2023-11-18 23:50 +0000
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        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 10:26 +0100
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-20 08:05 +0100
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-20 09:25 +0100
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-21 09:37 +0100
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-22 10:59 -0500
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Bret Kabulov <rrkm@kbvvuoaa.vb> - 2023-11-22 23:22 +0000
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-23 08:00 +0100
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 14:13 +0100
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-23 09:29 -0500
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      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-25 20:19 -0800
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        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-11-22 10:14 +0100
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-22 01:56 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-23 07:45 +0100
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-23 09:34 -0500
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-11-23 20:47 +0100
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        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-11-25 13:22 -0800
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          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Owen Valtchikovski <lnso@canhcchw.sk> - 2023-11-26 12:26 +0000
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      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 21:25 -0800
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 11:43 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 15:25 -0800
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-18 21:53 -0800
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-19 02:08 -0500
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