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Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry

Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Date	2023-11-12 16:33 -0800
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Subject	Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry
From	Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>

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On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:18:15 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:50:35 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > "Euclidean” and “Euclidean,” replacing them with “curved” and “straight.” That will be my first simplification... 
> > We have been told that curved geometry has been used for the last two centuries because it allows us to solve problems we could not solve before. This is a false claim. Any problem that can be solved with curved geometry can be solved with straight geometry, and it can be solved much more quickly and transparently with straight geometry. If problems have seemed to be solved with curved geometry that could not be solved with straight geometry, it is only because those problems were too subtle for mathematicians of the time. They could not solve them with rigorous, elegant proofs, and they needed some room to fudge their way through the proof. Curved geometry was chosen because it gave them this latitude, this room to move. As I will show, curved geometry allowed for numbers to be squashed and stretched, and this allowed for solutions to be hammered into place. By and large, curved geometry came to the fore not for honest reasons, but for dishonest reasons. It has become pandemic not because it is better but because it is easier to fake. It has flourished for the same reason legalese has flourished and for the same reason propaganda has flourished 
> > and for the same reason advertising has flourished. It has flourished because it has proved to be a successful con-job. It is an impressive and opaque parlor trick that fools almost everyone. It fills blackboards and makes people rich and famous." Miles Mathis "Why non-Euclidean geometry is a cheat" Miles Mathis "Why Non-Euclidean Geometry is a Cheat"
> Round has its straight radial order... 
> so does a QM interval path...
The idea that a curved path of a physical object can be broken down into infinitesimal straight lines such that it does not involve accelerations and thus can be regarded as uniform linear motion is a pseudo-scientific denial of physics that Einstein promoted.

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Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-11 17:50 -0800
  Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-12 11:02 -0800
  Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-12 12:18 -0800
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-12 16:33 -0800
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-12 17:51 -0800
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-16 18:21 -0800
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 11:31 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-17 11:49 -0800
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 16:56 -0800
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 20:35 -0800
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-11-17 20:44 -0800
  Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-11-17 10:27 -0800
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 11:28 -0800
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-17 15:32 -0800
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-17 16:58 -0800
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 09:20 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 10:33 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-18 11:28 -0800
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 18:57 -0800
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 02:36 -0800
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-25 20:20 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-25 21:37 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 07:38 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-26 12:00 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 16:29 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-26 16:52 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 18:15 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-26 19:22 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 20:54 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 23:45 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 23:40 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-27 02:02 -0500
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 23:43 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Alcadio Mihailovich Baidukov <adda@duldabcl.da> - 2023-11-27 18:03 +0000
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 17:05 -0800
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 18:35 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-18 17:43 -0500
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Zacarias Marushko <zaso@arhkhhaa.ah> - 2023-11-18 23:50 +0000
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-19 10:22 +0100
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 10:26 +0100
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-20 08:05 +0100
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-20 09:25 +0100
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-21 09:37 +0100
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-22 10:59 -0500
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Bret Kabulov <rrkm@kbvvuoaa.vb> - 2023-11-22 23:22 +0000
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-23 08:00 +0100
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 14:13 +0100
                Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-23 09:29 -0500
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-11-21 13:26 +0100
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-25 20:19 -0800
  Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 20:37 -0800
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-18 21:02 -0800
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-22 08:43 +0100
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-11-22 10:14 +0100
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-22 01:56 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-23 07:45 +0100
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-23 09:34 -0500
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-11-23 20:47 +0100
              Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 07:39 -0800
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-18 21:13 -0800
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-11-19 00:28 -0800
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-11-25 13:22 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-25 13:52 -0800
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-25 20:21 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Owen Valtchikovski <lnso@canhcchw.sk> - 2023-11-26 12:26 +0000
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-18 21:15 -0800
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 21:25 -0800
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 11:43 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 15:25 -0800
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-18 21:53 -0800
      Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-19 02:08 -0500
        Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-11-19 00:29 -0800
          Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-11-25 20:22 -0800
            Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Brittany Gudimov <vrmb@odvbiiri.du> - 2023-11-26 13:07 +0000
    Re: Crooked and Straight Geometry Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 02:37 -0800

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