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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Claim that SR has been "refuted" |
| Date | 2023-03-04 19:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k6hhh4Fhtd2U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (10 earlier) <0122c0f2-ce68-4213-ab24-b2bbe4fa3bb1n@googlegroups.com> <ttr05j$choo$1@dont-email.me> <l5ScnVgO2dPPwJ_5nZ2dnZfqlJ9j4p2d@giganews.com> <29a1cd74-0b43-458e-ad0e-f22cb75f7be3n@googlegroups.com> <ttvvr3$111o8$2@dont-email.me> |
On 2023-03-04 17:40:55 +0000, Volney said: > On 3/4/2023 12:26 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >> On Friday, 3 March 2023 at 21:49:35 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote: >>> On 3/2/23 2:15 PM, Volney wrote: >>>> Tom, you previously mentioned that there were only 3 sets of >>>> transformations which could represent spacetime and still be >>>> mathematically consistent. >>> This must be qualified as applying to inertial frames/coordinates, not >>> general spacetimes. >>>> The Galilean transformation, the Lorentz transformation and a third >>>> one. You mentioned how the Galilean transformation was ruled out and >>>> the third one obviously does not describe our universe leaving the >>>> Lorentz transformation as the only possibility. What is the name of >>>> this third one? >>> Note that transformations among inertial frames must form a group, >> >> Because some idiot has assumed and asserted so. > > Janitor, this is a discussion for grownups. You need to go back to the > little kids' table and leave the grownups alone. No hope of that, I fear. > >>> The three groups consistent with transformations among inertial frames are: >>> A. The Galilei group >>> B. The Poincare' group (aka the inhomogeneous Lorentz group) >>> C. The Euclid group (in 4D). >>> >>> (A) is refuted experimentally, as is (C) -- indeed very basic >>> observations about the world refute (C): >> >> And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden by your >> bunch of idiots improper clocks keep measuring >> forbidden by your bunch of idiots improper t'=t >> in forbidden by your bunch of idiots old seconds. > > Not the kiddie table but the pet shop. I hope they accept returns for > retarded parrots. -- athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
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Re: Claim that SR has been "refuted" Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-03-04 22:45 -0800
Re: Claim that SR has been "refuted" Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-03-04 19:38 +0100
Re: Claim that SR has been "refuted" Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-04 12:27 -0500
Re: Claim that SR has been "refuted" "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-03-04 09:35 -0800
Re: Claim that SR has been "refuted" Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-03-04 09:40 -0800
Re: Claim that SR has been "refuted" Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-05 01:22 -0500
Re: Claim that SR has been "refuted" Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-03-04 22:44 -0800
Re: Claim that SR has been "refuted" Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-03-03 13:49 -0600
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Re: Pound-Rebka 1960 paper: "APPARENT WEIGHT OF PHOTONS" Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-02 08:40 -0800
Re: Pound-Rebka 1960 paper: "APPARENT WEIGHT OF PHOTONS" Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-02 08:54 -0800
Re: Pound-Rebka 1960 paper: "APPARENT WEIGHT OF PHOTONS" Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-02 09:00 -0800
Re: Pound-Rebka 1960 paper: "APPARENT WEIGHT OF PHOTONS" Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-02-22 13:07 -0800
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Re: Pound-Rebka 1960 paper: "APPARENT WEIGHT OF PHOTONS" Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-02-24 10:59 -0800
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