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Am 20.05.2022 um 20:36 schrieb Richard Hertz:
> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 3:11:00 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote:
>> On 5/20/2022 9:50 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> The universe itself ROTATES.
>>
>> What are you comparing the universe to. What is your test to make this
>> determination?
>>> Gravity is a not understood consequences of COSMIC ROTATION.
>> Gotta blame gravity on something, but a statement without any
>> demonstrable basis leaves us nowhere. Don't get me wrong, I'd love
>> to be able to agree with you, but it needs something more to make
>> it fit the body of knowledge we already accept, in short, the stuff
>> that actually works.
>>> This poorly understood concept, along with
>>> electrical charges, creates our reality at any level of perception,
>>> but it's barely studied.
>> Its hard to tell how much it is studied but that only means that
>> not very much is being published. The amount that's being published
>> correlates to the amount of success that has been achieved, which
>> clearly is little to none.
>>
>> Have you ever considered the possibility that there are things that
>> are beyond the ability of humans to understand? I'm not suggesting
>> that's so, but we're sure having one hell of a time with several
>> features of nature that are critical to better understanding what's
>> what, and this is a possibility.
>
> Every single book on astronomy, astrophysics or cosmology that I've read present evidence of universal rotation as
> a NATURAL BEHAVIOR, as observed everywhere and for millennials.

I had a certain idea about 16 years ago about how to connect Gr and QM, 
which was based on a relatively simple quaternion equation:

p'= q*p*q^-1

This equation is used in computergraphics to modell rotations with 
quaternions.

This equation looks remotely similar to the bra/ket contruct used in QM, 
while the quaternions could be a good representation for GR.

(Actually I changed later to bi-quaternions.)

The idea is, that matter could be 'relative' and frame dependent, if 
atoms are seen as standing rotation waves.

This concept is totally different than any known theory, but works quite 
well.

So my assumtion was, that the principle of the universe is rotation, 
which occur on all conceivable scales.

At a certain level we call the resulting patterns 'atoms' and on other 
(much larger) scales we call them 'stars'.

As this is a huge fractal structure, which generates certain levels of 
size, we usually assume, these levels are real and the things we see 
only belong to that level.

But the 'relativistic' nature of the patterns and the use of complex 
numbers allow astonishing effects, which we usually cannot see, like 
time reversion and scale changes.

I have also written about about the idea, which nobody wanted to read:


https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing 




TH

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  Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-29 23:19 -0700
    Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-30 15:08 +0000
      Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-30 09:10 -0700
      Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-30 09:31 -0700
        Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-30 16:46 +0000
          Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-30 09:50 -0700
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        Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-19 11:34 -0700
          Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Russell Eaton <deliveredonline@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 03:42 -0700
          Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Russell Eaton <deliveredonline@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 03:53 -0700
            Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-05-20 10:43 -0400
              Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 08:10 -0700
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                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 08:31 -0700
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-05-20 13:17 -0400
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 10:27 -0700
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                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 11:21 -0700
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-05-20 16:18 -0400
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 13:40 -0700
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 14:16 -0700
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 11:23 -0700
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-05-20 23:42 +0200
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                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-01 14:29 -0700
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-02 10:23 +0200
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-02 14:14 +0300
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-02 13:54 +0200
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 05:29 -0700
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-02 17:49 +0200
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 08:53 -0700
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-02 18:30 +0300
                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's 'On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-02 23:05 +0200
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                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 09:05 -0700
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                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-05-28 07:07 +0200
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    Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-30 19:31 +0000
      Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-05-01 09:36 +0200
        Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-05-01 12:16 +0000
          Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-05-01 12:19 +0000
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              Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the elec trodynamics of moving bodies ' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-05-01 18:32 +0000
            Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-05-02 07:54 +0200
              Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-05-02 11:16 +0000
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                Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-05-07 08:50 +0200
    Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-30 23:57 +0200
      Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-30 15:15 -0700
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    Re: Concepts about time in Einstein's ‚On the electrodynamics of moving bodies ' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-30 20:41 +0200
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