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Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner!

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From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner!
Date Thu, 14 Dec 2023 21:09:42 -0800
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Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> On 12/14/2023 2:02 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from????
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of that????
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth
> >>>>>>>>>>> or humans..."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies..
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a
> >>>>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and
> >>>>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee
> >>>>>>>>> turn off the volume..
> >>>>>>>>> and watch what you call
> >>>>>>>>> people on tv.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> After a while you won't know
> >>>>>>>>> what they are...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Did Sagan say all that?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'"
> >>>>>>> --Carl Sagan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself
> >>>>>> everytime he repeats it...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules
> >>>>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬
> >>>>>> cules with a different collective label."  -Carl Sagan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was
> >>>>>> just a ...Rain Forest.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, all noise aside...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> while the rain forest was busy
> >>>>> making a river
> >>>>> to an ocean...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you need fishes
> >>>>> to fill the ocean.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also
> >>>>> make the fishes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The leaves
> >>>>> that fall in the water
> >>>>>     turn into...fishes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    From Leaves to Fishes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Trust the science.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it.
> >>>
> >>> Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't..
> >>>
> >>> If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> That's not what I remember.
> >
> > You mean...'you don't recall.' You don't remember what you never
> > read...i understand that.
> >
> > To be fair, I don't expect you to remember ...everything he wrote, or
> > anything.
> >
> >
> >> He said oceans were first made. In fact the
> >> first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed
> >> inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance
> >> of life.
> >
> > You continue to show you don't remember...anything. ignorance is a
> > bliss, isn't it?
> > You seem to lack A LOT of knowledge of what Carl Sagan said and wrote.
> >
> > First you say: "He said oceans were first made.", but you don't say How.
> >
> > Second you say 'life was formed inside the ocean, then trees evolved
> > later.
> >
> >
> > You lack knowledge on the first part, and the second part you are
> > rembering completely... WRONG!
> >
> > Completely opposite!!
> >
> >
> > Layman book????
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> I don't remember that I said I don't recall. I remember that I said I
> remember.


okay, here are the order of events by Carl Sagan...

'trees formed the primitive atmosphere of earth and the first oceans.' 


should be easy for you to understand as layman as I could put it.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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    Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-09 08:42 -0800
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